Will Martinez Fight The Golovkin/Pirog Winner After JCC?

lol sorry im a realist and in boxing that mean pessimist. Yes i believe Sturm is that big of a coward just look at his history. Geale is feathed fisted and he won't get a decision. I wouldnt be suprised if Sturm won legit. If Sergio beats JCC then he'll be WBC Champion so it removes him from all the other ABC rankings so Sturm won't have to fight him. Look at the IBF rankings 1. NOT RATED 2. Sam Soliman 3. Sergio Martinez 4. Dominik Britsch 5. Avtandil Khurtsidze 6. Giovanni Lorenzo 7. Osumanu Adama 8. Darren Barker 9. Kerry Hope 10. Jose Miguel Torres 11. Domenico Spada 12. Predrag Radosevic 13. Elvin Ayala 14. Jermain Taylor 15. Joe Green lmao Stum could defend against the Soliman, Britsch, Lorenzo, and Spada's of the world for the next 5 years with ranknigs like that if he grabs the IBF belt. That is one uninspiring list of fighters lol. Seems like Sturm got all his bases covered. It seems like the perfect storm, and I REALLY hope it doesn't come to pass. That is too damn depressing, why even continue fighting if he's planning to fight that type of opposition? The money trumps all.

If he gets past Chavez Jr he will go back down to 154 to get a fight with Mayweather.

Forgive me for trying to think positive thoughts lol. If you're right, then Geale has a bigger incentive to leave it all in the ring. He'd be doing boxing a favor by smacking Sturm around and taking the titles with him. It's the only way he'll get a fight with the other champions in the division. At the end of the day, the real fight is in the ring, not behind the scenes. Of course, Geale can and probably will get robbed. But, there's a possibility that he doesn't, and walks away with a victory he earned. We'll deal with the future when it becomes a reality. If Sturm wins and drops the belt, then so be it. He'll still have to worry about Sergio, who's ranked #3 by the IBF. I'm trying to give Sturm the benefit of the doubt in the situation. He can't be that big of a coward, can he? I'll be rightfully pissed if he does drop the title, but it hasn't happened yet. He hasn't even won the fight yet. Allow me to fantasize of having an undisputed MW champion, I don't need to hear the negativity lmao lol sorry im a realist and in boxing that mean pessimist. Yes i believe Sturm is that big of a coward just look at his history. Geale is feathed fisted and he won't get a decision. I wouldnt be suprised if Sturm won legit. If Sergio beats JCC then he'll be WBC Champion so it removes him from all the other ABC rankings so Sturm won't have to fight him. Look at the IBF rankings 1. NOT RATED 2. Sam Soliman 3. Sergio Martinez 4. Dominik Britsch 5. Avtandil Khurtsidze 6. Giovanni Lorenzo 7. Osumanu Adama 8. Darren Barker 9. Kerry Hope 10. Jose Miguel Torres 11. Domenico Spada 12. Predrag Radosevic 13. Elvin Ayala 14. Jermain Taylor 15. Joe Green lmao Stum could defend against the Soliman, Britsch, Lorenzo, and Spada's of the world for the next 5 years with ranknigs like that if he grabs the IBF belt.

After Martinez takes care of Chavez (I still think team Chavez finds another way out of the fight), I think he will go after Canelo. Golovkin, Pirog, Gaele, and Sturm put together can't bring the kind of money Martinez will be looking for. Canelo can!

lol You're crazy. That's the entire reason Sturm wanted to unify with Geale. Unification was the only way he could avoid the WBA's insistance that he fight Golovkin and if he wins he will drop the WBA Super belt so he doesn't have to fight the Golovkin/Pirog winner especially if its Golovkin and he will still be IBF Champion. They're going to strip Pirog before the Golovkin fight. N'jikam will either be upgraded to full Champion or he'll fight some scrub and win the belt. I never really understood why they were so hellbent on stripping Pirog but now there is talk of Cotto wanting to move to MW and it makes sense now. Strip Pirog, have Cotto fight N'jikam, have Cotto-Mayweather rematch for MW belt. Boxing corruption is chess not checkers. Got to be thinking several moves ahead and never underestimate their greed or complete lack of ethics. Forgive me for trying to think positive thoughts lol. If you're right, then Geale has a bigger incentive to leave it all in the ring. He'd be doing boxing a favor by smacking Sturm around and taking the titles with him. It's the only way he'll get a fight with the other champions in the division. At the end of the day, the real fight is in the ring, not behind the scenes. Of course, Geale can and probably will get robbed. But, there's a possibility that he doesn't, and walks away with a victory he earned. We'll deal with the future when it becomes a reality. If Sturm wins and drops the belt, then so be it. He'll still have to worry about Sergio, who's ranked #3 by the IBF. I'm trying to give Sturm the benefit of the doubt in the situation. He can't be that big of a coward, can he? I'll be rightfully pissed if he does drop the title, but it hasn't happened yet. He hasn't even won the fight yet. Allow me to fantasize of having an undisputed MW champion, I don't need to hear the negativity lmao

Actually if he beats jcc jr which he will have to do by ko cuz arums not letting martinez win on the cards then i think if the ppv sells great then we'll see may martinez.

sure, but he's almost 40 and his skills and reflexes are eroding. I don't blame him if he wants to cash out before it's too late. in an ideal world martinez would fight golovkin after he sparks out pirog. at his age i cant blame him too much for taking the biggest money fights though. he has built a solid legacy as a two weight titleholder, true MW champion and a top p4p fighter of his time. he hasnt made alot of money doing it though, again at his age i cant be mad at him for cashing out even though martinez vs GGG would be a great fight. ofcourse if he doesnt fight the pirog-golovkin winner he will lose his status as MW champion and be demoted to titleholder in my eyes. its not impossible that he does fight GGG though, i mean who else is out there? if theres no big money fight martinez will fight him, hes not a ducker he just wants to get paid. I can understand that but alot of Martinez supporters/apologists will want it both ways and claim he's still MW Champ even if he chases money and ducks the top MW's. I just don't see the majority being that reasonable and in spite of having some sympathy for his plight in wanting a payday as a boxing fan i do think it's extremely unadmirable for him to not give the heir apparent a shot. Call me crazy, but I think Sturm would step up and fight the winner of Pirog/Golovkin. It's either that, or he risks losing his title. Winner of Sturm/Geale (WBA super/IBF belts) vs. winner of Pirog/Golovkin (WBA world/IBO). So if everything goes like it should, we'll have a clear unified WBA/IBF/IBO titlist. Chavez/Martinez would clean up the WBC. N'Jikam is gonna get a WBO title shot, and if Pirog loses against Golovkin, maybe the WBO will allow him to fight for the title. MW is my favorite division right now, the future is looking pretty bright. lol You're crazy. That's the entire reason Sturm wanted to unify with Geale. Unification was the only way he could avoid the WBA's insistance that he fight Golovkin and if he wins he will drop the WBA Super belt so he doesn't have to fight the Golovkin/Pirog winner especially if its Golovkin and he will still be IBF Champion. They're going to strip Pirog before the Golovkin fight. N'jikam will either be upgraded to full Champion or he'll fight some scrub and win the belt. I never really understood why they were so hellbent on stripping Pirog but now there is talk of Cotto wanting to move to MW and it makes sense now. Strip Pirog, have Cotto fight N'jikam, have Cotto-Mayweather rematch for MW belt. Boxing corruption is chess not checkers. Got to be thinking several moves ahead and never underestimate their greed or complete lack of ethics.

I wish he would do that, isn't there a quote somewhere that Martinez told canelo not to be talking smack or else, after he would beat Chavez that he would go back down to 154 and take back what was rightfully his. If ginger's handlers are ducking the entire 154lb division, what in the world makes you think that they're gonna fight Martinez?? LOL!!:nono:

why wouldn't he? he likes to fight the best

he'll most likely still be chasing a floyd mayweather fight...

he might, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went down to 154 I wish he would do that, isn't there a quote somewhere that Martinez told canelo not to be talking smack or else, after he would beat Chavez that he would go back down to 154 and take back what was rightfully his.

Call me crazy, but I think Sturm would step up and fight the winner of Pirog/Golovkin. It's either that, or he risks losing his title. Winner of Sturm/Geale (WBA super/IBF belts) vs. winner of Pirog/Golovkin (WBA world/IBO). So if everything goes like it should, we'll have a clear unified WBA/IBF/IBO titlist. Chavez/Martinez would clean up the WBC. N'Jikam is gonna get a WBO title shot, and if Pirog loses against Golovkin, maybe the WBO will allow him to fight for the title. MW is my favorite division right now, the future is looking pretty bright.

no, he'll call out Cotto, Pac, and Floyd he's been at MW for a while now he might not even be able to go down to JMW again by this point he's not interested in taking on the best contenders at MW he's just hunting for money now

I actually admire his defense and posture. His style is constantly changing with different looks and he switch hits in mid punch while changing speeds on all his punches. I actually believe the genius in his craft is his ever changing guard. I know golovkin is powerful but I can see him getting fits with a style he has never seen before. That style isn't even seen here in the states. Its pretty unique IMO, its not 123 or overly athletic. Its constantly changing. I do admit that it would be a competitive fight but on both sides. I don't see an easy time for either guy IMO. We will see, I just hope it happens, but as for his defence - Lucian Bute has some similar defensive moves ;).

I think Golovkin overpowers him, Pirog really doesn't put much into his punches and most of the time he just slaps. He also pushes his right hand a lot and even though he knocked out Jacobs with it, I don't think it's really dangerous weapon from him. He's defence is also weird, I don't think it passes test against top quality fighters. Generally I don't think Pirog gets destroyed, I think Golovkin wins clearly after competitive, but not close fight. I actually admire his defense and posture. His style is constantly changing with different looks and he switch hits in mid punch while changing speeds on all his punches. I actually believe the genius in his craft is his ever changing guard. I know golovkin is powerful but I can see him getting fits with a style he has never seen before. That style isn't even seen here in the states. Its pretty unique IMO, its not 123 or overly athletic. Its constantly changing. I do admit that it would be a competitive fight but on both sides. I don't see an easy time for either guy IMO.

Can I ask what makes you guys say golovkin will destroy pirog? I am a pirog fan but I would genuinely want to hear this. I think Golovkin overpowers him, Pirog really doesn't put much into his punches and most of the time he just slaps. He also pushes his right hand a lot and even though he knocked out Jacobs with it, I don't think it's really dangerous weapon from him. He's defence is also weird, I don't think it passes test against top quality fighters. Generally I don't think Pirog gets destroyed, I think Golovkin wins clearly after competitive, but not close fight.

To be entirely honest, I'm not even sure that Martinez is getting past Jr any more. Jr has stepped his game up monumentally as of late.

Can I ask what makes you guys say golovkin will destroy pirog? I am a pirog fan but I would genuinely want to hear this.

I could see Martinez - Pirog happening if Dmitry wins, but as I think Golovkin beats Dmitry rather easy, I can't see Martinez - Golovkin happening. Maybe if Golovkin would just smash Pirog and make some hype and world demand for the fight, but I don't see that either. I have nothing to add about Sturm, that's how it is. And as for respect part, it depends who Martinez goes after instead of GGG, or Pirog, if it's Canelo/Sturm-Gaele/Cotto then I'm fine with that, even though I'd also prefer to see the fight you're talking about. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This:headbang:

Martinez has other plans after the Chavez fight; namely, sitting in a rocking chair with an absent stare in his eye only speaking once or twice a week to say "Chavez, Chavez".