Not sure if this has been made before but I would really love to see this fight. It was be a slugfest and guarantee fireworks. Who would you guys put money on if you had to? I have to go with Chavez. He's much bigger, has a proven chin, and has beaten legit competition. Golovkin would put up a good effort though.
True. But is Golovkin gonna wanna get in close long enough to trade body shots? It would be interesting.
That's exactly why this is one of the best fights that can be made. Their styles complement each other so well to where the fight is bound to break down into a slug-fest. Both guys are coming to hurt one another, but since Golovkin seems to be more accurate and has better punch placement, I'll side with him to get the W. I really hope this happens before September, and then the winner gets Martinez.
Chavez didn't stop Zbik/Rubio and they fought his fight. He might be bigger than Golovkin, but it comes at the price of being weight-drained. Chavez's punch resistance is still a question mark imho, and Golovkin is a pretty good body-puncher. We know Chavez can absorb head shots, but his body is a different story. Did you see how he was reacting to Sergio's body shots?
True. But is Golovkin gonna wanna get in close long enough to trade body shots? It would be interesting.
True, but it does mean you can take punches much better if you outweigh your opponent by 15-20 pounds. It also means your punches will take their toll much quicker, especially with Chavez's relentless body attack. I don't think it would be smart for anybody to exchange with Chavez Jr in this division.
Chavez didn't stop Zbik/Rubio and they fought his fight. He might be bigger than Golovkin, but it comes at the price of being weight-drained. Chavez's punch resistance is still a question mark imho, and Golovkin is a pretty good body-puncher. We know Chavez can absorb head shots, but his body is a different story. Did you see how he was reacting to Sergio's body shots?
people are confusing two entirely different thing here. being bigger doesnt mean ure necessarily stronger. paul williams was bigger than just about everyone he fought from 147-160 yet lara and margarito looked "stronger" than he did
cotto was bigger than pac when they fought but pac looked to be stronger
i can continue this list for days
True, but it does mean you can take punches much better if you outweigh your opponent by 15-20 pounds. It also means your punches will take their toll much quicker, especially with Chavez's relentless body attack. I don't think it would be smart for anybody to exchange with Chavez Jr in this division.
people are confusing two entirely different thing here. being bigger doesnt mean ure necessarily stronger. paul williams was bigger than just about everyone he fought from 147-160 yet lara and margarito looked "stronger" than he did
cotto was bigger than pac when they fought but pac looked to be stronger
i can continue this list for days
+1
Just ask the Heavyweights how much their size helped when they fought this Middleweight
Could he stand up to punches from Chavez Jr for 10+ rounds? A Chavez Jr that weighs 175-180 on fight night?
people are confusing two entirely different thing here. being bigger doesnt mean ure necessarily stronger. paul williams was bigger than just about everyone he fought from 147-160 yet lara and margarito looked "stronger" than he did
cotto was bigger than pac when they fought but pac looked to be stronger
i can continue this list for days
Saying he would destroy Chavez is another overhyping scenario, 3G takes too many punches himself and I swear he would not take those same punches from a damn crusierweight in Chavez and be standing like he did Ouma or Proksa..
Golovkin spars with actual CW's like Imoesiri, i think he could take Chavez's slightly above averege MW power without much trouble.
Chavez would get pummeled. His face would be unrecognizable. You thought he looked bad after Martinez, a Golovkin fight would be even worse.
BTW, Chavez sucks. So he knocked down a 37 year old Martinez in the final seconds of the 12 round, a fatigued Martinez who's been floored plenty of times, big whoop. That doesn't make him a good fighter. Chavez has a great chin though, I'll give him that, which is why I believe the corner or the ref would stop the fight after taking so many shots to his destroyed face.
Where's that pic in your AV from?
Saying he would destroy Chavez is another overhyping scenario, 3G takes too many punches himself and I swear he would not take those same punches from a damn crusierweight in Chavez and be standing like he did Ouma or Proksa..
Not sure how big you are but I'm closer to 160 and I can tell you that I'd rather not get decked in the face by a 180 plus pound professional boxer who is 5 inches taller than I am. Chavez has a sneaky left hook that is pretty quick, ask Andy Lee about it. Chavez hits hard, I'm not saying he is a one punch KO artist but at 160, his punches are not to be taken lightly...he can hurt you badly especially to the body.
3G was taking flush shots from Proksa and in other film I have seen of him, he eats shots all the time but he has a very solid chin like Chavez. Chavez is a hyped punk but too many people give him too little credit. I personally thought Lee would beat him but Chavez had Lee out on his feet. 3G may win the fight but he is in no way a defensive genius and I'm not seeing where he is this unbeatable force as everyone is claiming he is. I think he is strong, has a good chin and places his shots well but I have seen nothing from him to suggest a future ATG.
not denying chavez is bigger, he's the biggest mw in the division...but he's definitely not the strongest. there was no indication in the lee fight that he's "quick" and i'm curious to hear what u saw in that fight to warrant saying this
i never said ggg is a defensive genius, in fact i agree with u that he gets hit but i've rarely seen him get hit flush and i've never ever seen him bothered when he did. ouma was able to hit ggg with his awkward style and proksa got a few nice shots in but then again so did lopez against canelo but he was just overpowered and pummeled into submission in a similar way ggg beat proksa down
ggg isnt an unbeatable force, but he is very hard to beat considering his power, accuracy and smart combination punching
Haven't seen much of GGG other than his first HBO appearance and the hype on here so id say he needs to make a name for himself this year, at least in America
Chavez would get pummeled. His face would be unrecognizable. You thought he looked bad after Martinez, a Golovkin fight would be even worse.
BTW, Chavez sucks. So he knocked down a 37 year old Martinez in the final seconds of the 12 round, a fatigued Martinez who's been floored plenty of times, big whoop. That doesn't make him a good fighter. Chavez has a great chin though, I'll give him that, which is why I believe the corner or the ref would stop the fight after taking so many shots to his destroyed face.
How is GGG's chin? Excluding Martinez I'll give him a strong chance at beating anyone at 160. That includes GGG. His defense isn't much better then Chavez's. It would be interesting.
underrated speed? andy lee was able to beat him to the punch in their fight and i'm pretty sure he isnt considered a fast fighter
big time power? well no, he breaks opponents down by imposing his size and he's strong but i've never considered jr to be a power puncher. its the same reason jr wont go up a division or two, the only thing that will keep him in the fight against guys his size is his chin once he loses his physical advantages. he's not slick, his defense is horrible and he has no head movement
if jr were to fight ggg he'd be easily timed with hard combinations and ggg would probably make him retire on his stool
Not sure how big you are but I'm closer to 160 and I can tell you that I'd rather not get decked in the face by a 180 plus pound professional boxer who is 5 inches taller than I am. Chavez has a sneaky left hook that is pretty quick, ask Andy Lee about it. Chavez hits hard, I'm not saying he is a one punch KO artist but at 160, his punches are not to be taken lightly...he can hurt you badly especially to the body.
3G was taking flush shots from Proksa and in other film I have seen of him, he eats shots all the time but he has a very solid chin like Chavez. Chavez is a hyped punk but too many people give him too little credit. I personally thought Lee would beat him but Chavez had Lee out on his feet. 3G may win the fight but he is in no way a defensive genius and I'm not seeing where he is this unbeatable force as everyone is claiming he is. I think he is strong, has a good chin and places his shots well but I have seen nothing from him to suggest a future ATG.
Chavez is not too technical but he has underrated speed and big time power at 160. He should really be fighting at 168 or 175 but he might get stretched out fighting guys as big or bigger than he is. 3G could land shots on him but he himself is not too hard to hit and taking constant shots from a dude with Chavez' size and power is going to wear anyone down, I don't care how good our chin is. It would be a great action fight but I would also like to see Chavez-Macklin or Chavez-Pavlik, those would be great fights as well.
What? 165lb Zbik stood up to everything he offered no problem then went on to get busted up and stopped by light punching Sturm in his next fight. HE doesn't have real big one punch power at 160 and once he starts fighting at SMW guys are going to walk through his punches with little problem.
Chavez is not too technical but he has underrated speed and big time power at 160. He should really be fighting at 168 or 175 but he might get stretched out fighting guys as big or bigger than he is. 3G could land shots on him but he himself is not too hard to hit and taking constant shots from a dude with Chavez' size and power is going to wear anyone down, I don't care how good our chin is. It would be a great action fight but I would also like to see Chavez-Macklin or Chavez-Pavlik, those would be great fights as well.
underrated speed? andy lee was able to beat him to the punch in their fight and i'm pretty sure he isnt considered a fast fighter
big time power? well no, he breaks opponents down by imposing his size and he's strong but i've never considered jr to be a power puncher. its the same reason jr wont go up a division or two, the only thing that will keep him in the fight against guys his size is his chin once he loses his physical advantages. he's not slick, his defense is horrible and he has no head movement
if jr were to fight ggg he'd be easily timed with hard combinations and ggg would probably make him retire on his stool
Chavez is not too technical but he has underrated speed and big time power at 160. He should really be fighting at 168 or 175 but he might get stretched out fighting guys as big or bigger than he is. 3G could land shots on him but he himself is not too hard to hit and taking constant shots from a dude with Chavez' size and power is going to wear anyone down, I don't care how good our chin is. It would be a great action fight but I would also like to see Chavez-Macklin or Chavez-Pavlik, those would be great fights as well.
That would be a great fight too, and it would make sense cuz Chavez doesn't belong at MW anymore.
Couple this with the fact that despite Kelly's mishaps he still has pop in his punches.
I know I may be in the minority in saying this but I wouldn't mind seeing a comeback fight in having Chavez and Kelly Pavlik fight.
Let's see who has more in the tank!
That would be a great fight too, and it would make sense cuz Chavez doesn't belong at MW anymore.