I've got 5 borderliners who are clearly HOF. But, are they ATG? 1. Oscar De LaHoya; 2. Mannie Pacquiao; 3. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.; 4. Wladimere Klitschko; 5. Juan Manuel Marquez.
Let's see the vote.
edit the cutoff at Top 50 ATG for clarity.
multiple choice poll
Trivia Question:
Which of these fighters have been knocked out cold?
Only Poochiao has been knocked out cold!
Trivia Question:
Which of these fighters have never been down from a punch in their pro career?
Floyd Mayweather
WOOOOW!! did I just see people saying they didn't think De La Hoya was a ATG, but everybody else could be!! Guys must have just started following boxing. De La Hoya was what Pac is right now;...He had the "machine behind him, and a big fan favorite.
If your going by his losses, then they were all to future HOF's
I can't see Wlad being a ATG, because of the weak HW division, for JMM the Pac K.O. is not enough to guarantee ATG status. Pac and May; there are plenty of reasons to go either way
Pac, Floyd and Marquez ATGs, with Marquez being a borderline ATG. Oscar and Wlad are HOF locks.
I wouldn't argue, much at least, that Marquez is a great HOFer, bordering on ATG. However, I think a résumé that reads...
Pacquiao
Barrera
Casamayor
Medina
Gainer
Salido
Diaz
Peden
Kotey
Sanchez
Gervacio
Juarez
...all of whom were champions, with the exception of Juarez who was an excellent top contender, deserves ATG status considering you have champions ranging from 118 to 147. That doesn't even take into account Juans accomplishment that go hand in hand with those wins.
bumperooo....
Lol I must admit this is weird for me, and I may sound like a flowmo. Why the option "Floyd is ATG" missing and replaced with "barely ATG"?
I mean doesnt he deserves the benefit of at least dissecting the idea at least from all of his accomplishments?
As I stated above, I did that to encourage the Floyd haters to vote their conscience.
Mayweather and Pac are ATGs, Marquez, Wlad and Oscar are HOF shoe-ins. Oscar could've been an ATG had he stayed at WW, but fair play to him for taking on pretty much everyone. One thing I don't like abouth DLH's career is the fact that very few of his super fights lived up to the hype (the Trinidad fight probably being the best example).
Pac, Floyd and Marquez ATGs, with Marquez being a borderline ATG. Oscar and Wlad are HOF locks.
I wouldn't argue, much at least, that Marquez is a great HOFer, bordering on ATG. However, I think a résumé that reads...
Pacquiao
Barrera
Casamayor
Medina
Gainer
Salido
Diaz
Peden
Kotey
Sanchez
Gervacio
Juarez
...all of whom were champions, with the exception of Juarez who was an excellent top contender, deserves ATG status considering you have champions ranging from 118 to 147. That doesn't even take into account Juans accomplishment that go hand in hand with those wins.
Lol I must admit this is weird for me, and I may sound like a flowmo. Why the option "Floyd is ATG" missing and replaced with "barely ATG"?
I mean doesnt he deserves the benefit of at least dissecting the idea at least from all of his accomplishments?
Pacquiao is an ATG. Floyd is an ATG. marquez is in between, he has the skills of an ATG, has one super big win that beats anyone on floyd and pac's resume. but his overall body of work doesnt make up for it. Wlad is a HOF. Oscar is a HOF.
How can you take someone serious when they say Wlad is an ATG, but Floyd isn't. This place never seems to disappoint.
Where are you getting that? The poll shows Wlad has less support than Floyd for ATG.
Pacquiao and Wladimir are the only ATGs in that list.
Fraud is just that, a Fraud.
JMM beat only one good fighter. After 3 tries.
Oscar is con artist as well.
Bumperoooo.....
Mayweather and Pacquiao are in the Top 50, no doubt about it. They are certified Top 50 ATG's.
Marquez is right around there, I don't know if I'd place him in the Top 50, but he's close. De La Hoya isn't in the Top 50, but he's clearly in the Top 100. Wlad isn't in the Top 100 all-time, no way.
But I consider Top 100 ATG's, so I'd say Floyd and Manny are clearly the two highest ATG's on here, than Marquez, than Oscar. Wlad is a HOF in my book, but no way is he Top 100.
I believe only Manny Pacquiao and just possibly Wladimir Klitschko. The others are on the edge and not there yet, maybe will but likely won't.
Wlad has alot of work to do.