is conditioning really that important??

if you are able to do all the gym work + sparring at a solid pace without having to do your runs and ground work... does it really matter?? can a fighter just put in their gym work, bag,pads, shadowboxing, skipping etc Ask hagler (a la mugabu), holytield ( a la bowe), and Sergio Martinez if it matters.

if you are able to do all the gym work + sparring at a solid pace without having to do your runs and ground work... does it really matter?? can a fighter just put in their gym work, bag,pads, shadowboxing, skipping etc Sure. Any fighter can train like that...just as long as they are fighting in a policemen and firemens league where they box six, 30 second rounds.

Running will help. Not in terms of fight conditioning. I think enough sparring and bag work will do that. But running 5-8 miles everyday will help your focus. A lot of fighters think about strategies or game plans while they run. And at the same time it keeps them in shape and active. Running can be done anywhere and anytime. So it's convenient. And it's that something extra on top of all your training. A lot of fighters will run at odd hours because they feel like they haven't done enough during the day, so they just finish it off with a run just to feel satisfied. And plus the fact that it helps them make weight.

I know Toney doesn't run he's easily a 15 round fighter. Toney spars like a mother****a though. That's pretty much all he does, he doesn't even hit the bag. He just spars all day and hits the speed bag. That's probably why he's slurring his speech today. Sparring/boxing and running are two completely different animals. There was a crosscountry runner in my gym who wanted to try sparring for the very first time, after 3 rounds he was gassed. He said he never felt so tired in his life. This guy was in tip top shape too. Getting hit and trying to avoid it can really gas someone out if theyre not in "boxing shape". I still run, and I think it helps me over boxers who dont. That's because long distance runners have great aerobic stamina but lack anaerobic stamina. In boxing you need both.

Sure they could do that if they don't care about being successful~ Fighting in a ring against someone trying to hurt you is more tiring than just working out, so you need to get your conditioning up in every possible way so you go hard as long as possible. Skimping on any part will effect that, in shorter fights it might not come into play but as the distance goes up conditioning and preparation really become key. Plus there is the whole fact of knowing what you are capable of so you can try and fight at the best pace so you don't gas out, but even then you should try and train well beyond that level because what if your opponent pushes a faster pace.I agree. When a fighter gets up to the top level the guys he fights are all damn good. Not to much seperates the very best. So being in the best possible shape could make the difference between winning and losing. Hard training is a big part of the success of Pacquiao, Mayweather, Martinez, Marquez, and Bradley to name a few. They would not dream of missing road work.

Toney doesnt run(but look at him) and heard Chavez sr.quit doing road work as well A: they are legends with supreme gifts B: they weren't always known for terrific habits in between fights. C: they both sparred a boatload.

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Running to a boxer is about leg stamina and air efficiency , it should incorporate up and down hills , long straights and mixing pace between wind sprints and recovery while still jogging from those sprints , if you wanted to address those elements in a gym instead by using things like rowing machines , stair climbers and treadmills you never have to do roadwork and your conditioning will be every bit as good as roadwork .

Sparring/boxing and running are two completely different animals. There was a crosscountry runner in my gym who wanted to try sparring for the very first time, after 3 rounds he was gassed. He said he never felt so tired in his life. This guy was in tip top shape too. Getting hit and trying to avoid it can really gas someone out if theyre not in "boxing shape". I still run, and I think it helps me over boxers who dont.

I know Toney doesn't run he's easily a 15 round fighter. Plus besides the example I gave about oliviera a lot of people have bad knees and can't run so I'm sure a lot of boxers do to. But hey if you can do it it's only going to make you better right? As long as you don't over do it.

No offense man, but thats a dumb question lol. Actually its not a dumb question. I'm in the boxing gym 3 to four times a week. I think maybe 4 times and young kid has ask this question, at first i was like what kind of question is that. Yet the kid goes my fav fighter David Haye said he doesn't really do road work he builds it all in the gym... then i was like oh i get it. So what the trainer said to him was, not all things work for all people; and never believe what a fighter says about leaving things out of his training because he could just be playing mind games on his opponent...

if you are able to do all the gym work + sparring at a solid pace without having to do your runs and ground work... does it really matter?? can a fighter just put in their gym work, bag,pads, shadowboxing, skipping etc ray oliviera didn't do road work. He got shot in the knee so he couldn't. He was a 12 round fighter and former world champ I believe. So yeah it can be done.

The human body can't handle all the sparring you'd need to do to get ready without running and doing other work... I should know, I tried. It ****ing sucked. Running isn't just about the lungs. It's the constant movement of your legs, the never ending movement is really beneficial to keeping or legs fresh in a fight when you're moving around a lot.

It's one of the most important aspects of the game. You can be the most talented fighter in the world but if you can only fight hard for 4 rounds then what do you think is going to happen. I have been very close to losing my fights because of my conditioning. I read a book a few years ago, "In This Corner . . . !", by Peter Heller. It's a collection of interviews with 42 former world champions. The one thing that was emphasized the most, as far as fighting success was concerned, was conditioning. It's one of the few things I remember vividly from that book.

If your conditioning is lacking, your technique and game-plan will eventually suffer throughout the fight unless you score and early stoppage.

It's one of the most important aspects of the game. You can be the most talented fighter in the world but if you can only fight hard for 4 rounds then what do you think is going to happen. I have been very close to losing my fights because of my conditioning.

Toney doesnt run(but look at him) and heard Chavez sr.quit doing road work as well

if you are able to do all the gym work + sparring at a solid pace without having to do your runs and ground work... does it really matter?? can a fighter just put in their gym work, bag,pads, shadowboxing, skipping etc It's an interesting question (which has been misinterpreted by some in this thread). You seem to have a dislike for roadwork, and since you're experiencing success, it's tempting to think the way you do. But, in my opinion, there's a reason why running has been used by boxers since the very beginning. It's not like you're the first one that asked themselves this question. Think about that before you conclude that running is unnecessary in your special case.

Is this question even serious??

wow, did you really ask that