Juan according to others is now a legit ww so lets get the 2 best ww's in the world in the ring for May4th..would bring in record numbers and crown the winner the ring champion....
im sure you only care about action packed fights which most of the time means there is a lack of skils with those fighters but hey some people like action and some actually care about boxing
It takes more than 2 skilled fighters ... that is my point. Floyd and Marquez are a bad match up. Most TRUE boxing fans would realize this from a mile away. Unfortunately, for some, if we discuss about their fighter, nothing he does can be wrong.
I admit when fighters I like chose a questionable opponent. Some should do the same.
Even some Floyd fans are in agreement with me. So I can't believe that they are Floyd haters. Right?
You can have 2 very skilled opponents make it a great fight but one needs to check ALL the variables. Man, its not like we didn't see them fight before. There was nothing great about the first one so how on earth can some actually defend a second match up?
Floyd weighed 158 during the longest layoff of his career. This was with a shirt, shorts, cap and shoes on. If floyd rehydrates to 160 he would be able to come in at 154 for a jmw fight after a training camp.....but he doesn't.
But he is ok I fight ginger at 154 when ginger wil rehydrate to 170
So again I ask why wont he fight Martinez at 154?
So how in the hell does your silly a$$ know he hydrated to 160+? Were you in the locker room? Once again *******, he didn't add on 10lbs overnight.
Well since Floyd refuses to weigh himself we will never know
ahha OMG you idiots are fooken amazing
how the hell do you know this ???
are you there in the locker room before he walks to the ring to weigh him?
how many of these boxers arent in top shape
look at martinez
look at pac
ook at JMM
all are tip top shape
look at broner Frauds clone
he is top shape and still rehydrates 10 plus pounds
So how in the hell does your silly a$$ know he hydrated to 160+? Were you in the locker room? Once again *******, he didn't add on 10lbs overnight.
ahha OMG you idiots are fooken amazing
how the hell do you know this ???
are you there in the locker room before he walks to the ring to weigh him?
how many of these boxers arent in top shape
look at martinez
look at pac
ook at JMM
all are tip top shape
look at broner Frauds clone
he is top shape and still rehydrates 10 plus pounds
Floyd weighed 158 during the longest layoff of his career. This was with a shirt, shorts, cap and shoes on. If floyd rehydrates to 160 he would be able to come in at 154 for a jmw fight after a training camp.....but he doesn't.
It looks no different than the first one. Mayweather by wide UD. Why do we need this again? He can fight 2-6 ranked WW and get the RING title, as messed as that is.
outcome wont be any different than the 1st fight in trms of fmjs domination. only this time I see him koing jmm
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that post reminds me of my inlaws man
they cant appreciate skill
for them if its not rios vs alvarado then its boring and they dont
know what boxing is, i got tired of arguing with them so i just agree to shut them up
Makes no sense , if you appreciate the skills involved when you have 2 elite skilled fighters then its not boring , this was supposed to be the new Juan , they say Floyd beat the old Juan , well lets see do it again , and Bradley has got to be in the mix because he holds a WT is unbeaten and beat Manny who was supposed to beat Floyd and Floyd is a WW , you go on about challenges yet expect no other elite fighter to make the same level of challenges relative to weight and ranking .
Thats the thing , your not consistent ! you have Floyd rules and then you have rules for every body else , you dont pay enough attention to the now and the climate that the boxing now is in ,, its not like the old days which will never be again , you sit back going on about legacy when he is still boxing , thats really a subject for debate after the fact because who knows how it will play out .
Who is your favorite elite Star status fighter , who ? and I will show you a list of challenges he DID NOT take , thats boxing today , unheard of Money , corporate business , internet , boxing of old is long gone they had to take certain fights because of the money , today they dont have to so the lawyers and public relation advisers are do more match making than fighters and trainers .
I dont judge guys on what they could have been , or should have fought , I just them on what I see them DO under what conditions .
I stand up for Floyd because you guys DONT apply the same criteria to your own favorite fighters .
im sure you only care about action packed fights which most of the time means there is a lack of skils with those fighters but hey some people like action and some actually care about boxing
that post reminds me of my inlaws man
they cant appreciate skill
for them if its not rios vs alvarado then its boring and they dont
know what boxing is, i got tired of arguing with them so i just agree to shut them up
I'm sure you like Floyd vs Baldomir too but not many did!
If you knew it would be like Floyd vs Marquez I would you be excited?
Both fighters do better when the opponent attacks. Neither will be in a hurry to do so. So it goes against they style and against what brings the best out of them. So stylistically it would not be what you said. It would be the complete opposite with an occasional moment here and there ....
im sure you only care about action packed fights which most of the time means there is a lack of skils with those fighters but hey some people like action and some actually care about boxing
Floyd is not obligated to fight the Middleweight champion man,get real,if he does it cool but no way in hell can this be a duck..you must really think Floyd is great to even bring this up,lol
I do think Floyd is great larry and im not afraid to admit that. I have always said that I dont like him for the fact that he runs away from his biggest challenges. yeah sergio is the MW lineal champ which is just one weight class above where Floyd went up in his last fight to challenge a past prime Cotto so Ill ask you this larry
Why cant Floyd Fight Martinez at 154 (same weight as his last fight)? If sergio says he can make it then make the fight happen, no excuse of bob arum, sergio stated he would take 30 for him 70 for Floyd. Why not
Ill tell you why cause FLoyd runs from the real challenges in life. He has great skill no doubt but he is all talk. If he were to take on Sergio and lose by KO or points oh well its boxing you cant win them all but fuk it he tried it and fully tested himself
but if he were to win and I think he has a good chance because he is very skilled and very smart in the ring OMG! that would seal his legacy but he isnt interested in that and neither are you but you call yourself a fan of the sport and of his?
It wasn't a great fight the first, theres little to NO interest now! Floyd fights Robert who should be a very good tune up!! Then he fights Canelo at 154!
Thats how it stacks up! I don't think that Robert deserves a shot at 147 because he's only bin there about 4 hours but he will be in condition and he will come to win! Canelo has been sitting there for over a year and its time for Floyd to defend and its time to see if the kid could come to fight! Its ALL on Floyd, if the kid losses, big deal he has alot of career left if Floyd losses there goes his "glorified" unblemished record!
Personally if Floyd looses and fights his ass off as Leonard did in the first Duran fight it will mean more to me than his prior bouts. I think if Floyd comes to fight and works to break down his opponents and works in some pressure methods along with his style he can defeat these guys in front of him. If he decides to fight Juan and any other "soon to be senior citizen" then I'll go back to ignoring him. He's at his end, its time to fight! Ray.
its funny how people talk about canelo like he has done something yet **** on guerrero when guerrero has arguably done more in the ww division in a year than canelo has done at jrmw in a couple of years
He obviously is doing something right that every fighter wants to fight him and you want him to face a 160lber at 154 (even though he hasnt fought at 154 in 5 years because its obvious no one at 147 or 154 can beat him. Yup Floyd is that good. In boxing ALL ROADS LEAD TO FLOYD MAYWEATHER.
Why are you coming at me with that kindergarten mentality?
Point out where I said he wasnt any good??
go ahead ill wait.....
Oh wait you cant because I know he is good I have never said he isnt.
So what If martinez hasnt fought there in 5 years, fact is Martinez can make the weight, called out mayweather at that weight and floyd went running to fight a 140lber at 147 because he beat andre freaking berto really?
Everyone wants to fight floyd because
1. he is good
2. he is the cash cow
but floyd is a runny cherry picker.
I dont understand how you call yourself a boxing fan and a fan of Floyd and yet you arent on board to see him test his skills to the max.
but lil az JMM and Robert Guerrerro call out floyd and he comes running talking about how "they called me out"
well guess what Floyd you have Martinez who has called you out for years
and all of a sudden you dont hear nothing plus sergio isnt promoted by TR so there shouldnt be any issues
if it looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a Mayweather
Top Rank vs. Golden Boy. Floyd's ducking.
In all seriousness, this is actually a legit option for Mayweather. Which tells you how bad the welterweight division is. I'd rather see Mayweather-Marquez 2 than Mayweather vs. Alexander or Malignaggi or Kell Brook or anyone else besides Bradley.
your buggin.why would anyone wanna see a fight they already seen over fights they didnt'?marquez did not get taller or longer so whats gonna change
No matter what the public think, Floyd is scared ****less of Marquez now, cause a blown up out of shape marquez was still able to lay some hands on him the first bout now this new and improved one has KO power.
He wants none of marquez.
really ignorant post, even for you
Yes, I would like that fight. Mayweather decides who he will fight and there is nothing we on boxing scene can do about that except to hope you get the fight you want. 9 chances out of 10 he will fight Guerrero on May 4th although it's not official yet.
It wasn't a great fight the first, theres little to NO interest now! Floyd fights Robert who should be a very good tune up!! Then he fights Canelo at 154!
Thats how it stacks up! I don't think that Robert deserves a shot at 147 because he's only bin there about 4 hours but he will be in condition and he will come to win! Canelo has been sitting there for over a year and its time for Floyd to defend and its time to see if the kid could come to fight! Its ALL on Floyd, if the kid losses, big deal he has alot of career left if Floyd losses there goes his "glorified" unblemished record!
Personally if Floyd looses and fights his ass off as Leonard did in the first Duran fight it will mean more to me than his prior bouts. I think if Floyd comes to fight and works to break down his opponents and works in some pressure methods along with his style he can defeat these guys in front of him. If he decides to fight Juan and any other "soon to be senior citizen" then I'll go back to ignoring him. He's at his end, its time to fight! Ray.
Its not a snooze fight to a real boxing fan its technical brilliance , any fool can land a KO Butterbean was great at it , the skills Floyd and Juan have is out of this world , appreciate the science of boxing occasionally and your eyes might not be so biased , this sport is not called the sweet science for nothing .
I'm sure you like Floyd vs Baldomir too but not many did!
If you knew it would be like Floyd vs Marquez I would you be excited?
Both fighters do better when the opponent attacks. Neither will be in a hurry to do so. So it goes against they style and against what brings the best out of them. So stylistically it would not be what you said. It would be the complete opposite with an occasional moment here and there ....
Floyd is not obligated to fight the Middleweight champion man,get real,if he does it cool but no way in hell can this be a duck..you must really think Floyd is great to even bring this up,lol
middleweight champion???!!! hahahaha, he wouldnt even fight the welterweight champion!!! had no problem fighting the lightweight champion tho ey?!!