Froch wants to fight Andre Ward in the UK

By Scott Gilfoid: Having failed miserably in his previous attempt at trying to beat the talented WBA/WBC super middleweight Andre Ward, IBF super middleweight champion Carl Froch is kicking around the idea of facing Ward a second time, but only in the UK. Froch says he fought Ward once in the USA, and now he wants Ward to return the favor by agreeing to fight him in the UK where Froch lives. And get this, Froch thinks he can beat Ward over there. Froch said to Sky Sports News “If I can get the fight with Andre Ward it would be a massive fight and that would secure my legacy. I think I can win that fight, I really do, but let’s get it in England. I went over to the USA to fight him, let’s get him over here.” Sorry, Froch, it doesn’t work that way. Ward already whipped you once, and he’s considered to be the best fighter in the super middleweight division, not you. As such, if you want Ward to try and elevate your legacy, you got to come to Oakland, California and fight him in front of his own loyal Bay Area fans. That’s how it works. I hate to be the one to drizzle on your dream, but it’s not happening. Froch was easily beaten by Ward last December in the Super Six finals in a 12 round decision loss, and it really wasn’t a competitive fight in the slightest. Ward thrashed Froch with a broken left hand and still made it look easy. Despite the bold talk from Froch, he doesn’t really sound all that committed to a Ward rematch, saying to Sky Sports News “I think we’d prefer a rematch with Kessler because that’s a fight for the fans and for the television.” Does that sound like someone that badly wants to fight Ward? Froch is already making excuses for why he might not fight Ward. I think boxing fans want to see Froch avenge the schooling that he got from Ward much more than the schooling he got from Kessler, but that’s me. The Kessler-Froch fight was a lot closer than the Froch-Ward fight, which wasn’t close. Kessler still beat Froch, but you could say that fight was close. Why wouldn’t Froch want to try and fight the guy that really whipped him rather than the fighter that he was competitive with? My advice for Froch is not to fight Ward all if he’s concerned with his precious legacy. The only thing Ward will do is beat Froch worse in a rematch, and that would really screw things up for Froch with legacy. He’d have to stick around for a few more years to try and make up for the Ward loss, and if he tried to fight him a third time, it would only get worse. I’m just wondering how a Ward-Froch fight would go if it were to take place in Nottingham. We saw how Froch was able to win a decision against the talented Andre Dirrell while fighting in Nottingham in the Super Six tournament in 2009. Dirrell appeared to easily beat Froch, yet Froch was given the decision in a fight where he appeared to lost 8 rounds. Could the same thing happen with Ward if he were to go to the UK to fight Froch? I don’t know but all we have to go by is the past, and I don’t think Ward is going to want to take a risk that he might get jobbed too like Dirrell. I hope Froch isn’t counting on Ward agreeing to fight him in the UK, because I think he’s be sadly disappointed when Ward says no to that. Ward saw the Dirrell-Froch fight too, and he and his trainer Virgil Hunter both had Dirrell winning that fight. You think Ward will want to go to the UK, totally dominate Froch from start to finish, and then walk out of the ring a loser? No way, and that’s why that fight won’t happen, at least in the UK. Instead of trying to map out his future fights, Froch should be worrying about his next opponent Yusaf Mack. If Froch can’t beat Mack on November 17th, then he’s going to look silly afterwards given all his big talk about his rematches against Ward, Mikkel Kessler and Lucian Bute. http://www.************.com/2012/10/froch-wants-to-fight-andre-ward-in-the-uk-thinks-he-can-beat-him/

Comments (20)

lol bro who do you think you're kidding? I'll tell you what, go tell Campillo, Zaveck, Matthysse, Martinez, Pacquiao etc your theory. Add Abril and Lara to that list. Wait..what? ''Beating the Yusuf Macks''? You're talking about a guy who has for the last 4 or 5 years fought non stop top class opposition and he fights one tune up after 8 or 9 straight world class opponents and you say ''beating the Yusuf Macks''??? :D What an utter retard you really are. Like the guy your debating with said, if Froch beats Bute and Kessler in both rematches after this one tune up fight he takes then of course he's earnt another shot at Ward, no matter how the first fight went. Wether people are interested or not is not his problem. People can fck off for all he cares. His job is not to worry about what people are interested in. His job is to earn another shot at the best fighter in the division, and beating Bute and Kessler will do that, unless of course Kelly Pavlik beating a couple more of ESPN Friday night fight opponents put him ahead of Froch in earning a shot at Ward? I don't care if he fought top opposition for 100 fights straight, he could have chosen a better opponent than Mack. Bika was available. Beating a guy who's unproven at the elite level (and whom he already destroyed) and a guy that was thoroughly dominated by Ward is enough for Froch to earn a rematch? Hell no. It does matter how the first fight went, it's usually the number one reason why rematches happen. Viewers interest doesn't matter? Yeah it's not like boxing is a spectator sport and the business model is built around TV ratings. And you have the nerve to call me a retard lol. :pat:

13y ago

ShoulderRoll

How much money is Froch willing to offer Ward to go over there? Let's hear some numbers.

13y ago

blackink

As much as i don't see Froch winning a rematch against Ward, but IF he beats Bute AND Kessler after Mack, i don't see how anybody else has deserved a shot at Ward over Froch. Froch has arguably the best resume at 168 besides Ward. He's had the toughest schedule of any fighter in all boxing in the past 3-4 years. I'd like to see Wards fanboys justify a Pavlik match. It's fucking laughable that they'd accept that match over another Froch fight providing he gets passed the next few hurdles. Another thing, this article is filled with so much hate it's unbelievable. So much shit spewed with bias. What a cunt of a man.

13y ago

yoz

13y ago

Pullcounter7451

c'mon guy, getting ward to fight outside of the westcoast is like getting a man to stop staring at tig ole bitties... ***** ain't happenin

13y ago

Boxing_Bob

The British national pride is commendable but Froch couldn't beat Ward in Wembley with Frochs relatives as the judges. Does he deserve a rematch? HELL YES. Outside of Ward himself, Froch has the best resume at 168 with or without the Bute and Kessler rematches

13y ago

TheThirdEye

http://images.clubzone.com/images/upload/9z8gstyx.jpg Adonis Stevenson will win the IBF title Early in october, Andre Ward claimed he would fight the winner; between Don George & Adonis Stevenson. But right after the October 12 bout for the IBF number #1 spot, Team Ward called out Kelly Pavlik to settle a fight early in 2013. - Instead of taking Adonis Stevenson, he decided to take an easier rival, by choosing Pavlik... ► You might not believe it, but ANDRE WARD PUNKED OUT... Now that Adonis Stevenson proved he got chin, he got stamina and could overclock his power and speed til the 12th round, with an injured hand which broke Donovan ribs; All this makes Ward run out, and the mandatory opponent for the IBF title Carl Froch, NOW claimed he would gladly fight Ward again, early 2013 in UK... You have some Bute and some Froch supporters dreaming to see a Froch-Bute 2, because Bute & Froch clan claimed the original contract has a clause for a rematch. ► So what ! Look, the contract was good for a rematch on September 2012, and it got pushed for December 2012, and now they tried to neutralize the 9 month IBF mandatory defense date by scheduling the rematch for march 23, 2013; Is that a B... ► If it's not avoiding Adonis Stevenson, how do you call that. Anyway, on May 2012, Adonis Stevenson was listed 2nd in the IBF ranking, and the 1st spot was vacant, which was the reason why Bute could pick an opponent, and choose the number 5th spot; Carl Froch. ► But now Stevenson have the 1st spot, the IBF will ask Froch to fight Stevenson, and no Bute "modificationable" contract could change that. Check this out; since back in Febuary 2012, Stevenson was calling out Bute, but Bute was punking out til Froch took his title. For the November 2012 bout, Adonis Stevenson claimed he would gladly face Froch in UK, but Froch decided to pick Yusaf Mack instead, Froch punked out too... ................... - I understand your feelings guys, but you all should think straight now: There will be NO Froch vs Ward fight so far... There will be NO Froch vs Bute fight so far... ■ When Stevenson called out Bute, Bute punked out. ■ When Froch claimed he wanted a fighter for November 2012, he avoided Stevenson. ■ When Ward claimed he would fight the winner between Stevenson & George fight for January 2013, he quicly avoid Stevenson by asking to fight the drunken master Pav.... There will be a Froch vs Stevenson fight on Feb or March 2013... That's the reality now... ► Bute will do everything to never be confronted to Stevenson, and Froch will desperately lie to show he's not a coward, by never mentionning the name of Stevenson. Do you understand that ? Adonis Stevenson is Faster ►►►

13y ago

Dirk_Diggler_UK

The US isn't known for robbing foreigners like other countries are... U can certainly find some examples of US fighters winning controversial decisions over foreigners, but that is all due to the only color that matters in the US, GREEN... Its star potential, not citizenship Numerous foreign fighters have been robbed or treated unfairly in the US in recent years. I dont really put much stock into where the fight is held. To me, Ward won his fights fair and square despite some dirty tactics. I just think it'd be interesting to see him taken out of his comfort zone. It'd be another notch on his belt if he were to go to Nottingham and beat Froch as or more convincingly as he did the first time.

13y ago

jhon123

i have zero interest in a rematch, ward dominated the first fight,i can just about give carl two rounds on my scorecard, in the rematch ward will dominate more

13y ago

JDezi4

uh do you even watch boxing? it's been non-stop robberies there in the last 12 months. Nice job cutting out the rest of my comment in order to preserve the quality of ur argument :sleeping:

13y ago

Roy_Jones_Jnr

A guy who was untested at the elite level. Froch lost a near shut out to Ward, he's got a LOT of work to do if he wants to get people interested in a rematch. Bika is more deserving of a rematch right now lol. Speaking of which, Froch could fight Bika and Kessler and if he beats them impressively then he can call out Ward. Beating the Yusaf Macks won't get him anywhere. Wait..what? ''Beating the Yusuf Macks''? You're talking about a guy who has for the last 4 or 5 years fought non stop top class opposition and he fights one tune up after 8 or 9 straight world class opponents and you say ''beating the Yusuf Macks''??? :D What an utter retard you really are. Like the guy your debating with said, if Froch beats Bute and Kessler in both rematches after this one tune up fight he takes then of course he's earnt another shot at Ward, no matter how the first fight went. Wether people are interested or not is not his problem. People can fck off for all he cares. His job is not to worry about what people are interested in. His job is to earn another shot at the best fighter in the division, and beating Bute and Kessler will do that, unless of course Kelly Pavlik beating a couple more of ESPN Friday night fight opponents put him ahead of Froch in earning a shot at Ward?

13y ago

DanboSmitty

Nobody wants to see Ward get robbed after beating Froch's ass for 12 rounds.... Sh*t fight.... Why is your sig so ****ing big? No one cares and no one wants to scroll down to China to read the next comment. This isn't Bob Arum we are dealing with so if Ward bests him convincingly I don't see the location as much of a problem. Last fight they had was in Wards backyard why not allow the next one to be in Froch's it's only fair.

13y ago

DanboSmitty

It Froch sticks to his plan, Bute In Feb or March, then Kessler and gets through all that, then he definately deserves the shot to fight Ward again. Where the fight takes place shouldn't matter that much, it wasn't like they handed Ward the decision. With that said I bet it makes more money in the UK so why not?

13y ago

WESS

Nobody wants to see Ward get robbed after beating Froch's ass for 12 rounds.... Sh*t fight....

13y ago

El_Angel

I have a LOT of respect for Froch, but he couldn't beat him the first time when Ward had a broken hand. He should focus on beating Bute again, then maybe a Kessler rematch. He can win that one.

13y ago

Miburo

Hoping for a gift decision? Come on Froch, you should move on and go after Kessler.

13y ago

Weebler_I

The US isn't known for robbing foreigners like other countries are... uh do you even watch boxing? it's been non-stop robberies there in the last 12 months. The US is corrupt alright, but against its own fighters most of the time. lol bro who do you think you're kidding? I'll tell you what, go tell Campillo, Zaveck, Matthysse, Martinez, Pacquiao etc your theory. I think Ward's a great fighter and he would probably win the rematch but they pulled a sly one in the Super 6 with the venues and he should fight away from home at some point in his career since his opponents have had the good grace to travel.

13y ago

NEETzsche

no point in the rematch. we already know froch is not able to beat ward, it's a waste of time.

13y ago

Kev

Poor post. All the Super 6 fighters, North American and European bought into the concept of fighting home and away, even the champions...except Andre Ward who had every fight in his hometown except the final which was in his home country. That didn't matter. Ward got 115-113 twice vs Froch in Atlantic City. I don't know what fight were they watching that Froch won 5 rounds. Craig Mettcalfe is from Canada, John Stewart is from the US himself. The guy who had 118-110, John Keane, is actually from the UK. Look at the disgusting scorecard by John Stewart, look at Hopkins-Calzaghe in NJ, look at Whitaker against a Mexican on US soil. The US is corrupt alright, but against its own fighters most of the time.

13y ago

JDezi4

Poor post. All the Super 6 fighters, North American and European bought into the concept of fighting home and away, even the champions...except Andre Ward who had every fight in his hometown except the final which was in his home country. The US isn't known for robbing foreigners like other countries are... U can certainly find some examples of US fighters winning controversial decisions over foreigners, but that is all due to the only color that matters in the US, GREEN... Its star potential, not citizenship

13y ago