Garcia had a broken nose... Ortiz jaw was shattered, his mouth couldnt even shut, blood pouring out and people called him a b**ch. This guy Garcia was handily winning but he quit over a broken nose... this is boxing, this guy aint no warrior. If anyone hated on Ortiz, they better be hating on Garcia... this guy aint no warrior
I never knew 147 was a catchweight
It was a 146 CW. I'm always amazed how many catchweight busters are unfamiliar with this fact. Not saying you're one of them, no idea, just an interesting observation.
http://******.craveonline.com/blog/126305-breaking-news-berto-ortiz-reach-agreement
Berto, the WBC welterweight titleholder, and Ortiz have agreed to a catch weight of 145 pounds plus one, or in effect 146. That’s one pound below the welterweight limit.
How would that fight have led to a big payday? Your saying after getting his jaw busted he still would have fought Canelo last September?
No, but he'd probably be fighting him this May instead. And if he couldn't do that, he'd get a huge fight pretty soon after coming back.
Now he has to work his way up again, which he will, before quitting again or losing a fight he has no business losing, which he will.
I never knew 147 was a catchweight
Ortiz-Berto was originally going to be at a catchweight, I think they changed that at the last minute before making the fight official, so a lot of people were confused about it.
Quit vs Maidana
Mentally checked out vs Peterson
Submitted in 4 vs Floyd
Quit vs Lopez
vs
Beating Berto at a catchweight
I never knew 147 was a catchweight
Like WESS said, it is because it is a bunch of tards who have to discredit any fighter associated with Floyd because they think it makes Pacquiao look better. That was what 95% of the Ortiz hate was about, discrediting a Floyd opponent.
Quit vs Maidana
Mentally checked out vs Peterson
Submitted in 4 vs Floyd
Quit vs Lopez
vs
Beating Berto at a catchweight
Like WESS said, it is because it is a bunch of tards who have to discredit any fighter associated with Floyd because they think it makes Pacquiao look better. That was what 95% of the Ortiz hate was about, discrediting a Floyd opponent.
Ortiz was winning, got his jaw busted by a legal punch, and quit in a fight that would have led to a big payday.
Garcia was winning handily, got his nose busted by a headbutt, and can't be blamed for not letting Salido take advantage of the circumstances created by a foul.
I don't like Garcia not continuing, but its much more understandable than Ortiz.
How would that fight have led to a big payday? Your saying after getting his jaw busted he still would have fought Canelo last September?
You can't hate on Ortiz, then give Garcia a pass. For the record, I was never critical of Ortiz and Garcia was going to win that fight handily. Garcia would have fought on if the doc said he should have.
It's not true:
1. Ortiz conceded the fight, Garcia did no such thing.
2. Ortiz injured by punch, Mikey by butt
You can't hate on Ortiz, then give Garcia a pass. For the record, I was never critical of Ortiz and Garcia was going to win that fight handily. Garcia would have fought on if the doc said he should have.
Lmao at u. Idiots saying that Ortiz jaw was broken by a punch and saying Garcia nose was broken by a illegal head but. The point is Mikey could have gone on where Ortiz couldn't. But 97% of this board were calling Ortiz a bit ch. ha
When AA decided to continue vs Miranda, he said something like this:
I quit and go home with a broken jaw and no belt. I'd rather keep the belt at least.
That's another difference between these 2: Ortiz goes home a loser, to a tuneup no less.
No my point is that most posters here sh itted on Ortiz calling him a quiter because he got his jaw shattered yet those same posters are giving props to Garcia and defending him when he took the easy way out
He's being defended because of the circumstances. Ortiz was injured due to a punch (and his own mouth being open), while Garcia was injured due to a clash of heads. Million dollar question is, if Garcia had not been dominating the fight, would he have continued to fight on? Every fighter has their breaking point, but we've seen guys come outta the ring looking like absolute SHIT. Garcia was in the driver's seat and felt no desire to push the issue when the fight was stopped, his team just went along with it. I understand those who defend his actions and I understand those who find what he did to be reprehensible.
I guess if Salido had punched Garcia in the face and broke his nose, Garcia wouldn't have quit?
Garcia took the easy way out.
No my point is that most posters here sh itted on Ortiz calling him a quiter because he got his jaw shattered yet those same posters are giving props to Garcia and defending him when he took the easy way out
Lmao at u. Idiots saying that Ortiz jaw was broken by a punch and saying Garcia nose was broken by a illegal head but. The point is Mikey could have gone on where Ortiz couldn't. But 97% of this board were calling Ortiz a bit ch. ha
I guess if Salido had punched Garcia in the face and broke his nose, Garcia wouldn't have quit?
Garcia took the easy way out.
Lmao at u. Idiots saying that Ortiz jaw was broken by a punch and saying Garcia nose was broken by a illegal head but. The point is Mikey could have gone on where Ortiz couldn't. But 97% of this board were calling Ortiz a bit ch. ha
He quit before Dr called it so yeah it sux no matter how some try to spin it. Impressive performance though
Side note: some on this thread and other have stated thst Garcia came in and beat the best 126 pounder so hes a warrior and all the while Broner beat the best 140 and hes a hype job so how does that work
Thought the reaction to Ortiz quitting in the Lopez fight was pretty over the top and irrational myself.That wasn't no cut above the brow that he was dealing with in there.
Garcia had a broken nose... Ortiz jaw was shattered, his mouth couldnt even shut, blood pouring out and people called him a b**ch. This guy Garcia was handily winning but he quit over a broken nose... this is boxing, this guy aint no warrior. If anyone hated on Ortiz, they better be hating on Garcia... this guy aint no warrior
Your right. Garcia and Rios talked all that crap about Ortiz now look at Mikey quitting over a broken nose.
unless you've had a broken jaw or nose in a fight, how can you criticise these guys.....?
i never criticized ortiz, just garcia and im pretty sure my nose has been broken