Golden Boy is taking over as the top boxing promoter

GBP has the better Roster...BY FAR!

Top Rank has built fighters from the beginning to major PPV stars GBP doesn't even have 1 they have mares though? he's at least a rising ppv star that gbp have had since the beginning..same with canelo...unless mares leaves gbp to chase a fight with donaire.

Light Speed forgot to add one thing GBP has over TR their **** in his mouth....who f'kin cares. The fact is that TR is a good promotional compnay like gb. but now with Hausers articles coming out about the whole usada, mayweather, morales, quillin etc, if its true, you will see fighters leaving that company imo

JMM is listed in the Top Rank page. Even his last non-Pacquiao fight was a Top Rank PPV. Chavez is also with Zanfer, but is still with Top Rank. As far as title holders, TR has Donaire, Rigo, Bradley, JMM, Roman Martinez, and Salido. And pacquiao might as well be a champion without a belt. Guerrero was also in negotiations with a Floyd fight! He's hardly a cash cow. Doubt UK money is THAT significant. Khan isn't fighting on PPV in the UK. Obviously if he fought Floyd, there would be lots money, but he's not. Plus he's coming off a couple loses, including a KO. He has no belt. His stock is way down. If Khan was a cashcow, Garcia would be begging to fight him again like Martinez and Froch are salivating over those Chavez and Bute rematches. They're all with Zanfer but I think JMM's and Salido's relationship with TR is different than Chavez's. I think they deal with TR on a fight by fight basis whereas Chavez is under some sort of contract. Forgot about Martinez. Ok I'll grant you these 3 but then we have to count Chris John for GB, so that's 12 title holders against 6 for TR. Guerrero was negotiating with Floyd? When? :thinking: Floyd dismissed him as an opponent several times. Khan is still a big star in the UK. I don't know if his fights are still on ppv over there but I guarantee you his next fight will still do big numbers. He's still one of the most lucrative opponents in boxing. Garcia will fight Khan again if Khan keeps winning, GB probably wants to rebuild Khan a little bit before cashing him out in a rematch. To be honest, it looks more like Al Haymon is "taking over" boxing more than anything/anyone else. That's very true and it's concerning. Gamboa vs Lopez isn't Top Rank fault at all. That lies 100% on Lopez. Quote from Arum : “If I have to wait until 2011, that’s what I’ll do,” Arum said. “I don’t want to make this fight too early because then that’s taking money out of these kids’ pockets.” http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/13032012/58/arum-erred-deferring-lopez-gamboa-bout.html Bob the chef let it marinate too long and it turned into Hell's kitchen. As long as DeBouf and Bruce Trampler are around they will always be a Top player. Trampler hands down the best match maker in boxing and one of, if not the greatest of all time. Also DeBouf has a tremedous eye for talent as he was the guy who got Cotto and various other fighters to sign as soon as they turned pro. I also like DeBouf anyways as he will work with anyone and is very well respected amongst boxers, other promoters and managers. They do have a great eye for talent but right now, GB has the most talent. I think tide has turned...

Top Rank has built fighters from the beginning to major PPV stars GBP doesn't even have 1 theyve built mares into a major star, though due to him fighting in the lower, less lucrative weight classes it would be a bold move to put him on ppv people fail to recognize two things: 1. gbp takes risks with their fighters and is willing to match them against any fighter signed with any promotional company. this may be a bad thing if the fighter isnt as talented as he's looked (mitchell, katsidis, linares, juan diaz) but it does allow us to measure the true quality fo these fighters. they did a great job with jmm, mares and guerrero whom were actually talented enough to deliver. hell one wouldnt argue they threw mares to the lions and many people are looking at him as the real deal because of it 2. al haymon prefers to work with gbp over other companies and many of these match ups are actually instigated by him. bob arum hates haymon's guts, maybe more so than he does odlh so the two will likely never work together in any way. this adds more fuel to the fire in regards to the feud

Top Rank has built fighters from the beginning to major PPV stars GBP doesn't even have 1 Top Rank and GBP are about even right now in terms of ppv numbers (Pac-Bradley + Martinez-JCC Jr vs Floyd-Cotto) with Pac - Marquez 4 on the way. That fight will do at least 1 mill and when was the last time GBP sold more PPV's in a year than Top Rank? I don't see GBP selling more than Top Rank any time soon In terms of future stars its whoever can promote who better And belts don't mean much when all the fights are in house Insert zombie voice here: *i must defend uncle bob with my life* *i must defend uncle bob with my life* *i must defend uncle bob with my life*

The only ones they are truly careful with right now is Canelo, and that's knowing that he was about to fight Kirkland and Paul Williams until things happened. To an extent Danny Garcia with him fighting Morales twice and now Judah. But Khan was a pretty stiff challenge and I hear he might get Mattysse next. IF they put Garcia in with Lucas i'll be shocked. Unless they realsie Garcia will get beaten pretty soon and hope try and build a killer like Lucas. I think if Lucas gets the right break he could become a mega star with his style and power.

All in all, I think it's the beginning of the end for TR. Not sure what it means for the sport of boxing as a whole. Your thoughts? Meh... who cares as long as good fights happen

Golden Boy has the big names indeed. I like how they operate for the most part, they aren't as bad as other companies. I mean look at how fast they are bringing Angulo back into the mix. That's really good stuff. My only issue is with their corruption surrounding drug tests right now. I don't like that one bit. Yea it's BS only Mayweather is allowed to test Postive

Golden Boy has been on top for the past 8 years

I agree, GBP are taking over and sticking it to Top Rank on the regular. However, since when was Khan a cash cow?! Haha, they gave away more tickets to his last fight than they sold, and that was against an unbeaten world champ who, I suspect, sold the most tickets. Fck Khan, he's a nobody. Overhyped.

To be honest, it looks more like Al Haymon is "taking over" boxing more than anything/anyone else. The absolute worst thing that could ever happen to boxing. Talk about sh1t fight after sh1t fight on tv. Berto entire career. Russell Jr fighting sh1tty fights. Forcing Seth mitchell down peoples throat. Hyping up the buffet king chris arreola and basically numerous fights that shouldn't even be on ESPN FNF's some how being HBO head liners. Haymon is a cancer to the sport, but I guess it's good for his fighters as the get million dollar paydays while fighting bum/sh1tty fighters.

I think GBP did a great job with Canelo, he's got a lot of buzz around him and does great numbers without having beaten a single elite fighter. He's a bigger draw than a guy like Brando Rios for example, who's about the same age and has been in the ring with dangerous opponents. Canelo and Mares are two fighters that GBP are doing a great job at developing. They get a ton of props from me on that. They just need to continue to do that with other fighters and be more consistent as far as building fighters up. I don't think GBP's matchmaking skills are bad, again look at what they're doing with Canelo. TR let the Gamboa/Lopez fight marinate too long and Lopez got knocked out twice, that's not good matchmaking. Jose Benavidez got a near death experience in his last fight, one more shot and he would be TR's version of Linares. Gamboa vs Lopez isn't Top Rank fault at all. That lies 100% on Lopez. Dude is a puzzy and I'm glad Salido sparked him out twice. Think about it for a second....whenever Top Rank has two top fighters in the same division....when has a fight not happened. Carbajal vs Gonzalez Morales vs Barrera Pacquiao vs Marquez Gamboa vs Salido and the list goes on and on. So out of all the occasions, only once has a fight not happened. Gamboa was game, it was in house and made a ton of sense....but you can tell that Juanma is doing what Donaire is doing to Rigo. If a fighter from Top Rank wants a fight....it will happen. especially if it's in house. TR will always be a player but the question is, will they be the TOP player? I don't think so. As long as DeBouf and Bruce Trampler are around they will always be a Top player. Trampler hands down the best match maker in boxing and one of, if not the greatest of all time. Also DeBouf has a tremedous eye for talent as he was the guy who got Cotto and various other fighters to sign as soon as they turned pro. I also like DeBouf anyways as he will work with anyone and is very well respected amongst boxers, other promoters and managers.

Seth Mitchell and Berto just lost though. Devon Alexander and Rico Ramos lost too. Heck even when Berto lost the first time, the influence of Al Haymon kept getting stronger and stronger.

To be honest, it looks more like Al Haymon is "taking over" boxing more than anything/anyone else. Seth Mitchell and Berto just lost though.

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To be honest, it looks more like Al Haymon is "taking over" boxing more than anything/anyone else.

I think GBP did a great job with Canelo, he's got a lot of buzz around him and does great numbers without having beaten a single elite fighter. He's a bigger draw than a guy like Brando Rios for example, who's about the same age and has been in the ring with dangerous opponents. I don't think GBP's matchmaking skills are bad, again look at what they're doing with Canelo. TR let the Gamboa/Lopez fight marinate too long and Lopez got knocked out twice, that's not good matchmaking. Jose Benavidez got a near death experience in his last fight, one more shot and he would be TR's version of Linares. TR will always be a player but the question is, will they be the TOP player? I don't think so. Khan is a cash cow if you take into account the money he generates in the UK. There's a reason why he was in negotiations to fight Floyd. Marquez is not with Top Rank, he's with Zanfer promotions, they just make a deal with TR whenever he fights Pacquiao. From a commercial standpoint there's no difference between a legit champ and a strap holder. So 11 to 3 is pretty significant. JMM is listed in the Top Rank page. Even his last non-Pacquiao fight was a Top Rank PPV. Chavez is also with Zanfer, but is still with Top Rank. As far as title holders, TR has Donaire, Rigo, Bradley, JMM, Roman Martinez, and Salido. And pacquiao might as well be a champion without a belt. Khan is a cash cow if you take into account the money he generates in the UK. There's a reason why he was in negotiations to fight Floyd. Guerrero was also in negotiations with a Floyd fight! He's hardly a cash cow. Doubt UK money is THAT significant. Khan isn't fighting on PPV in the UK. Obviously if he fought Floyd, there would be lots money, but he's not. Plus he's coming off a couple loses, including a KO. He has no belt. His stock is way down. If Khan was a cashcow, Garcia would be begging to fight him again like Martinez and Froch are salivating over those Chavez and Bute rematches.

What? GB put their young guys in with threats all the time, if anything they are not careful enough compared to top rank. Some of tho GB fighters have been matched tough while others clearly haven't.

What? GB put their young guys in with threats all the time, if anything they are not careful enough compared to top rank. The only ones they are truly careful with right now is Canelo, and that's knowing that he was about to fight Kirkland and Paul Williams until things happened. To an extent Danny Garcia with him fighting Morales twice and now Judah. But Khan was a pretty stiff challenge and I hear he might get Mattysse next.