Neither guy 'dominated' but both won a clear cut decision. Also gotta disagree with the beating Abraham with pure strength part especially, he showed great composure that night and showed he does have very underrated boxing ability.
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I agree, but abraham is a strong guy and it was clear that froch was much stronger and that is impressive in itsself
(and had better skills)
People keep takling about resume, but what about in what manner the beat there opponent.
The dawson/adamek fight was fairly close, Ward dominated
Everyone that have faught Froch keeps saying have strong he is.
He beat pascal on pure strenght IMO same with abraham,dirrel,bute and kessler(despite the lose).
The dude is super strong and tough and is why he can compete with faster fighters.
Ward bullyed froch like as if he was a cruiserweight
Neither guy 'dominated' but both won a clear cut decision. Also gotta disagree with the beating Abraham with pure strength part especially, he showed great composure that night and showed he does have very underrated boxing ability.
Again more impressed by Dawson getting off the canvas after a heavy knockdown & pulling it out the bag than I was of Ward cruising then fading badly in the latter 3 rounds in a truly horrible contest.
People keep takling about resume, but what about in what manner the beat there opponent.
The dawson/adamek fight was fairly close, Ward dominated
Everyone that have faught Froch keeps saying have strong he is.
He beat pascal on pure strenght IMO same with abraham,dirrel,bute and kessler(despite the lose).
The dude is super strong and tough and is why he can compete with faster fighters.
Dawson/Adamek wasn't close at all, Dawson dominated and got dropped.
Froch didn't beat Abraham on pure strength.
People keep takling about resume, but what about in what manner the beat there opponent.
The dawson/adamek fight was fairly close, Ward dominated
Everyone that have faught Froch keeps saying have strong he is.
He beat pascal on pure strenght IMO same with abraham,dirrel,bute and kessler(despite the lose).
The dude is super strong and tough and is why he can compete with faster fighters.
Ward bullyed froch like as if he was a cruiserweight
rooting for ward against dawson, but adamek was the better win
it wouldve been interesting to see what wouldve happened had adamek been able to secure bigger name opponents, froch had the opportunity to fight in the super six and raise his name while adamek was fighting in a division (cruiser) not exactly known for their big names and beat cunningham anyway...showing real power in the process
adamek is a much better fighter than most people give him credit for
Ward over Froch
Froch has a better resume than Adamek.
Adamek was struggling to make weight.
Ward beat Froch more impressively than Dawson beat Adamek.
In Froch next fight he destroyed an undefeated fighter who some regarded as the best smw.
In Adameks next fight he moved up to CW and imo looked rejuvinated albeit against not the most talented of opponents but imo this further suggests he was weight drained at LHW.
I picked Ward over Froch.
Because I'm a biased, Northern California resident.
P.S.
Adamek has fought in the Prudential Center, with a HUGE Polish contingent, in 8 fights. Got a 119-110 score against Chambers, lmao.
He also fought V.K. in Poland.
So until a blatant robbery is given to Ward while fighting in Oakland, I really don't want to hear that lame ass excuse.
i agree on the fighting in oakland part. ppl like to forget most of those fights really couldnt be made somewhere else. was he gonna fight green and bika in their hometowns? that wouldnt sell a ticket, even in vegas it wouldnt make as much money as it did in oakland.
when he fought kessler it was the first fight of the super six. after that mikkel was supposed to fight in denmark in his next fight which he did. ward was supposed to fight taylor in little rock but jermain pulled out, was he gonna fight green in oaklahoma? again he was gonna fight away, this time dirrell in detroit but like taylor andre pulled out. bike became his next opponent, you think it makes sense to make ward-bika in sydney? how about cameroon? and abraham coming of two embarassing losses in a row wasnt a good sell in germany at the time. oakland was the only logical choice the as well.
then he froch who he fougth in AC and now dawson back in oakland, he could have fought dawson somewhere else, but other than kessler its really the first time he chose to take a fight that could be made anywhere and make it at home.
I picked Ward over Froch.
Because I'm a biased, Northern California resident.
P.S.
Adamek has fought in the Prudential Center, with a HUGE Polish contingent, in 8 fights. Got a 119-110 score against Chambers, lmao.
He also fought V.K. in Poland.
So until a blatant robbery is given to Ward while fighting in Oakland, I really don't want to hear that lame ass excuse.
i dont think you can say either one is clearly better than the other bcuz both were tremendous wins. i have to go with dawson beating adamek though, adamek is a better fighter than froch imo and dawson won bigger and looked better than ward.
the whole weight drained thing is just an excuse, adamek fought his whole career at 175 and it wasnt an issue until he lost. in fact his three best wins were his three most recent fights. he had no reason to fight chad if the weight was a problem going in either, dawson had no name and if he was moving up regardless he wasnt keeping the title anyways. why fight chad if he was struggling?
chad just put on a masterpiece against adamek, it was one of the best displays of boxing in the last 20 years and im not excagerating. its right up there with hopkins-trinidad, mayweather-corrales, whitaker-chavez etc. ward boxed very well against froch but not up to that level.
froch might have more good wins than adamek, hell he has more good wins than almost everyone in the sport. but the best wins on adameks resume beat the best wins on frochs, that along with aforementionsed dominance on the night makes me have to go with dawson.
Adamek had beaten Paul Briggs twice & Ulrich who at the time was useful fighters, maybe not world class but certainly far from 'E level bum fighters'
Froch bounced back very well & caused another minor upset over Bute after.
Adamek on the other hand bounced back tremendously and upset several former titlists, went upto cruiserweight to take a big, bad Steve Cunnginghams IBF title from him in his own hometown, destroyed an undefeated Banks on foreign ground went upto heavyweight and beat the huge & always dangerous Michael Grant, Chris Arreola & the likes. In fact his only loss since is to a monster in Vitali K
Both great wins but for me Dawsons win over Adamek is slightly better.
I stated after the Dawson loss not his wins before and briggs was extremly overrated as history have shown
look at his record and read the records of his apponents in the first six fights after dawson,bums
You say that his wins at heavyweight makes dawson`s win over him better ,but infact its on the contrary
Adamek was drained at Lightheavy and was always better suited fighting at the higer weight classes.
Strange logic
Dawson was the underdog because adamek was better known and because he had faught bigger names, not because dawson`s skill set was considered inferior
Ward was considderd the favorit in the froch fight because the have both fought in the same turnement and faced similar opposition
Huge difference
If froch had faught abraham,Bute and pascal and ward kessler,green ward would have been considered the underdog
If adamek and dawson had have faced the same apponents over a short period of time Dawson would have been considered the favorit going into the fight
After the dawson fight up until Cunningham,adamek faced E level bum fighters with almost no wins in there resume.
In froch first fight after the ward he faced a heavy handed 29-0 unbeaten champion and slaughtered him in under 5 rounds
Ward over froch and its not even close
Adamek had beaten Paul Briggs twice & Ulrich who at the time was useful fighters, maybe not world class but certainly far from 'E level bum fighters'
Froch bounced back very well & caused another minor upset over Bute after.
Adamek on the other hand bounced back tremendously and upset several former titlists, went upto cruiserweight to take a big, bad Steve Cunnginghams IBF title from him in his own hometown, destroyed an undefeated Banks on foreign ground went upto heavyweight and beat the huge & always dangerous Michael Grant, Chris Arreola & the likes. In fact his only loss since is to a monster in Vitali K
Both great wins but for me Dawsons win over Adamek is slightly better.
Adamek never belonged at 175, we was definitely better off at cw and above... It doesnt matter if he accomplished more, if he accomplished more but it was at higher weight classes then it only gives him credibility in the weights he succeeded at, what did he succeed at at lhw?
The fact that he was successful while moving up in weight and even managed to beat some decent heavyweights doesn't matter? Could Froch do that?
Dawson over Adamek. Undefeated 2 division World Champion. I believe Adameks resume is better than Froch, not by much but it's better.
No it ain't.
Adamek notable wins.
Banks
Cunningham
Arreola
Golota
Grant
Chambers
Froch notable wins.
Pascal
Taylor
Dirrell
Abraham
Johnson
Bute
Not that close at all really. Apart from Dirrell, the others guys Froch beat were former world champs.
Banks and Cunningham are the only real stand out wins for Adamek in truth. I put the other HW's in there some are fairy high ranked Hw's, but they're just contenders in truth who haven't made the break though.
Dawson over Adamek.
Dawson was the underdog, Ward was expected to handily beat Froch & was quite a heavy betting favourite.
Adamek was undefeated & more importantly for me was how well Adamek bounced back from the defeat.
I was on the fence until reading this post but I agree with Dan on this.