I posted this yesterday and have had a lot of folks hitting me up because they share my sentiments, so I decided to post a thread about it because I felt it is a good point of discussion.
I'm disappointed in all this hate towards Pacquaio. Both of these guys have given boxing fans some great, memorable matches. The fight was so exciting, packed with tit for tat. Marquez landed the perfect counter that laid Pacquaio out and he deserves some serious credit for such a great fight-ending punch, but to sit here and see all this hate towards Pacquaio, trolls going out of their way to try and humiliate him, spewing hate at his fans, is a discredit to this great sport. Pacquaio and JMM are both great boxing pugilists. No one should be wishing ill-spiritedness towards either one, whether it be slandering their name or wishing them to be injured or worse. I loved the fight, but seeing Pacquaio down like that for an extended amount of time saddened me, just like it would have if it would have been JMM. Honor the boxing greats. Don't hate them when all they have ever done is work tirelessly to entertain you with great fights, great hearts, and great courage. WAR JMM! WAR PACQUIAO!
Respect should be Preached long before your favorite fighter got knocked the fuk out
Don't come talking about Respect Now because people are now laughing at your Hero and making funny Photos of him NOW
Some Pacquiao and Mayweather fans have went as far as disrespecting BOXING LEGENDS to try and prove that their favorite fighters was the greatest of all times
You dug your own grave now lay in it and deal with people throwing dirt on type of you by Laughing at you and your FALLEN HERO...both fan bases was out of control and both need to be humbled...don't get to happy Mayweather fans your boy could be next, now I am not saying Mayweather will get knocked out cool like that because he is a very smart fighter and he is not wild like Manny and doesn't take as many risk in the ring as Manny, but eventually somebody is going to come along and might even out-box him...but Mayweather will likely get out of the sport before that happens unfortunately
I've never seen a boxer I hate get truly KTFO. But I'd like to think that if I ever saw Mayweather laid out, I wouldn't run onto BoxingScene to jam my profile with gifs and pics of it.
To me, there's a real immaturity and lack of compassion that runs through the sport. Pac and JMM gave us the defining fight of this generation, just represented this sport, this floundering, niche sport unbelievably well - and yet you've got a whole bunch of people running around, laughing at one of these great warriors getting brutally KOd.
But then this is the sport where people casually make fun of Toney slurring his words, not realising how absolutely troubling it is that he's doing so.
Another issue with the Pac nonsense is that the crowing has come from a fanbase that wasn't even directly involved in the fight. I mean, the Flowmos actually hi-jacked the whole thing from the Mexicans :lol1:
I mean, the idea that fanbases could have their own rivalry......it just sad. Just so, so retarded.
Hate that **** too.
To disrespect any warrior after a defeat is what the "idiot boxing fans" have always done! Its the make up and mentality of people who would never have the guts to step in a ring or fight for any reasons. People who disgrace a fallen warrior have always been "Cowards" everyone knows that, especially them!! Just listen for the ones who yell the loudest!
Pac and Juan gave trememdous efforts in their bouts their both to be respected as boxings best current day warriors. They fought often and had no fears about their careers. I wish more pro boxers had their convictions!
Ray.
the notion that the only ppl complaining are pacquiao fans is beyond stupid. im not a pacquiao, hatton or margarito fan yet i didnt mock any of them, williams neither.
i agree the ppl who are being hypocrites should be quiet, four wrongs still dont make a right though. on top of that some of us simply have respect for the fighters and never dissrespect any of them for losing a fight.
to poke fun at a few fans is alright, but theres no reason to humiliate a warrior especially when hes already at a low point. then again i dont think ppl around here realize how much pride fighters have, hatton tried to kill himself over the embarassment of being knocked out in such brutal fashion.
getting ktfo in front of millions of ppl is part of boxing, they also became world champions in front of millions of ppl. but being taunted after a loss shouldnt come with the territory, they deserve more respect than that.
I agree completely.
No body was saying any of that **** when tags of Margaritos broken orbital bone were posted everywhere as well a pictures making fun of his eye. Or the pictures of hatton sleeping. Paul williams got it pretty bad too. Welcome to the other side of the coin pac fans and congrats, you're boy made the highlight reel again only this time hes the guest of honor and not the host.
the notion that the only ppl complaining are pacquiao fans is beyond stupid. im not a pacquiao, hatton or margarito fan yet i didnt mock any of them, williams neither.
i agree the ppl who are being hypocrites should be quiet, four wrongs still dont make a right though. on top of that some of us simply have respect for the fighters and never dissrespect any of them for losing a fight.
to poke fun at a few fans is alright, but theres no reason to humiliate a warrior especially when hes already at a low point. then again i dont think ppl around here realize how much pride fighters have, hatton tried to kill himself over the embarassment of being knocked out in such brutal fashion.
getting ktfo in front of millions of ppl is part of boxing, they also became world champions in front of millions of ppl. but being taunted after a loss shouldnt come with the territory, they deserve more respect than that.
Put yourself in that humanity category. you are a hypocrite because you can't like a great Ko, and pay to see a great ko, then turn around and say you feel bad for the loser.
If you care so much......write a letter to ALL the fighters in the world and tell them don't fight and risk your life in a ring. Then keep your money and stop watching and paying for boxing events.
How can a person spend money to watch two men beat each others brains out while cheering the action on.....but once one fighter gets ko'd you turn into a pastor of a church?
Boxing is a blood sport.. It's an animalistic sport.
It's the animalistic ways inside of boxing fans that make us wanna see blood, ko's, knock downs, etc.
Your just like all boxing fans......stop
thats not even remotely what im doing.
i NEVER said theres anything wrong with knockouts, it comes with the territory. that doesnt mean it doesnt suck for whoever gets knocked out. i feel sorry for ppl who get divorced, get into car accidents, get fired etc too. that doesnt mean ppl shouldnt be allowed to get married, drive or work. it just means there is a downside to almost everything and me not being a dick i feel compassion for ppl when they go through it.
im not saying we should cry them a river, they chose to fight and getting knocked out is part of boxing. i never said it wasnt. however getting taunted for being knocked out is a whole other story, thats doesnt have anything to do with boxing. its dissrespectful and one thing that also come with the territory of being a boxer should be respect, bcuz of the risk invloved like getting knocked out.
i never said theres anything wrong with the brutal aspect of boxing, im saying respect the ppl invloved due to the brutal aspect of boxing. they earned it. boxing is indeed a blood sport, so how can we laugh at the warriors invloved just for coming up short?
where were these people at when people were making fun of fighters like hatton,khan and williams?should those fighters not get respect too?what about when cotto lost to margarito and people had gifs of his son and wife crying?it's all cool until it happends to pacquiao i guess
No body was saying any of that **** when tags of Margaritos broken orbital bone were posted everywhere as well a pictures making fun of his eye. Or the pictures of hatton sleeping. Paul williams got it pretty bad too. Welcome to the other side of the coin pac fans and congrats, you're boy made the highlight reel again only this time hes the guest of honor and not the host.
pacquiao fan here, i see no problem with it.
the way he got KTFO and the social media/internet age and all the trappings that go along with it, this is to be expected.
This is what awaits any athlete/celebrity caught in any compromising position from here on out.
WELCOME TO THE INTERNET AGE.
its bound to happened. i meant, it even happened to michael jackson when he died.
pacquiao fan here, i see no problem with it.
the way he got KTFO and the social media/internet age and all the trappings that go along with it, this is to be expected.
This is what awaits any athlete/celebrity caught in any compromising position from here on out.
WELCOME TO THE INTERNET AGE.
Seriously. Posters that rocked that thing in tagalog for years are on here now saying "oh but it is disrespectful to manny." It really just proves they never gave a damn about the sport. All they cared about was fighters the same skin color as them and an insane amount of unjustified nationalism.
Preach brother preach!:headbang:
I can't even make gifs you imbecile, let alone do all that.
If taking joy in comatose fighters is really the sort of person you* are then you don't respect the fighters or the sport, you're not a true boxing fan and you shouldn't pretend to be one.
*'you' being a general term, not you personally.
I'll tell you something else, I wouldn't and won't be making some pathetic picture of Mayweather if or when he gets knocked out either. I even felt bad for him when he walked back to his corner embarrassed after Mosley rocked him- because guess what - it's human nature, but some of you must have missed that input growing up.
Whatever, it's a reflection on you. Not my problem.
LOL Anybody can post a gif. Even you. You never complained about this until now which is my point that you are a phony with an agenda. And a liar too. You felt bad for Floyd in the Mosley fight?:rofl: That's some serious BS.
the thing about those posters and me-we like boxing and we like floyd. we just don't have to pretend otherwise like you do. at least the pac boys and hugh grants of the world are honest about how they feel. you aren't even man enough to do that.
If I was a fan of Manny's I wouldnt have a problem saying so, but I'm not so I dont. I dont feel anything about Manny other than acknowledging the fact he is a great fighter, one of many. You make yourself look exactly as my description say's when you have the brass neck to say that you and the yesir's of this world like boxing and floyd!:rofl:
Put yourself in that humanity category. you are a hypocrite because you can't like a great Ko, and pay to see a great ko, then turn around and say you feel bad for the loser.
If you care so much......write a letter to ALL the fighters in the world and tell them don't fight and risk your life in a ring. Then keep your money and stop watching and paying for boxing events.
How can a person spend money to watch two men beat each others brains out while cheering the action on.....but once one fighter gets ko'd you turn into a pastor of a church?
Boxing is a blood sport.. It's an animalistic sport.
It's the animalistic ways inside of boxing fans that make us wanna see blood, ko's, knock downs, etc.
Your just like all boxing fans......stop
It is also still a civilized fighting sport. I, for one, don't want to revisit Ancient Greece or not allow refs to continue stopping fights if a boxer is taking too much punishment, etc...
man this is so lame....dudes complaining about other dudes having fun with a knockout of a fighter who is very popular in a high profile scrap?!?...c'mon man, this can't be real...smh...this is NSB where one of the most skilled fighters of any era is called a coward and chicken....where the oldest man to EVER win a major boxing championship is called everything but a great fighter....the place where a trainer who suffers from diabetes and probably some other illness not made public is called a crackhead....the place where warriors like Cotto and Ortiz get rode constantly for having moments of weakness and artist like Devon Alexander and Andre Ward get slammed for NOT taking their art on the road....the place where the most dominant HW's of this era get called everything but GREAT role models and above average fighters who would've been a force in any era
welcome to ground zero...hard hats required!!!
I agree with a lot of good points you've made here. Especially regarding hate towards other high profile boxers. But this ^^^ is exactly why I started this thread discussion because this kind of hate shouldn't be going on against any fighter, Pacquiao and the likes of those above you mentioned.
I posted this yesterday and have had a lot of folks hitting me up because they share my sentiments, so I decided to post a thread about it because I felt it is a good point of discussion.
I fully agree. Pac is an ATG (as well as Marquez) who has continued to give us great fights and deserves respect. I never wanted to see Pac or Marquez get stopped in that fashion.
And, these horrible fans are the reason most boxers don't visit forums or boxing websites. It's bad for them to see that kind of talk.
i don't think it is cool, to clown a cat, who was pretty much laid out cold and unresponsive...karma?..that ain't it...this was two prideful cats who knew each other like bookends in the ring...two sportsmen...both should be commended for saving whats left of the sport of boxing...
Yet when Victor Ortiz hit Mayweather with his head you thought it was funny enough to make a gif out it. While calling it a great shot wishing he had broken Mayweather's nose. As we speak, there are avatars with Andre Berto's damaged face but I didn't see any complaining from you about that.So stop with this your phony self righteous act. You're as "brain dead" and stupid and any of the other fanatics on both sides of the issue. The fact that you're still bitter about Ricky Hatton's shortcomings is proof of that.
I can't even make gifs you imbecile, let alone do all that.
If taking joy in comatose fighters is really the sort of person you* are then you don't respect the fighters or the sport, you're not a true boxing fan and you shouldn't pretend to be one.
*'you' being a general term, not you personally.
I'll tell you something else, I wouldn't and won't be making some pathetic picture of Mayweather if or when he gets knocked out either. I even felt bad for him when he walked back to his corner embarrassed after Mosley rocked him- because guess what - it's human nature, but some of you must have missed that input growing up.
Whatever, it's a reflection on you. Not my problem.
man this is so lame....dudes complaining about other dudes having fun with a knockout of a fighter who is very popular in a high profile scrap?!?...c'mon man, this can't be real...smh...this is NSB where one of the most skilled fighters of any era is called a coward and chicken....where the oldest man to EVER win a major boxing championship is called everything but a great fighter....the place where a trainer who suffers from diabetes and probably some other illness not made public is called a crackhead....the place where warriors like Cotto and Ortiz get rode constantly for having moments of weakness and artist like Devon Alexander and Andre Ward get slammed for NOT taking their art on the road....the place where the most dominant HW's of this era get called everything but GREAT role models and above average fighters who would've been a force in any era
welcome to ground zero...hard hats required!!!
Part of what game? the "act like a classless dirtbag while online game"?
because it sure as hell isn't a part of professional boxing that any pro fighter would get involved in.
It's always the same braindead posters too, you can tell they don't come from good backgrounds with someone to teach them wrong from right.
Yet when Victor Ortiz hit Mayweather with his head you thought it was funny enough to make a gif out it. While calling it a great shot wishing he had broken Mayweather's nose. As we speak, there are avatars with Andre Berto's damaged face but I didn't see any complaining from you about that.So stop with this phony self righteous act. You're as "brain dead" and stupid and any of the other fanatics on both sides of the issue. The fact that you're still bitter about Ricky Hatton's shortcomings is proof of that.