Ward beat Froch the first time out but people forget that was the closest fight Ward has ever been in and he really just won it by the skin of his teeth. Froch won most (if not all) of the championship rounds, and two of the judges scored it 115-113 to Ward which means that Ward won by only 2 rounds on their cards - had Froch won only one more round on each of those judges scorecards, the fight would have been ruled a majority draw!
So how would the fight go down in the UK with Froch having the home advantage this time around? Does Froch beat Ward in another close fight or would Ward do enough to win it?
Quick update. Froch's promoter, Barry Hearn, said this after the Froch vs Mack fight tonight :
"Carl Froch would beat Andre Ward in the UK."
Just a promoter building up hype, or would Ward crumble under the pressure of being in the lions den for once?
Froch beats him, likely by stoppage. If not by stoppage, it'll be a UD
If you truly believe this, you need to change your moniker from Mathed to Meth head
Slight difference between fighting in AC and fighting in front of a rabid Nottingham crowd cheering Froch's every punch wouldn't you say?
I think Ward probably wins regardless but it's definitely going to be a tougher fight in the UK (or Denmark for Kessler).Well, my friend, you're making an entirely different point. You're a true fan who just wants to see the fight in Froch's backyard. You're not the one screaming that Ward's never been out of his comfort zone unlike other posters. I just disagree that Ward would be affected at all, in the amateurs (Yes, I know it's different) he fought allover the place and that was before he matured into an experienced pro boxer. Given the level of a fighter Ward is, and the focus, poise and mental toughness he's shown, I can't picture a louder crowd affecting him, it's going to take a helluva lot more then that to throw Ward off his game, and I think that's more or less been proven by now. That's all I'm saying.
CCRS. (Conveniently Can't Remember ****), seriously though, although the fight wasn't in Froch's backyard, it wasn't in Ward's backyard either, so YES he was out of his comfort zone when you consider Atlantic City, NJ is roughly 3000 miles away from California, and there's a 3 hour time difference. So, this bulls.hit that people keep spewing that Ward's never been out of his comfort zone is literally a boldfaced lie
Slight difference between fighting in AC and fighting in front of a rabid Nottingham crowd cheering Froch's every punch wouldn't you say?
I think Ward probably wins regardless but it's definitely going to be a tougher fight in the UK (or Denmark for Kessler).
Froch beats him, likely by stoppage. If not by stoppage, it'll be a UDYou have GOT to be trolling, mathed. You're a good poster, and I'm well aware you have a blatant dislike for Ward, but this?.....This, is beyond pushing it. Just stop man, you're literally on the cusp of trolling with this blatant hate. That's the equivalent of me saying that Chavez beats Martinez in a rematch, or Pavlik would etc. That pisses you off doesn't it? It should, because it's horses.hit, just like what you said was horses.hit. I'm a Froch fan, but he was utterly outclassed for at LEAST 9 of 12 rounds.
And, as I mentioned before, their fight may have taken place in America, but Ward was 3000 miles away from his home state, along with a 3 hour time difference AND a proven broken hand, he was WAY out of his comfort zone, what does the fight happening in England change, dude? Seriously, answer me that, mathed. It's a complete joke. You're better then these idiotic comments, bro.
Ever since Ward walked over Dawson and creeped up on Martinez' spot on the P4P lists, you've been getting more sour then ever when the name Ward is mentioned. They're both great fighters who should at the very least be ranked evenly given the fact that their resumes are roughly equal and the way they've dominated opposition. You could even argue Ward's resume is better then Martinez' when factoring in how many more fights Martinez has and how much Ward's accomplished in a short 26 fight career, but that's an entirely different discussion that I could care less to debate.
how so? Froch is not fast enough to catch up with Ward
Froch will be on another level this time. He was sluggish and up tight...in front of his own crowd, he will be a monster like he was against Bute.
Well I would say no, I don't think Froch is really capable of beating Ward anywhere.
Still Froch to win only needs to win 7 rounds (maybe 6) on two of the judges card, and with the subjective nature of judging fights it is not really impossible as long as Froch can limit Ward's effective offense.You just never know what the judges will see in a tough to score fight.
I doubt froch would ever beat ward at any point in his career...ward is just on a different level...and lets not forget ward beat him with a broken hand
It's come to something when myself and Kev are in agreement.
This is what I don't comprehend about this topic. Pretty much all of us are in agreement that Ward won the fight by a comfortable majority.... yet the JUDGES had it a close fight (two of them at least, which is all that counts for a final card).
If Froch had been able to just shade ONE more round (which wasn't impossible that night) then he would have been able to draw with Ward ON THE CARDS.
Agreed.
Also, it was 1 American judge, 1 Canadian judge, one UK judge. The UK judge had it 118-110 for Ward. That's about as weird as it gets.
CCRS. (Conveniently Can't Remember ****), seriously though, although the fight wasn't in Froch's backyard, it wasn't in Ward's backyard either, so YES he was out of his comfort zone when you consider Atlantic City, NJ is roughly 3000 miles away from California, and there's a 3 hour time difference. So, this bulls.hit that people keep spewing that Ward's never been out of his comfort zone is literally a boldfaced lie. Ward fought 3000 miles away from his hometown, with a 3 hour time difference, and with a proven broken left hand, and still dominated handily. There's no debate about this, none whatsoever. The fight being in England would make **** all of a damn difference.
Also, No, Froch did not give Ward his toughest fight, Bika did arguably. A fight you've clearly never seen if you thought Froch gave him a harder fight. I love Froch, but let's get real. God, the delusional behavior of some NSB posters are astonishing.
Ward's dominated everyone he's fought with ease, it doesn't matter when where or how, Ward is too mentally tough and secure, too poised and focused, too skilled and too good to be affected by something like that.
End of.
People also forget the scorecards of 115-113 on two judges. Atlantic City was pretty much another country for Ward, that's how he was treated on the scorecards. A fight where he won at least 9-3, 8-4 pushing it; judges felt like making it seem a closer fight than it really was.
Same thing with B-Hop vs Calzaghe, close fight where the foreigner got the decision. Foreign fans just don't understand that U.S. is a lot different when it comes to hometown decisions.
CCRS. (Conveniently Can't Remember ****), seriously though, although the fight wasn't in Froch's backyard, it wasn't in Ward's backyard either, so YES he was out of his comfort zone when you consider Atlantic City, NJ is roughly 3000 miles away from California, and there's a 3 hour time difference. So, this bulls.hit that people keep spewing that Ward's never been out of his comfort zone is literally a boldfaced lie. Ward fought 3000 miles away from his hometown, with a 3 hour time difference, and with a proven broken left hand, and still dominated handily. There's no debate about this, none whatsoever. The fight being in England would make **** all of a damn difference.
Also, No, Froch did not give Ward his toughest fight, Bika did arguably. A fight you've clearly never seen if you thought Froch gave him a harder fight. I love Froch, but let's get real. God, the delusional behavior of some NSB posters are astonishing.
Ward's dominated everyone he's fought with ease, it doesn't matter when where or how, Ward is too mentally tough and secure, too poised and focused, too skilled and too good to be affected by something like that.
End of.
Andre Ward and I took your soul on November 21st, 2009...so you are not worthy of my response...
How do you like THAT answer?....lol....or should I post all the topics where it happened for proof of Ownership?
Ward should just retire. There's noone left to fight. He's that good. :ugh::ugh:
Two questions:
1: Do you think Ward will ever fight outside the US?
2: If Froch and Kessler is unworthy of a shot at Ward then who is? Pavlik? LOL.
Andre Ward and I took your soul on November 21st, 2009...so you are not worthy of my response...
How do you like THAT answer?....lol....or should I post all the topics where it happened for proof of Ownership?