Marquez is the New P4P King

Marquez is the king!

Since the ring had the number 1 spot vacant . Marquez should get it because how spectacular he won. Marquez number 1 for now. This has nothing to do with how big of a Marquez fan I am either lol

No, Mayweather is still still number one, he's sat on the throne for years and nobody has unseated him. The only knock against him is inactivity. How can you unseat a guy who doesn't want to fight and carefully picks his opponents when he does? Inactivity coupled with average/subpar performances SHOULD knock you down. Big KO victories over great fighters SHOULD bring you up. p4p lists are all pretty much subjective though.

In my view, P4P rankings are based on a combination of achievements and ability. Knocking Pacquiao out was a great achievement for Marquez but it still doesn't make him a greater fighter P4P than Floyd, the man who dominated him. Also in many people's eyes he already beat Pacquiao last time around.

Anybody but Floyd, right? Lol

You must have forgot beating Manny is the determining factor of being great thats why Morales is better than Floyd cause he beat Manny NSB logic.

No, Mayweather is still still number one, he's sat on the throne for years and nobody has unseated him. The only knock against him is inactivity. I do place Marquez at number 2, had him at number 3 behind Ward before last night.

Oh I'm not hating. But here's the thing: Manny Pacquiao is coming off 3 sh*tty performances. #1 wasn't on the table even if you had a lamp with a genie in it. Keep in mind, I think Marquez won ALL 4 of their fights. I've always maintained that from the beginning. But if Marquez is #1 for a win over Pacquiao, the he's tied with Bradley who got the win first. Pacquiao was largely even at the top of any P4P list because of his wins over Marquez. Without those wins, he wouldn't have been there. Same with Bradley. Despite that some feel that Bradley lost, if you're going to recognize Pacquiao's status as a top P4Per despite the majority of fans feeling that Manny has lost just about 4 of the 4 fights, then Bradley is entitled to consideration. That is .. unless you believe in double standards? Dude JMM is number 1 and Floyd and bradley aren't it's not the end of the world. go out and get laid and get over it man

Why can't your brain fathom the fact that Marquez's win is more impressive than Floyds last fight or Wards? Why is it because they're black and Marquez is'nt. You're one of those guys that can't see it any other way because you convinced yourself that black American fighters are the best period! So your brain does'nt know how to deal with this new reality!! This is by far the dumbest post i've ever read on here. So me being able to appreciate fighters victories who aren't Mexican means i'm pro black and I don't like Mexicans? :lol1: Kill yourself.

We might as well add the other 2 guys that KO'd Manny to the list since that's all it takes.

yes, no doubt about it....

Destroying a Dawson, that was coming down in weight to fight in Wards hometown and going life and death with cotto isnt as impressive as going up in weight to knock Pacquiao out cold. the Froch win was solid, the ortiz sucker punch was mediocre If you disagree make your case. Wouldn't say he went life and death with Cotto but yeah Marquez last two wins over Pacquaio is certainly better than anything Mayweather has done in years and ever. Problem is Mayweather dominant win over Marquez means most will be reluctant to rank him ahead of him.

Marquez went up 3 lbs from the last time they fought last year so don't act like it was big jump in weight. If Cotto winning 2 rds is going life and death even though Floyd went up in weight then ok. Marquez last 4 wins are Manny,Fedchenko,Ramos & Katisdis; Floyds last 4 wins Cotto,Ortiz,Mosley & Marquez; Ward last 4 wins,Dawson,Froch,Abraham,Green. It doesn't take genius to figure who's better. Let's be real Manny hasn't looked good in the ring since he beat Cotto 3 years ago.

This is where you lost me. Destroying a Dawson, that was coming down in weight to fight in Wards hometown and going life and death with cotto isnt as impressive as going up in weight to knock Pacquiao out cold. the Froch win was solid, the ortiz sucker punch was mediocre If you disagree make your case Any Mexican with a pulse is P4P king on your list. No, that's stupid if you're not going to add anything to my thread please leave.

Marquez should go up but to #1 nope.

I know Pacquiao wasn't number 1, but he was on the list, just for that, I wouldn't even be mad if JMM got the number 1 spot. This is undeniable.

Marquez just went up in weight again at 40 to knock out an ATG putting an end to one of boxing greatest rivalries. Last year he went up 2 weightclasses to best the same ATG and was robbed of his 5th division championship. Ward and Floyd's wins recently havent been as impressive. Floyd might be greater but recently he hasn't done anything noteworthy. There's a real argument for Ward deserving the #1 spot but he had all the advantages against Dawson. Pacquiao had all the advantages against Marquez age, speed, size, etc. Marquez knocking out Pacquiao, and besting him last year > Ward's wins over a weight drained Dawson and Froch even if it doesn't last long, Marquez is the # 1 P4P and Ward is #2 as of right now. Edit: I would prefer if Floyd fans didn't come in to troll or infest this thread. Disagreeing is okay but keep it civil This is where you lost me.

He's number one for me with Ward second. I can't put Mayweather second as it's unfair to Ward who went actively through his division compared to Floyd who fights once a year (if that).

CAn't disagree with this but all I want is a 5th fight.

I find it funny how Floyd & and Andre Wards win's aren't impressive; but beating a over the hill Manny is the win that gets you to P4P #1. Hell of win I won't rain on his parade but even with this win he's not best P4P in sport not even close. What it did was show he's falt out better than Manny.