Why are HBO and Showtime allowing TR and GB to fight each other?

Def not good for the sport. Nov 24 Nov 3 are Open weekends why not put one of the cards on then. That way we can have big fights to look forward to every weekend. screw DVr. Nothing like watching it live. But hey its boxing as fans we love the sport but we are use to BS like this

Just think how much better the numbers for both events could have been on Sept 15 if they were not competing against each other...... We'll never know because they took customers away from each other.

Who's to say some of those 450k who ordered Martinez-Chavez weren't also one of the viewers who tuned in to Canelo-Lopez? You could switch back and forth, doesn't that count as a viewer? For all we know, the viewer numbers weren't affected at all. Maybe those 450k PPV's sold were those same dudes who were watching Canelo-Lopez, plus some casual fans. You're looking at one person who did that right here.

I wanted to see both Canelo-Lopez and Chavez Jr-Martinez peacefully. Instead I had to switch between them and it was annoying. I do not have DVR, I don't even have cable in my room, I watch boxing in my living room or a stream. So don't tell me about DVR. TBH, I haven't even seen the ginger/Lopez fight to this day. It played out exactly how I thought from what I heard though,lol.

I wanted to see both Canelo-Lopez and Chavez Jr-Martinez peacefully. Instead I had to switch between them and it was annoying. I do not have DVR, I don't even have cable in my room, I watch boxing in my living room or a stream. So don't tell me about DVR.

This is actually good for everyone watching the sport! Give's you more options :)

Just think how much better the numbers for both events could have been on Sept 15 if they were not competing against each other......

Sept 15 was a success solely due to the star power of Canelo and Chavez..... What about smaller scale fights and fighters??? How well did Lucas-Ajose do when put against Ward-Dawson??? Its unrealistic to expect that competition between the networks will somehow make it better for the sport.... You're taking an already small viewing audience and splitting it in half which in the end isn't good for the sport or most importantly the fighters.....

A success?How? The PPV sold 450k, those people who paid weren't going to flip flop channels to see Showtime when they just paid $60 for boxing. 16k people in that arena didn't get to see a great undercard that was put together on Showtime. Thousands didn't buy the PPV because they were either in the arena or watching Showtime. But 2 boxing card at the same time and the same day is now considered a success, do you have the Showtime numbers by any chance. Showtime had over a million viewers the ppv no. on HBO were higher than anticipated so yes I will call it a success. So what if those 16k people didn't get to see a great undercard on Showtime? That's akin to someone telling me that I didn't get to see a great Manu game because I chose to watch Arsenal. Also you're ignoring the fact that because two separate boxing events occurred more people were able to see a fight live ( There are not an infinite amount of tickets).

Cards on the same day suck, but hbo has no power to change it. Lets be honest, showtime can hold a fight card on friday if they choose. But since the networks have been swapping employees I think showtime just wants to come out of hbo's shadow. So now they're willing to compete hth. Showtime is by far the better fight network & now they're willing to prove it.

A success?How? The PPV sold 450k, those people who paid weren't going to flip flop channels to see Showtime when they just paid $60 for boxing. 16k people in that arena didn't get to see a great undercard that was put together on Showtime. Thousands didn't buy the PPV because they were either in the arena or watching Showtime. But 2 boxing card at the same time and the same day is now considered a success, do you have the Showtime numbers by any chance. The Showtime numbers did just over a million. Highest since 2007. The 475k PPV was a big success. You make a good logical point, but it's not valid in today's sports world. Do you really think out of those 1million people, 500,000 of them would of ordered the PPV? I don't. Giving people a choice is almost never a bad thing. What if it's a fight the fans don't want to see? Would you rather them tune into College football or the other boxing event?

A success?How? The PPV sold 450k, those people who paid weren't going to flip flop channels to see Showtime when they just paid $60 for boxing. 16k people in that arena didn't get to see a great undercard that was put together on Showtime. Thousands didn't buy the PPV because they were either in the arena or watching Showtime. But 2 boxing card at the same time and the same day is now considered a success, do you have the Showtime numbers by any chance. i bet most of those set their dvrs tho i get your point but if the two keep clashing shows then let them do it one of them will eventually not do as good as the other it still sucks but **** it dvr to the ready

It happened on September 15th, what was the result? A success. The mentality you have is what's leading to the sport stagnating and fans getting ripped off on PPV. Stuck in the 60s and prepared to allow the promoters to spin them bullsh*t. A success?How? The PPV sold 450k, those people who paid weren't going to flip flop channels to see Showtime when they just paid $60 for boxing. 16k people in that arena didn't get to see a great undercard that was put together on Showtime. Thousands didn't buy the PPV because they were either in the arena or watching Showtime. But 2 boxing card at the same time and the same day is now considered a success, do you have the Showtime numbers by any chance.

Competition between 2 companies is great, can't argue that, but this sport isn't big enough to compete against itself on the same day. Every week no, but if we're talking about certain dates like Nov 10th, and Dec 8th than yes, it's good stuff.

Competition between 2 companies is great, can't argue that, but this sport isn't big enough to compete against itself on the same day. It happened on September 15th, what was the result? A success. The mentality you have is what's leading to the sport stagnating and fans getting ripped off on PPV. Stuck in the 60s and prepared to allow the promoters to spin them bullsh*t.

You're missing the point, the quality of football, basketball and other sports is increased by the level of competition. Boxing might not reach those heights but an increase in competition will improve the overall competition. What do you think the state of Basketball there were only two teams and they organised different in house matches on separate days? Competition between 2 companies is great, can't argue that, but this sport isn't big enough to compete against itself on the same day.

But boxing will never be as big as football in the USA, boxing competes with college football on Saturdays, now you guys are okay with them stealing money from each other. You're missing the point, the quality of football, basketball and other sports is increased by the level of competition. Boxing might not reach those heights but an increase in competition will improve the overall competition. What do you think the state of Basketball there were only two teams and they organised different in house matches on separate days?

First world problems.

They do whats best for them. like the CEO and investors of HBO and Showtime give a **** if you have to use your DVR. They dont work for you they work for the company.

I shouldn't have to DVR my premium channels when I'm at home waiting for boxing, plus I'm one the few who's in here talking boxing in the RBR threads. I agree but **** these greedy promoters and networks trying to make me choose.