NFL Players average ONLY 0.19 Miles a game. They got no stamina to box...

What's funny is people act like these other non-american Heavyweights are so much better skill wise than other heavyweights in the 90's. Compare the average heavyweight today to back then, the skill level isn't even close. Aside from Wlad, Vitali, and maybe Haye.....who would compete with the 90's heavyweights???

this tired excuse of Americas great hw champ being in the NFL is just that, an excuse. oddly enough, its virtually only Americans who believe it. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Besides you can train in stamina, anyone has the ability to, all it requires is cardio. It's not some skill only a handful of people have lol, you can't however teach what people are born with such as size and explosiveness and just beastly genetics. The size and explosiveness that make Rob Gronkowski, Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson beast in football is exactly what causes them to be deficient as far as stamina.

Boxers are just to to to little to step on the football field.they would just die.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55220000/gif/_55220300_rugby_a_football_624.gif Yes they are big, but that doesn't mean **** if you can't box for 12 rounds. That's like saying Usain Bolt could win a marathon and he is stuck in sprinting. Bench press doesn't mean punching power at all. Frazier couldn't lift weights http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14725789 Most Football Players who have boxed have made fools of them selves From Mark Gastenoa to Ed Too Tall Jones

Let's face it: the NFL excuse is a way for those crying over the success of the Klitschkos to cope with the reality that the heavyweight division is not ruled by black Americans any longer. funny how they didnt dominate in the 90s

People just think that with a bigger pool of athletic big guys, chances are higher you can strike gold. That's all. Boxing still gets amazing athletes at the smaller weight classes but people are just sick of the K Bros. people just hate on them so they use that as an excuse. Personally I think nba players are probably better suited for boxing than football players but thats just me. i agree i think theyed fit in better

This might be the dumbest thread of all time. How idiotic.

People just think that with a bigger pool of athletic big guys, chances are higher you can strike gold. That's all. Boxing still gets amazing athletes at the smaller weight classes but people are just sick of the K Bros. people just hate on them so they use that as an excuse. Personally I think nba players are probably better suited for boxing than football players but thats just me.

this is the dumbest thing ever posted and I'm a huge fan of both. But run a 100 yards at full speed for 60 minutes and see what kind of stamina it takes.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55220000/gif/_55220300_rugby_a_football_624.gif Yes they are big, but that doesn't mean **** if you can't box for 12 rounds. That's like saying Usain Bolt could win a marathon and he is stuck in sprinting. Bench press doesn't mean punching power at all. Frazier couldn't lift weights http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14725789 Yeah man you might want to look up some football training techniques and routines first. As an example, Ray Lewis biked 40 miles a day to lose weight prior to coming into this season. These guys train twice a day for 3 hours a clip doing HIIT for most of that time. They focus on short bursts of speed for the entirety of the game. Just as they would need to change their training techniques to be successul at boxing, a boxer would need to change their training techniques to have any chance to do a football player's job. It does take a great deal o oxygen to push a 300 pound guys back while he is trying his all run through you.

You guys are forgetting the rigorous 8-10week training camp the players go through. Also playing 18 weeks, with 1-2 off weeks in a season. Use common sense. The top boxers are only fighting twice a year and training camp last no longer than 8 weeks. Most of those guys are not in the best of shape before camp. Also training for 2 different sports. Since guys are discrediting NFL players. Lets take Ward for instance, lets say he wanted to have an NFL tryout. Him being Athlete, i bet his transition would suck. All the boxing condition and knowledge would do nothing for him. I can't even see ward playing special teams. What most of you guys are missing is that these guys are running full speed @ the start of the play.

.19 miles a game? Maybe if you include kickers and long snappers.

great athletes are great athletes. you can't just switch sports however you want and expect to be good at it, but if you're a great athlete the tools were there for you to excel at other sports too if you picked it as a youth.

Athlete's come in all shapes and sizes. Just because someone is a great swimmer, it does not mean that can play other sports. Those guys are 6 foot 2+ and huge. They have great recovery as well as stamina, strength and determination. The NFL has athletes that excel at what they do. That does not mean they could ever box, even from a young age. World level stamina and boxing skills isn't just about what if they started at a young age. You either have it or you don't. You either can punch or you can't. You either can take a beating in training and in the ring or you can't. You either wake up at 5 am and run by yourself or you mentally can't. You either enjoy working alone or you don't. I know many guys who can wrestle, arm wrestle, run, play other sports, but it doesn't mean they would ever touch me up in a ring, even from a young age. Some people are built for other things. You are a retard even by suggesting these NFL players would be top level boxers if they started at a young age. The World doesn't work like that. When it comes to World level ability and class, just by saying this athlete could be this does not work. This is true, both sports select for different skills. It's possible that the vast majority of NFL players wouldn't reach a high level of boxing simply because they don't have the stamina. Something which isn't selected for in the NFL to near the same extent as many other sports.

I think if this guy walked into a gym at age 9 or so, I think he would have been a pretty decent HW. http://shechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/athletes-hot-16.jpg?w=500&h=772 And he is a "little" linebacker. Football (American, limey green toofs) is a game of explosions. Short bursts. You won't see 6'5, 350 pound Haloti Ngata running 50 yards on the pitch. As can be said that you wouldn't see Lionel Messi make it through 1 quarter of a NFL game at Running Back.

If someone can't see a difference in the skill of the average heavyweight today compared to the 90's.....I don't know what to tell you....

Do you even watch the NFL? Have you ever even played football? Those guys running so little and being so tired should tell you that they aren't tired from running but from something else lol. The only guys that really have stamina issues are the offensive linemen and some DT's. Many NFL players were former track stars, take former NFL player Justin Gatlin for example, you may have heard of him last year for winning bronze in the Olympic 100m dash running a 9.79. They're tired from pushing, tackling, sprinting etc. these guys are not only incredibly strong and fast but explosive as well. Moving laterally too, it's very tiring trying to block a guy that is 6'6 270lbs of pure muscle, or trying to push two 6'8 300lb guys out of your way. You are using your ENTIRE body pushing. Besides you can train in stamina, anyone has the ability to, all it requires is cardio. It's not some skill only a handful of people have lol, you can't however teach what people are born with such as size and explosiveness and just beastly genetics. And as others have said nobody is saying an NFL player can instantly go into boxing and have success, it's all about talent pool. The HW division regressing from two guys in the 70s like Ali and Frazier going 14 rounds in 100 degree weather with 90% humidity in an all out war to fat asses punching themselves out by the 7th in air conditioned arenas.

As for Martinez, I don't think he is all that. He beat Paul William's who was an OK fighter. He lost to Marg. He beat Chavez who got a shot at a title because of his name. Face it, Chavez is not very good. He has faced guys who are fringe level in Barker, Macklin, Dzinziruk etc... Pavlik was an OK win but look at how many problems he had before that fight... Cintron was OK but lost a lot. Martinez is OK but not that great. Paul Williams was a highly ranked fighter at the time of his loss against Martinez. Margarito was fairly early in Sergio's career. It's safe to assume that Martinez didn't develop his craft at that point in time. Pavlik was on a tear in the MW division prior to Martinez. Sure, he had a loss to Hopkins prior, but that was in the LHW division. Chavez, contextually speaking, was a solid win for Martinez. Chavez was coming off a dominant win with the Andy Lee bout. The Cintron fight was a robbery and you know it. As for these fringe level fighters you're referring to, I'll agree. However, keep in mind that Martinez wanted bigger fights, but couldn't get them on the table.

How am I contradicting myself? Did I say ONLY stamina? No. Is stamina needed to do 12 rounds at top level? Hell yes. If you lack stamina then you aren't going to win many rounds vs a top boxer. Heck you will leave your chin hanging and get KTFO. You need all those things, and STAMINA is included. Without stamina, you will not get far. So yes, my point stands, no stamina = No chance to be good. Your primary criticism was right in the TITLE of your thread. It states that NFL players "got no stamina to box..." Even when I pointed this out in my initial response, you still keep on with the contradiction. You keep pointing to a supposed "lack" of stamina in NFL athletes that will be their primary downfall in Boxing. This is so ridiculous on so many front that I don't even know where to begin. First, how do you even know that they have poor stamina? What do you base this on?