Pacquiao just got KTFO! I think the next fight should be Marquez vs Mayweather. Pacquiao was never on that level. As i said before, he was the people's champion, not the champion in the sense he was the best. Never really was the best IMO. Got KTFO by a 40 year old version of the same fighter Floyd dropped and won every round against.
So just quit man. Also, fighters who get KOed like that rarely if ever fight the same as before so if you think they will just reset you are dead wrong. Pacquiao's confidence, chin and overall durability will take an huge toll.
Lennox came back after his brutal loss to Rahman....to go on to beat his most credentialed win...vitali.
JMM just knocked out one of the biggest stars of boxing, finally got a clear win against his rival and got his revenge in dramatic fashion. If I were him, I'd retire. Don't risk that accomplishment and go out on top. As for Pac, he had a great run. Either retire or end his career on a mediocre win and then walk away. Deep down I don't think they would want a 5th.
You're wrong. Pac vs JMM 5 is everything sports fans love.
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Even if Pacquiao vs Floyd was made in its prime after Pacquiao KO'd Hatton it wouldn't have been as big as Pac vs JMM 5.
Pacquiao just got KTFO! I think the next fight should be Marquez vs Mayweather. Pacquiao was never on that level. As i said before, he was the people's champion, not the champion in the sense he was the best. Never really was the best IMO. Got KTFO by a 40 year old version of the same fighter Floyd dropped and won every round against.
So just quit man. Also, fighters who get KOed like that rarely if ever fight the same as before so if you think they will just reset you are dead wrong. Pacquiao's confidence, chin and overall durability will take an huge toll.
You're wrong. Pac vs JMM 5 is everything sports fans love.
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Even if Pacquiao vs Floyd was made in its prime after Pacquiao KO'd Hatton it wouldn't have been as big as Pac vs JMM 5.
You do realize that Floyd/Manny were estimated to make upward to 50 million dollars each for that fight and some people were estimating the fight could bring in a quarter billion dollars in total revenue... Manny/Marquez 5 will not be anywhere even near those numbers; stop overreacting
sure, i'd watch a 5th installment of the rivalry, but not right away, i'd like both acquire a belt first to up the stakes, that way it would force a lot more people to watch it
Your wrong. Pac vs JMM 5 is everything sports fans love.
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RIVALRY
NATIONALISM
SPORTSMANSHIP
COMEBACK STORY
Even if Pacquiao vs Floyd was made in its prime after Pacquiao KO'd Hatton it wouldn't have been as big as Pac vs JMM 5. Sports fans don't care about boxing, so they don't know that Pac vs. JMM V has 'everything' they love.
Pac and Marquez is never going to get the hype of Floyd/Pac would get. Every single fight Manny or Mayweather has taken over the last however many years has been viewed in light of how it effects Floyd/Pac INCLUDING the last three Marquez/Pacquiao fights.
Every other fight in boxing was living under the shadow of a fight that nobody had even come close to signing, INCLUDING this one. Why do you think one of the very first things every sports commentator in the world was asking after this is how it effects Manny/Floyd? Because that's the fight that they knew was bigger than all the rest.
Comparing Pac/Marquez V to that is just ridiculous. No promoter in the world would have booked Pac/Marquez II, III, IV, or V if they could have booked Pac/Floyd. There is simply no comparision here.
I don't know if you are a fanboy or not. If anything, I would simply assume you are cynical about what a Pac/Floyd fight would have been BECAUSE of the fanboys, not that you are one of them.
But the fact is, JMM/Pac V is simply not on the level of what Pac/Floyd would have been if egos hadn't ruined it.
There is no way another Pac/Marquez fight gets the same hype from the rest of the sports world that Pac/Floyd would have gotten. It's not even comparable.
You're wrong. Pac vs JMM 5 is everything sports fans love.
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RIVALRY
NATIONALISM
SPORTSMANSHIP
COMEBACK STORY
Even if Pacquiao vs Floyd was made in its prime after Pacquiao KO'd Hatton it wouldn't have been as big as Pac vs JMM 5.
Yeah, I don't think so SCT.
It would be huge, and entirely unnecessary, but it will never garner the massive hype that Pac/Floyd had going for it.
With Pac coming off a huge, devastating KO loss, any interest in his next fight will be more subdued than if he was still dominating and winning big. Both of those guys looked unstoppable, hence the reason it attracted such hype. Now that Pac has finally lost (I'm not even going to count the Bradley 'loss'), and so brutally at that, even a rematch gets less.
Dude I am not one of those stupid fanboys. All I am doing is stating fact JMM vs Pac 5 will break every PPV record known to man. I don't know if you are a fanboy or not. If anything, I would simply assume you are cynical about what a Pac/Floyd fight would have been BECAUSE of the fanboys, not that you are one of them.
But the fact is, JMM/Pac V is simply not on the level of what Pac/Floyd would have been if egos hadn't ruined it.
There is no way another Pac/Marquez fight gets the same hype from the rest of the sports world that Pac/Floyd would have gotten. It's not even comparable.
Um... no. No, it won't.
I know the 'Flo-mo' and 'Pac-t*rd' stuff can really make anyone who spends too much time on boxing/sports message boards cynical about that fight, but that really would have been one of the all-time hyped match-ups in boxing, so let's not go crazy here and diminish what that fight could have/should have been just because it's fun to mock one guy or the other.
That said, will Pac/Marquez V (should it happen, and I really hope it doesn't) do good numbers? Quite possibly. I don't know what the promotion will consist of after they promised that 'THIS FIGHT WILL SETTLE IT!', just like they promised III would 'FINALLY SETTLE IT!', only difference here is that IV actually seemed like it settled it.
There is no weird judging controversey of a 'maybe' victory here. Pacquiao got KO'ed in dramatic Ricky Hatton fashion here. This wasn't some ticky tack ref over protection KO. This was 'I don't know if he wakes up before Christmas' KO.
That being said, this is possibly Arum's only real draw left (outside of maybe a Bradley rematch) where he can really command a huge payday for Pacquiao and Marquez has a good bargaining position for even more cash in a rematch, too, so there is definitely money in this, and we all know that cash rules everything around, so...
Oh, final note... I hate the idea that Marquez 'owes' it Pac for another one because Pac did the same for him. Pac didn't give Marquez a rematch for Marquez's benefit. Those fights were arranged because they drew, they were one of the few decent alternatives to Mayweather, and Pac never once beat Marquez decisively.
You cannot say the same about what Marquez just did.
Dude I am not one of those stupid fanboys. All I am doing is stating fact JMM vs Pac 5 will break every PPV record known to man.
Five times is too much especially when we would like to see other fighters fight each other for the first time. Look at how many fights Robinson had it's hard not to think he didn't fight LaMota ten times lol
I would prefer not to see another fight but if It does happen I'm not going to miss it.
Um... no. No, it won't.
I know the 'Flo-mo' and 'Pac-t*rd' stuff can really make anyone who spends too much time on boxing/sports message boards cynical about that fight, but that really would have been one of the all-time hyped match-ups in boxing, so let's not go crazy here and diminish what that fight could have/should have been just because it's fun to mock one guy or the other.
That said, will Pac/Marquez V (should it happen, and I really hope it doesn't) do good numbers? Quite possibly. I don't know what the promotion will consist of after they promised that 'THIS FIGHT WILL SETTLE IT!', just like they promised III would 'FINALLY SETTLE IT!', only difference here is that IV actually seemed like it settled it.
There is no weird judging controversey of a 'maybe' victory here. Pacquiao got KO'ed in dramatic Ricky Hatton fashion here. This wasn't some ticky tack ref over protection KO. This was 'I don't know if he wakes up before Christmas' KO.
That being said, this is possibly Arum's only real draw left (outside of maybe a Bradley rematch) where he can really command a huge payday for Pacquiao and Marquez has a good bargaining position for even more cash in a rematch, too, so there is definitely money in this, and we all know that cash rules everything around, so...
Oh, final note... I hate the idea that Marquez 'owes' it Pac for another one because Pac did the same for him. Pac didn't give Marquez a rematch for Marquez's benefit. Those fights were arranged because they drew, they were one of the few decent alternatives to Mayweather, and Pac never once beat Marquez decisively.
You cannot say the same about what Marquez just did.
I love to watch a 5th fight..and I KNOW MARQUEZ WILL SAY YES...because he would still be getting millions..........and he is a gentleman..because pacquiao did the same for him.
I feel sorry for Rios, He was looking forward to his own payday for April, Now I think he would probably wait while the JMM V happens.
Meh Rios will get a big pay day soon enough Pac JMM 5 will do the biggest PPV buys EVER