Which fighter current stands out in your weight class?
Martinez: Currently the boxer who's hitting the hardest is the kazakhstani Golovkin, who's emerging as a rival to be reckoned with. I think in a few years he will be the middleweight king.
Is there a possible showdown?
Martinez: First, I have to fight Murray. Right now I'm not thinking of anyone else. Once that fight is finished, we can talk about Golovkin peacefully.
http://www.viptoday.es/sergio-maravilla-martinez-le-dare-la-revancha-a-chavez-si-cumple-con-mis-condiciones/
golvokin is the wba champ, martin murray is the wba interim champ. why is martinez fighting murray?
Maybe he wants to fight him next? He did just get surgery I'm sure he deserves one fight against a decent fighter. GGG just fought a 154lber...
1) Chavez Jr is a 185 pound middleweight with a granite chin, if he fought GGG, he'd walk through his punches and stop him on the ropes; there's no way Golovkin could out-muscle Chavez or push him against the ropes. Martinez was able to beat Chavez because of his superior footwork, lighting hand-speed, and ability to time his strongest punches.
This is some imaginary Chavez. The real Chavez was 180+ vs Zbik and Rubio, and they took his best no problem. The only guy he walked through is Andy Lee. That'll tell you a lot.
Martinez and his camp sound scared.
Wouldn't be surprised if they retired without ever fighting GGG.
Scared would be refusal to acknowledge the potential/likely opponent
it took him way to long to get to this spot in the sport top p4p fighter all this respect no way he retires anytime soon not a chance he will have to fight ggg and i cant wait
Right now I think that Martínez is better than GGG, he's been proven at elite level and has showed that he's definitely a top 10 P4P fighter.
GGG on the other hand still has a long way to go. People were completely overrating him after his win against Proksa (a good win nevertheless) but he still is not as experienced as Martínez and still has to prove that he can fight at elite level.
Some guys here are saying that Martínez didn't look very good vs Barker for example, but that's life, sometimes you're not going to look good. GGG didn't look good against shot Ouma, and he showed some defensive flaws against Rosado (a 154 pounder)
IMO right now Martínez KOs GGG by taking advantage of his great footwork, more experience and the defensive flaws of GGG (especially his lack of head movement)
..........and if they won't sign? Tell sergio that GGG IS a title holder at 160, ts one of those ABC titles hahaha!!!! Why is Sergio resigning to fight Junior again? Has Junior learned how to jab yet? You saw Sergio on the deck when he steps up even Junior caught him. I think Sergio vs GGG is viable match except GGG will have to chase him all over the ring! However the souhpaw might give him trouble and maybe a fight will break out at about the half way point! Ray.
Okay. So just from reading your first sentence....... What's to stop me from saying Martinrz got rocked by a Mediocre opponent in JCC Jr? If he gets rocked by JCC, I can say GGG has more power and he'll knock him out.
Sturm gets so much crap for his opposition... Yet Two of Martinez past few fights have been against Macklin and Murray, two guys Sturm fought recently as well! So you wanna talk about resume....... Yet Martinez hasn't exactly been lining up fights with The GGGs, Pirogs of the division..
GGG hasn't done anything to earn a Martinez shot, resume wise.....but Martin Murray has? Macklin too? You have no idea what you're talking About, sorry.
Your logic: brb beat Jorge Navarro.... Earn title shot against Sergio Martinez...
Beat Proksa, Ouma and Rosado.......step your résumé up and then we'll talk about even CONSIDERING you.
Okay bro.
1) Chavez Jr is a 185 pound middleweight with a granite chin, if he fought GGG, he'd walk through his punches and stop him on the ropes; there's no way Golovkin could out-muscle Chavez or push him against the ropes. Martinez was able to beat Chavez because of his superior footwork, lighting hand-speed, and ability to time his strongest punches.
2) When have I or anyone else criticized Sturm's opposition? He only get's criticized for ducking GGG and the lineal champions of his era. His recent opposition has probably been the best in the division outside of Martinez: Macklin, Murray, Zbik, Geale, Soliman. The biggest problem with that record is that he came out of those fights with only 2 wins (one a SD robbery), a draw and 2 other losses...
3) Martinez is fighting Murray (an undefeated top 10 middleweight with a draw against Murray in Germany) mostly because it's his return fight in Argentina after 16 years and the Argentines hate the Brits so it's a fight that will definitely sell. Further, Martinez has nothing to lose against Murray, if Sergio were to fight GGG instead, there's a chance he might get stripped of his WBC title (again) for trying to unify with Golovkin.
If GGG can get a few more fights on HBO against quality oposition and maybe unify a title, then a fight with Martinez can become more profitable and thus the chances of a unification would become more possible.
I also don't give GGG any accolades for beating Rosado or any other JMW, he needs to fight guys like Geale, Pirog, Macklin, Rubio, etc.
Whatever about Sergio, comparing 3G to Chavez Jr is just silly. Golovkin is an excellent boxer, an Olympic Silver and World Gold medalist, not a plodder who never even had an amateur career. His footwork is top notch and it's not often such a technically solid fighter comes along with such brutal power.
I fully acknowledge that Sergio is a different proposition entirely however and Golovkin's leaky defence would be a major factor in the fight. He's shown a good chin to date though, and I find it hard to imagine him not giving a very good account of himself, even against a truly elite operator like Martinez.
Respect to Martinez for actually acknowledging Golovkin, but people would still make it look like he is ducking him no matter what. I hope after the Murray and if the chavez rematch doesnt happen then the GGG fight can happen, sadly it wouldnt IMO. and even if it does then it would be an easy UD win for Martinez.
All I have to say to people crapping on Chavez, let 3G get in the ring with that cruiserweight "bum" and see what happens. I don't care what sparring partners have to say because 3G's punches aren't going to be knocking him out. When 3G gets pinned against the ropes and has that 185 pound dude punching his guts out, people will see why there are weight classes.
Beating up on career LMW's and fighting cruiserweights are two totally different ballgames.
My main argument is that Golovkin's performances against mediocre opposition does not reflect how he would do against Martinez--if anything it shows that he's relatively untested at the elite level when compared to Martinez. Therefore, if you argue that because he's KO'ing bums he'll stop Martinez, I can also say that those same performances reflect flaws (poor if not untested stamina in the late rounds, little to no head movement, etc.) in GGG that a fighter of Sergio's quality can surely exploit.
Don't get me wrong though, I'd love to see this fight. Hopefully it happens by late 2013 or early 2014 and hopefully by then GGG will have a few decent names on his resume.
Okay. So just from reading your first sentence....... What's to stop me from saying Martinrz got rocked by a Mediocre opponent in JCC Jr? If he gets rocked by JCC, I can say GGG has more power and he'll knock him out.
Sturm gets so much crap for his opposition... Yet Two of Martinez past few fights have been against Macklin and Murray, two guys Sturm fought recently as well! So you wanna talk about resume....... Yet Martinez hasn't exactly been lining up fights with The GGGs, Pirogs of the division..
GGG hasn't done anything to earn a Martinez shot, resume wise.....but Martin Murray has? Macklin too? You have no idea what you're talking About, sorry.
Your logic: brb beat Jorge Navarro.... Earn title shot against Sergio Martinez...
Beat Proksa, Ouma and Rosado.......step your résumé up and then we'll talk about even CONSIDERING you.
Okay bro.
I agree wit everything Natas posted In this thread. Some of you are just being plain silly....comparing Chavez Jr to GGG? HA. as he put it, JCC Jr is nothing more then a mediocre boxer with a big name/following.
The MW king himself said that GGG is legit. what more do you keyboard warriors want? lol. The good thing is nothing you guys say matters......only time and results will tell, and in my opinion GGG is going to be a destructive force to be reckoned with, just wait and see.