Eder Jofre - Greatest bantamweight ever?

Amazing fighter. Could do everything really well.

In certain scenario's I would agree, such as Oscar-Tito. But it would be unfair to fighters who actually gave it there all. Look at it this way...lets say there are two guy dead even after 11 rounds (obviously there is a 10-8 round in there somewhere) and one fighter comes out and clearly dominates the final round, gives it everything to earn a hard fought but close fight. Is it fair to take a victory from him? yeah i agree it is not fair for all situations but at the least fighters going in a fight knows he has to dominate to win any half a_s performance he will end up with a draw, I also think it will serve as a reward for the fighter trying and punishment for half-a_s performance... anyway it is still a crazy rule, maybe it was taken out for good reasons, was just thinking it would help bring more excitement...

that's crazy rule but in a way seems to encourage boxers and they have to really beat their opponent to win... it sounds crazy but would that rule in todays boxing bring more excitement, what do you think bros? In certain scenario's I would agree, such as Oscar-Tito. But it would be unfair to fighters who actually gave it there all. Look at it this way...lets say there are two guy dead even after 11 rounds (obviously there is a 10-8 round in there somewhere) and one fighter comes out and clearly dominates the final round, gives it everything to earn a hard fought but close fight. Is it fair to take a victory from him?

Here's an interesting bit I found on boxrec about Jofre's draw with Manny Elias between the two Harada losses. Eder was ahead by 3 points on all three score cards at the end of 10 rounds. But under Brazilian rules you need a four-point margin to gain a verdict. Eder did not have a four-point margin against Elias, so the fight was declared a draw. Strange rule I never heard of before. that's crazy rule but in a way seems to encourage boxers and they have to really beat their opponent to win... it sounds crazy but would that rule in todays boxing bring more excitement, what do you think bros?

Wow what a ridiculous rule that is though it seems like it is still in effect especially in Germany (Alekseev vs Arslan, Marco Huck vs Ola Afolabi, Campillo vs Murat 2) are a few of recent times that spring to mind. Makes you wonder about the other draws on his record. Under American Rules he very well might be 76-2. Please, don't even get me started on Germany. :grumble:

Wow what a ridiculous rule that is though it seems like it is still in effect especially in Germany (Alekseev vs Arslan, Marco Huck vs Ola Afolabi, Campillo vs Murat 2) are a few of recent times that spring to mind.

Here's an interesting bit I found on boxrec about Jofre's draw with Manny Elias between the two Harada losses. Eder was ahead by 3 points on all three score cards at the end of 10 rounds. But under Brazilian rules you need a four-point margin to gain a verdict. Eder did not have a four-point margin against Elias, so the fight was declared a draw. Strange rule I never heard of before.

True.. zarate deserves a mention too.. highly skilled.. resume just lacks compared to these guys

Shame you don't really much about this guy even on boxing forums as he was a fcukin' beast! He should for me anyway be right up there with the top ATGs You talk heart, skills, power, iron chin - Eder Jofre! 72-2-4 (50 K.Os) Whooped Legra, Saldivar, Caldwell, Caraballo, Aoki, etc etc He fought 12 times in 9 months! won 10, 2 draws. Retired after two losses to Fighting Harada, came back after 3 years & whooped everyone at featherweight. That second win over Jose Medal could possibly be the best win or performance of his career. A really good win over a really good fighter. The only thing Jofre lacks is a real career defining win against another great fighter. A shame he didn't get the nod one of the Harada fights because that's all his career needed. Still a great fighter none the less.

Great fighter.. Rockabye Ruben is probably my pick for best bantamweight Between Olivares, Panama Al Brown and Jofre for me. Talent and skill wise, Jofre is up there with the best.

I'd say so. Jofre was a great fighter. People tend to overrate him at times but he was a great fighter. Arguably beat Harada both times.

Had him winning both Harada bouts. Everyone should have a little more Jofre in their lives.

He is a god among mere mortals.

Great fighter.. Rockabye Ruben is probably my pick for best bantamweight

Jofre is sort of an enigma in that people either have him seriously underrated or seriously overrated. He's a hard guy to rank in terms of ATGs.

Have you noticed how nobody has really commented in this thread...shame. I've always liked Eder Jofre. I'm a hardcore boxing fan though so I appreciate all weights in boxing. If it was Floyd, Manny, Khan or someone there would be hundreds by now :lol1: The guy is criminally underrated. Its a shame such a brilliant fighter could be almost unheard of like that. The way he slips those shots is a thing of beauty & almost a forgotten tool of today. More excitement in that short clip than in most 12 round title bouts of today. Truly a living legend that is still a fitness freak & regularly runs marathons & does exhibitions.

Shame you don't really much about this guy even on boxing forums as he was a fcukin' beast! He should for me anyway be right up there with the top ATGs You talk heart, skills, power, iron chin - Eder Jofre! 72-2-4 (50 K.Os) Whooped Legra, Saldivar, Caldwell, Caraballo, Aoki, etc etc He fought 12 times in 9 months! won 10, 2 draws. Retired after two losses to Fighting Harada, came back after 3 years & whooped everyone at featherweight. Probably, was known as the batamweight SRR and is in mine ATG top ten list.

Probably belongs in the history section, my bad. Not sure how to move it?