Why did filipinos disown brian viloria to claim donaire???

dont believe everything wikipedia tells you. Don't believe anything wikipedia says? but we should take your word for it? show us proof man.

http://www.ramarfoods.com/images/ban-longanisa1q.jpg lmfao what you gonna do with that, tickle her to death. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: Anyway, Filipino, American, Hawaiian, or whatever the ****, Viloria is the man, and is great for boxing.

He was born in Spain? dont believe everything wikipedia tells you.

See this goes right along with what im saying. Public opinion is largely driven by media. Just as viloria is viewed less favorably than donaire becausr of the media coverage or lack of by filipino media. Talk about cashingg in on ethnicity...batista is like 1/8th filipino. But dude got a tattoo of the flag and started saying how much he loved pacquiao and the filipino media ate it up. But I can tell you that this guy: http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Kane-wwe01.jpg is half filipino, born in the philippines, speaks 2dialects fluently, and is the translator for the wwe when in the country...yet noone in the country gives 2****s because he never "claimed" filipino heritage when interviewed. He was born in Spain?

Is that Kane? Yes it is. And I know this because I know him personally.

See this goes right along with what im saying. Public opinion is largely driven by media. Just as viloria is viewed less favorably than donaire becausr of the media coverage or lack of by filipino media. Talk about cashingg in on ethnicity...batista is like 1/8th filipino. But dude got a tattoo of the flag and started saying how much he loved pacquiao and the filipino media ate it up. But I can tell you that this guy: http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Kane-wwe01.jpg is half filipino, born in the philippines, speaks 2dialects fluently, and is the translator for the wwe when in the country...yet noone in the country gives 2****s because he never "claimed" filipino heritage when interviewed. Is that Kane? All I know is Undertaker walked him out once

This guy is more loved by filipinos than donaire and viloria and he is only half and doesn't even speak the language http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/440/450/batista-wwe-electricity_crop_650x440.jpg?1321044293 See this goes right along with what im saying. Public opinion is largely driven by media. Just as viloria is viewed less favorably than donaire becausr of the media coverage or lack of by filipino media. Talk about cashingg in on ethnicity...batista is like 1/8th filipino. But dude got a tattoo of the flag and started saying how much he loved pacquiao and the filipino media ate it up. But I can tell you that this guy: http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Kane-wwe01.jpg is half filipino, born in the philippines, speaks 2dialects fluently, and is the translator for the wwe when in the country...yet noone in the country gives 2****s because he never "claimed" filipino heritage when interviewed.

When did I say Viloria and donaire never spoke the language? I said Batista doesn't even speak the language. Learn reading comprehension bro. right, my bad. nah, as far as i know batista has some filipino blood (father side) but does not know the language, he's been to the philippines to promote some of his fights, aside from a few words, he knows nothing. batista is almost a household name, but donaire & villoria are much talked about in the philippines

"THE FIGHT is close to Viloria's heart. He knows all about being forced to choose sides. Some in the Philippines questioned why Viloria chose now to become Filipino, whether he was simply trying to cash in on a people desperate for heroes. Viloria put an end to that speculation in his home town, where cried in front of a gathering in his honor while defending his heritage. "How can I say I'm not Filipino when I look in the mirror every day and see a Filipino boy?" Viloria said in a 12-minute speech. "Filipinos see me as American and Americans see me as Filipino. Someday the world is going to get past that and it's not going to matter." http://archives.starbulletin.com/2005/10/19/sports/story02.html http://archives.starbulletin.com/2005/10/19/sports/art2a.jpg

both fighter speak the filipino language very fluently, even they can't hide it with their american accent. villoria knows his native tongue in ilocos, same with donaire also came from gen. santos city When did I say Viloria and donaire never spoke the language? I said Batista doesn't even speak the language. Learn reading comprehension bro.

This guy is more loved by filipinos than donaire and viloria and he is only half and doesn't even speak the language http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/440/450/batista-wwe-electricity_crop_650x440.jpg?1321044293 both fighter speak the filipino language very fluently, even they can't hide it with their american accent. villoria knows his native tongue in ilocos, same with donaire also came from gen. santos city

can't believe donaire and villoria fought at one point, wonder how a match could be made to do it again

This guy is more loved by filipinos than donaire and viloria and he is only half and doesn't even speak the language http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/440/450/batista-wwe-electricity_crop_650x440.jpg?1321044293

once again..what does claiming heritage have anything to do with anything??? Viloria is a fullblooded filipino regardless. Filipinos have jumped on the coattails of guys like tim lincecum who's only 1/4 filipino and has never openly claimed filipino heritage...just passing references when asked. So you're saying they're proud of half and quarter filipinos because they claim it while disrgarding full blooded ones as phonies because they dont talk about it. Ok..... Man who cares if Viloria is full blooded! the guy was never proud of his roots that is the point, someone can be a quarter filipino and be more filipino. As far as Tim Lincecum I never knew hew as Filipino that guy looks like a white hill billy. But he is in San Francisco a lot of filipinos there so someone probably leaked the info out and so of course those filipino giant fans will embrace him. But Viloria is Hawaiian, like I said you wouldn't even know he was Filipino if Pacquiao never came along that guy never mentioned it he was a big time Hawaiian pride guy. came to the ring with a grass skirt and hawaiian shirt and did the hula. He is not Filipino Punch he is Hawaiian punch. It works the same way for other countries who are proud like Mexicans and puerto ricans. they call out guys who are fake

i support both.. filipino's aint hating much on them..

How can I be a hypocrite when I basically said neither guy is really embraced? Donaire couldn't even sell out the home depot center in carson california which has a heavy filipino population. They also hated Donaire because of his feud with his pops. Viloria is considered a phoney by them though, my Filipino friend told me that Viloria was only trying to cash in on the Pacquiao craze back in 2006, I myself only knew of a few filipinos like lou diamond Philips and Rob Schneider, those were like the only two famous people who were really vocal about being Filipino. Viloria was Hawaiian to me, because its what he claimed, if there was no Manny Pacquiao you still think he would claim Filipino? get real. Pacman basically put the Philippines on the map, nobody knew about them to be honest. Both Viloria and Donaire are embraced and loved by the Filipinos, if not most. And Philippines is very proud of them for the glory that they gave the country. However, of course, not in the same level as Pacquiao is. Maybe Pacquiao was so much loved by the Filipinos since the time that he was making waves in the US because of his mentality of giving all he got to great lengths as "dying in the ring" in order to make a name for his country. Seconded only by his known generosity to the less fortunate.

once again..what does claiming heritage have anything to do with anything??? Viloria is a fullblooded filipino regardless. Filipinos have jumped on the coattails of guys like tim lincecum who's only 1/4 filipino and has never openly claimed filipino heritage...just passing references when asked. So you're saying they're proud of half and quarter filipinos because they claim it while disrgarding full blooded ones as phonies because they dont talk about it. Ok..... Tim Lincecum? http://manginphotography.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/85125709BM_Astros_Giants0261-423x575.jpg Oh come on.. :pat: He's about as filipino as bangers and mash.

I ain't disowning any of them. They a both Americans of Filipino Descent. You take you pick between the two words.

An ongoing issue i've had with filipino sports media is that not too long ago brian viloria was the 2nd biggest filipino star next to manny pacquiao. But ever since viloria's tainted losses against omar nino and donaire's spectacular ko of darchinyan...nonito donaire has become the new media darling and viloria has never regained his celebrity status despite recapturing a world title. I've asked several members of filipino media the reason for this and the most common response was along the lines of donaire embraces his filipino heritage therefore making more compelling storylines while viloria is more american as evidenced by his competing for the u.s. olympic team as opposed to the philippines. Everytime I heard this I was like wtf??? How is donaire more filipino than viloria? Because he was born there?? Viloria qualified for the u.s. olympic team by beating donaire. Has actually spent more total hours living in the philippines and has had more fights there than donaire. Way to jump on a bandwagon and simultaneously be willfully ignorant of members of your own community philippines Surely because you know what EVERY single one of the over 100 million filipino's think. I mean never mind the fact that Vilioria is STILL popular in Pinas, but according to the pinoy's YOU know you assume it must be true. Take a read at this article, this is a much better illustration at WHY pinoy's wrote him off... http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/282223/sports/boxing/brian-viloria-once-written-off-now-set-for-historic-flyweight-unification-bout-versus-hernan-marquez

How do you even know that? Are you Filipino? Did you live in the Philippines around that time? You talk like what you're saying are facts when really they are just mere assumptions. :lame: the philippines lives in him not the other way around...