Carl Froch gives a very frank and open account of his fight against Andre Ward. He even says he didn't see the fight as close as two of the judges who scored it 115-113 to Ward. However, Froch is determined to get the rematch. With renewed tactics and a camp orientated towards Ward's brand of fighting, Froch firmly believes he has what it takes to beat him.
His motivation...
"We're talking pound for pound, we're talking Legendary Status. Why wouldn't I want to fight him again?"
Ward segment at 5:30
Both Ward and Dirrell were holding Froch a lot in the fight, particularly in the latter rounds, so Froch was trying to fight out of the hold. The way you perceive it is that Froch was "being dirty", but it could easily be argued that Ward and Dirrel were "being dirty" by excessively holding.
When trying to fight out of a hold, you might aim for the side of the head but often will land on the back of it.
On the other side of the coin, Froch did a Judo throw on Dirrell when he was clinging onto him - that was a deliberately dirty move, but it was out of the frustration of being held so much.
Froch is a dirty fighter, being held is not a justification for intentional fouls. It's ok though, I'm not as obsessed with fouls as most people here. Rough house tactics are part of the game.
Froch on the other hand was very, and I mean very dirty against Dirrel. I remember that fight standing out.
But you can't deny that Froch didn't hurt Ward with rabbit punches. I saw Ward's knees buckle a few times, but the announcers just never spoke on it. But the punches were clearly/blatantly, not accidentally, but blatantly landed to the back of the head repeatedly, which makes it kind of dirty.
Both Ward and Dirrell were holding Froch a lot in the fight, particularly in the latter rounds, so Froch was trying to fight out of the hold. The way you perceive it is that Froch was "being dirty", but it could easily be argued that Ward and Dirrel were "being dirty" by excessively holding.
When trying to fight out of a hold, you might aim for the side of the head but often will land on the back of it.
On the other side of the coin, Froch did a Judo throw on Dirrell when he was clinging onto him - that was a deliberately dirty move, but it was out of the frustration of being held so much.
I'm not sure if people saw it or not, but Froch actually hurt Ward a few times in the fight with his rabbit punches to the back of the head.
If Froch wins the next fight with Ward, it will be because of these type rough house tactics and nothing else.
I guess it's a case of when in Rome... I mean Ward's rough house tactics aren't exactly the world's best kept secret. He landed so many headbutts on Kessler he almost made Bradley look like a clean fighter.
Ward's rough house tactics are pretty much common knowledge by now, I don't think anyone can claim he's somehow a clean fighter.
And Ward had an injured left hand. What do people think would happen against a more experienced, 100% healthy Ward? Not to mention Froch isn't getting any younger.
Idk why but Froch and others always forget how badly Ward was injured, I mean a broken hand is a big deal especially since he broke it just before the fight. It's not like he broke it in the 12th, it hurt him so bad he could barely hit the mitts a few days before the fight.
I don't think Froch is good enough to beat Ward no matter how he prepares for the fight. Ward is 28 years old and still improving. Froch is 35 years old and no matter how hard he trains he is old for a boxer and getting older. Froch is sloppy and slow compared to Ward. Ward is a complete boxer with a decent punch. Froch is game and tough with a good punch but he does not have the tools to beat Ward.
If the first fight was close I would be interested...but the first fight was so one-sided, Froch did absolutely NOTHING to make anyone believe he has a chance in a rematch...not even a punchers chance because he is too slow to land clean with that Power
And Ward had an injured left hand. What do people think would happen against a more experienced, 100% healthy Ward? Not to mention Froch isn't getting any younger.
If the first fight was close I would be interested...but the first fight was so one-sided, Froch did absolutely NOTHING to make anyone believe he has a chance in a rematch...not even a punchers chance because he is too slow to land clean with that Power
The last 5 rouds of the Ward fight was the only time I have ever seen Ward being matched.
Froch has a better chance of beating Wrad then anyone from LH and down
If Froch beats Mack and Bute, a Ward rematch makes as much sense as any.
While I believe Froch is capable of performing much better, I doubt he could beat Ward on his best day. He has a punchers chance and that's about it.
Still a rematch next Autumn would be welcome. Two great fighters.
what punchers chance? he hit ward with his best shot and couldnt hurt him.
i agree there arent too many other fights that make sense for ward atm though. but froch is gonna have to beat kessler as well if he wants ward imo. even though i scored the fight for froch its officially a loss and you cant have unavenged losses to fighters of kesslers caliber if you want to sell a fight with someone like ward.
Froch is the sh*t but I wish he and Kessler would stop trying to pretend they want to fight Ward.
Carl is a warrior so there's a chance he may want to avenge it. But the idea that Kessler wants to fight Ward again is laughable.
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agreed. i do think froch wants it but kessler is full of s hit. he was high on his own hype and ward took him back down to earth by outclassing and humiliating him, he never managed to get over that.
Froch and Kessler are getting annoying. Ward is on another level. They need to fight each other again before they deserve another shot. Ward will beat them both on his worst night. Ward should go ahead with the Pavlik fight. At least we haven't seen it yet and it would be another name to add to his resume.