Haye got rid of Chisora in impressive fashion. For such a "small" Heavyweight like Haye, this is special imo. He is messing with the big boys and he is bringing it everytime his opponent is not called Klitschko. I think that deserves being in the top 10 p4p list. Haye got real skills, always had, and when I look at some of the guys in the current p4p list, I think Haye would fit right in there. He is skillful, fast, his chin looked fine in his last fights. Actually I think he is not just skillful, I would say VERY skillful
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Rasket, if you gave Haye 4 rds vs Wlad, you're the one who needs to get the f-ck out. Two rds tops. Give it up dude, Haye doesn't belong anywhere near the top 10 p4p.
A win over Povetkin & a nice catch weight fight over Lebdev or Huck could certainly put him on the p4p list.
But a win over a fighter who lost to Tyson Fury does not make you p4p even if it his was his first ko loss.
Chisora should be european champion since he won almost every round against Helenius. and I had Vitali only winning by 1 point against Chisora.
wtf is wrong with u people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he didnt even win a round against wald n some ppl dont have him in it
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I gave Haye 4 rounds against Wlad. u cant score? get the f-ck out
After beating a bum who has lost 3 out of his last 4 fights? :nonono:
Chisora isnt a bum and he clearly beat Helenius. furthermore Chisora almost beat Vitali Klitschko on the scorecards, something not even Lennox Lewis came close to do. I had Vitali winning only by 1 point and if you know ANYTHING about scoring, u have it similar.
Top 15 or 20. Behind Wlad and Vitali who's skills I put ahead of guys like Lara, Dawson, and Ortiz. Accomplished more at Crusierweight than a lot of guys accomplished in any class and I think he's better than some of these good smaller fighters.
Exactly this.
Because Haye is not American he does not deserve p4p status.
Has nothing to do with Haye being unranked for a year and beating a guy who wasn't ranked top 100 p4p......Nope just the fact that he is English....
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TS got destroyed
wtf is wrong with u people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he didnt even win a round against wald n some ppl dont have him in it
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Incidentally, size doesn't guarantee success in the heavyweight division, even in its current, weakened state. There are other Klitschko-sized fighters over the past few years who have done nothing. Ty Fields. Michael Grant, Audley Harrison. Even Valuev, who was never even remotely close to being considered P4P like the Klitschkos.
Size is a huge part of their success, obviously, but it's also far from being the only part.
The Klitschkos (particularly Wladimir) are really the antithesis of pound for pound because it's their size advantage over most of their opponents which is their main asset. If you reduce the Klitschko size and say made them light heavyweights, Wladimir would have retired with more losses than wins by now. Vitali on the other hand could have still been a champion. But Klitschkos main attribute is their size.
P4P is if the fighter was in any weight class, would their skills still rank them as among the best fighters in the world. Like I said, Wladimir is way too one-dimensional to be considered p4p worthy, you reduce his poundage to 147 and Floyd or Manny would have destroyed him within only a few rounds. But Vitali would still possibly be a p4p candidate IMO, that guy could actually fight and he had more dimensions to his game.
Drivel. That's like saying that Roy Jones wasn't P4P because it was more speed and athleticism than skills that made him great. If Roy didn't have the sheer athleticism he did, would he have been as successful? Of course not. Does that mean that he was any less of a top P4P fighter in his day? Not at all. The Klitschko's size being a major factor in why they dominate their division is the same thing.
and I guess your reasoning is that Haye is not american, right? LOLNo. That's pretty dumb, since I'm not American, I live in the UK, I like Haye, and I couldn't care less where a fighter comes from anyway.
My reasoning is that he's nowhere near being one of the top P4P fighters in the sport. P4P level fighters fight and beat the best guys in their division. Haye doesn't.
**** like this is why ppl dont take the heavyweight division seriously...no1 deserves to be anywhere near the p4p list in the heavyweight division unless their name has a klitchsko in it.
A win over Povetkin & a nice catch weight fight over Lebdev or Huck could certainly put him on the p4p list.
But a win over a fighter who lost to Tyson Fury does not make you p4p even if it his was his first ko loss.
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