Two months ago Guerrero was looked at as a cherrypick fight. Then the haters flip flopped and changed to Floyd is ducking Guerrero. One guy even started a thread saying Guerrero was the most ducked fighter in boxing today lol. Im simply asking when this fight finally gets confirmed how will fans look at Guerrero?
What I've learned through all of the credible boxing source right here. A guy like Guerrero who has played the dark horse his entire career.......being a borderline P4P TYPE FIGHTER should keep fighting.
Why? I'll pay to watch.
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I think a lot of people fear the Alexander fight so much they're prepared to let Floyd have this one.
My position has been consistent, he's not fighting the opponents the public want to see.But the guy we want him to fight hasn't fought anybody in his div worth anything.
And the other guy would need to chop off an arm to make the weight, it would only be for the payday and Floyd would get lil to no credit anyway.
Rob is the natural choice, Floyd in the WW div makes the comp seem weak unless they are fighting eachother
Agree, but I;m not even confident he'll make the Canelo/Trout fight. If he does, he'll take another vacation for a year and a half.
He doesn't fight frequently enough.
Schaefer was just hollerin canelo wasnt ready........
Please go sit down, your hate is too obvious bruh....
This time last year Trouts best win was who david lopez, delvin rodriguez???
Come on man......
Why would he not wanna fight canelo??? or trout???
You actin like they monsters....
NEWSFLASH FLOYD AS BUILT HIMSELF TO BE ABLE TO FIT WHO HE WANTS....
Just enjoy him while he is fightin... same goes for pac and the rest...
yall throw da word duck out like yall warriors or some shat lol
Agree, but I;m not even confident he'll make the Canelo/Trout fight. If he does, he'll take another vacation for a year and a half.
He doesn't fight frequently enough.
Schaefer was just hollerin canelo wasnt ready........
Please go sit down, your hate is too obvious bruh....
This time last year Trouts best win was who david lopez, delvin rodriguez???
Come on man......
Why would he not wanna fight canelo??? or trout???
You actin like they monsters....
NEWSFLASH FLOYD AS BUILT HIMSELF TO BE ABLE TO FIT WHO HE WANTS....
Just enjoy him while he is fightin... same goes for pac and the rest...
yall throw da word duck out like yall warriors or some shat lol
Of course it was due to Chavez's fan base, but since that fight Sergio gained major exposure. That was my point, and you know it. Not only that, but he's a consensus P4P fighter.
The fight sells itself. You're just giving Floyd every excuse to take easy fights.
So at the end of the day, you'll defend whatever Floyd does, and don't care if he's in a risky fight. Ok, cool.
Yes but it Floyds name that sells. I love how just because you think Serg can beat Floyd that makes Floyd scared. I love how you haters think. I just want to see Floyd fight. Serg, Trout, Canelo, whoever I dont care.
of course it is...
Guerrero is the weakest 'WW' champion . Floyd is going to fight him, that's for sure
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just like he fought the other weak WW champion Carlos Baldomir.
But when Cotto,Marg,Pac, Clottey,Pwill once ruled the WW, his b!!tch as$ retired!
So Alexander and Malignaggi are superior to Guerrero?
of course it is...
Guerrero is the weakest 'WW' champion . Floyd is going to fight him, that's for sure
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just like he fought the other weak WW champion Carlos Baldomir.
But when Cotto,Marg,Pac, Clottey,Pwill once ruled the WW, his b!!tch as$ retired!
Floyd/Serg is a huge fight, because Serg did great numbers with Chavez jr., and is regarded as a top 5 P4P fighter. They could sell this fight as P4P vs. P4P.
Didn't I just say Canelo would do double the buys of Guerrero/Alexander?
You just said they need a return on their investment. Sergio said he'd do a 80/20 split, and that's a guaranteed huge money maker.
You obviously just talk out of your ass to make your self sound smart.
Canelo vs Floyd would do huge numbers but Shafer told Jim Lampley on his show they werent ready to make that fight. What's happen since then? A win over Josesito Lopez lmao. And Chavez vs sergio did huge numbers because of Chavez' fanbase. If Sergio was this big star than whys he fighting in Argentina? That Macklin fight had 3500 in attendance and that fight was in NYC.
The point was that Trout and Martinez are bigger than Cotto, i.e. 154lb+ fighters. Cotto couldn't hurt Trout, he was too big and powerful.
Anyway, the point I was making is that I don't believe FMJ would be keen to fight Martinez/Trout purely on a size basis.
You have a point Trout and Serg are bigger than Floyd. But Serg is not a pressure fighter that would push Floyd back against the ropes and make his size a real advantage. Hes a boxer. Hes not even a volume puncher. Hes basically a pot shotter. Trout is more of a volume puncher but Cotto was backing him up the first half of the fight. Cotto was the one forcing the issue.
So of course those guys are bigger but the only way Trout gets Floyd is by beating Canelo in spectacular fashion. If he wins an uneventful desicion I bet Floyd passes on Trout. And it has nothing to do with being scared and everything to do with business.
Like I said, if he fought 2 times per year and always fought his mandatory there would be no issue with this fight.
The problem is if he fights Guerrero, makes $40 million, wins 9 easy rounds and then disappears for another year or so.
If he fights once per year, then I agree, it should be the best fight available which is somebody at 154. If he fights Guerrero and Canelo/Trout this year, then it's all good with me.
Agreed.
And I think that's the plan.
Floyd's mandatory is Trout/Canelo/Lara, depending on the JMW rankings, haven't checked.
Obviously Guerrero is his mandatory at WW, but it's pretty damn obvious why he took this fight.
Don't even say it was for the money. Guerrero doesn't make dollars or sense. Not a money fight, and not a legacy fight.
Like I said, if he fought 2 times per year and always fought his mandatory there would be no issue with this fight.
The problem is if he fights Guerrero, makes $40 million, wins 9 easy rounds and then disappears for another year or so.
If he fights once per year, then I agree, it should be the best fight available which is somebody at 154. If he fights Guerrero and Canelo/Trout this year, then it's all good with me.
You can't cherry pick your mandatory. If Floyd was active this would be a good fight. If he fights Guerrero once this year and hibernates for another year and a half then its a issue.
Last I checked Cotto was always bigger than Floyd. He was bigger than Floyd at 140, 147, and you guess it 154 too. If I remember correctly that natural WW Cotto turned down 6 mil to fight Manny at 148 AFTER THE FLOYD FIGHT. Not to mention he did also fight Trout at 154 as well. Now if you want to say Cotto was shot than fine. But that didnt stop everybody from crowning Trout the second coming afterwards.
The point was that Trout and Martinez are bigger than Cotto, i.e. 154lb+ fighters. Cotto couldn't hurt Trout, he was too big and powerful.
Anyway, the point I was making is that I don't believe FMJ would be keen to fight Martinez/Trout purely on a size basis.
Guerrero is a much better fight than Alexander.
It's still an easy fight.
Cherry pick? Hell no. Who is he supposed to fight?
And if it's Canelo-Trout on the same card with the winner fighting Floyd, how could anyone NOT love that?
How can any of you guys say Guerrero is an easy fight? Stupid ass comment!!
The ghost is gonna fight with blood sweat and heart, ca t under estimate a hungry fighter like Robert. The Ghost never gets respect but he will on May 4th when he takes that '0' from Floyd
Two months ago Guerrero was looked at as a cherrypick fight. Then the haters flip flopped and changed to Floyd is ducking Guerrero. One guy even started a thread saying Guerrero was the most ducked fighter in boxing today lol. Im simply asking when this fight finally gets confirmed how will fans look at Guerrero?
They are similar. Difference is Alexander has shown to be "mentally" weaker and more of a boxer. So people feel Floyd would prefer a fighter that will not pressure as much ..... Floyd fans make me laugh on how they try so hard to make Floyd's next fight be more than it real is.
See below to see who Floyd may be fighting next. Neither of the two possess the "risk" factor that we would expect:
Guerrero fights at WW:
Aydin - lost 2 in a row including to Jesus Karass
Berto - lost 2 of last 3. Was PEDs free against Guerrero
Devon Alexander fights at WW:
Randall Bailey - Can't pull the trigger. Punchers chance fighter.
Maidana - It was 2 fighters who just moved up from 140
last i checked cotto was always bigger than floyd. He was bigger than floyd at 140, 147, and you guess it 154 too. If i remember correctly that natural ww cotto turned down 6 mil to fight manny at 148 after the floyd fight. Not to mention he did also fight trout at 154 as well. Now if you want to say cotto was shot than fine. But that didnt stop everybody from crowning trout the second coming afterwards.
exactly!!!!!!
The point is, they're both cherry picks, but the other cherry pick is boring beyond words.
Also, Floyd set it up that way, so people would just let him have his little Guerrero fight, and hype it up like it's Sweet Pea vs Chavez Sr.
YOU ARE MISSING WHAT HE IS SAYIN LOL... Illmatic is askin if they are cherry pics, then how can people come out with just after the devon tweet from floyd that floyd was duckin GUERRERO???
PERFECTLY LOGICAL QUESTION FROM ILLMATIC... Who cares how you feel about them lol Fact remains that many posts on here were sayin that floyd was duckin Guerrero......
So in the vein of illmatics questioning and in the same vein as the op, how was it a cherry pick, and then a duck, and now back to a lame fight????
Its a decent fight..... You guys have no shame..... When manny was fightin, sergio came out and said he would whoop manny silly basically.....
I saw every excuse, mannys too small, not comfortable @ 154 etc.....
Now you batches are asking for floyd to challenge himself and take a risky fight by fighting the middle weight king.....
You are asking him to fight a reigning champion multiple divisions higher than himself!!!!!!
10 months ago trout wasnt even a factor, until he beat the same guy in cotto in whom floyd beat as well...
now if he fights canelo, people say he doesnt want trout, keep in mind this time last year trout wasnt even in da equation.....
you heauxs keep throwing people at Floyd theres no way he can fight all the people yall askin for!!!!
Its so obvious yall want him to lose.....lol
BUT HE WONT....
IF PAC WAS FIGHTIN GUERRERO LOSS OR NOT, IT WOULD BE A DECENT FIGHT, PLUS HES FLOYDS MANDATORY .....
HES EARNED HIS FIGHT....
TRUTH BE TOLD PAC FIGHTING MARQUEZ WAS REALLY CHERRY PICKIN GOES WRONG.....
JUST LIKE THE 5TH FIGHT IS A WASTE OF TIME......
PAC SIMPLY COULDNT KEEP WINNIN AND LOST TO MARQUEZ WHOM COULDNT BEAT FLOYD RIGHT NOW WITH HIS NEW FOUND STRENGTH .....
WHATS FUNNY IS DA GUY THAT JUST KNOCKED MANNY OUT WOULD BE A CHERRY PICK 4 FLOYD LOL
I don't really believe that. I think he fought Cotto because he was a natural welter, not a true 154lb fighter. Trout/Martinez are bigger, stronger opponents, whereas Canelo was fighting at 147 not long ago.
Last I checked Cotto was always bigger than Floyd. He was bigger than Floyd at 140, 147, and you guess it 154 too. If I remember correctly that natural WW Cotto turned down 6 mil to fight Manny at 148 AFTER THE FLOYD FIGHT. Not to mention he did also fight Trout at 154 as well. Now if you want to say Cotto was shot than fine. But that didnt stop everybody from crowning Trout the second coming afterwards.
I hope you're joking bro. Floyd/Martinez or Floyd/Canleo does double the PPV buys of Floyd/Alexander or Floyd/Guerrero.
...............damn.
So he cherry picked Cotto? A slower, more war torn version of Cotto? Cool.
He has the belt at 154. He's regarded as the #1 fighter at 154, based on rankings. He IS a 154 lb. fighter.
Floyd vs Serg is a big fight because Floyds a superstar. It has nothing to do with Serg. Cotto and Canelo have big fanbases and if networks and sponsers are paying these huge garuntees they need the best possible return on their investment. Its good business. You obviously never ran your own business before.