Now accusing him of setting Manny up to lose??i mean damn ya'll believe he was trying to build a damn stadium,yet ya'll accuse him of setting Manny up to lose??but when people have been calling him scum for years and saying Manny should leave ya'll called those people haters and said Arum was an honorable man.....so why are ya'll throwing him under the bus now??
should floyd get "all" the ppv??hell no but Arum didnt even wanna negotiate all he did was make dumb ass unheard of excuses
The "eye injury" was just Arum saying that Manny needs to check it out before we can confirm that he can fight on a specific date ... but Floyd fans twisted that line to fit their agenda .... nothing new.
The "stadium" was nothing new. If you read my link, there was a proposal even back in 2009 ... again, Floyd fans twisted it to mean, he didn't want to fight .... but even Arum said, "we can do it on May 5th" even Manny said "May 5th" .... but the condition was that Floyd gets his own guarantees and Manny/Arum wanted 50/50 as stated on Manny's official website.
You guys expect Manny to give in on testing, revenue sharing, wait for FLoyd's long vacation, and any other roadblock Floyd throws at Manny .... when will you guys say, "Floyd, do you really want this fight?"
When asked about the holdup with Manny, can you believe Floyd even said in his Cotto prefight interview that "Manny said no to testing" .... even though Floyd has said in the past that its no longer an issue!!! Floyd forgot that he moved on to a new roadblock! lol!
When it was 50/50 all along then you hear Floyd say, "I want all the PPV money", you don't need to be Arum to be pissed off ...
You can turn/spin it all you want but it always comes back to one thing. Floyd's latest roadblock. Initially, you guys said, "There is no proof that Floyd wants the bigger split" ... but when it finally came from Floyd's own mouth, you guys defended Floyd.
yea and Arum walked away from 50/50 the first time man.he's been holding this fight up........even when Manny agreed to the testing Arum was blocking it
no we wouldnt have cause Arum was upset about the phone call period
When it was 50/50 all along then you hear Floyd say, "I want all the PPV money", you don't need to be Arum to be pissed off ...
You can turn/spin it all you want but it always comes back to one thing. Floyd's latest roadblock. Initially, you guys said, "There is no proof that Floyd wants the bigger split" ... but when it finally came from Floyd's own mouth, you guys defended Floyd.
You're becoming one of the biggest goofs I've seen on this forum...and thats saying something
Nice try ... that's what you guys do when you can't win an argument ...
but to call people names when all you guys have as arguments are "the stadium", "the injury" when the real roadblock was and is "revenue sharing" ... that is the joke!
I have no problem in someone saying that Arum may be part of the problem ... but in my eyes, Floyd is the biggest problem because if Floyd agreed to 50/50, we would have a fight! If not then Floyd would have been off the hook and Manny would be blamed .... but Floyd said "I WANT ALL PPV MONEY"
no we wouldnt have cause Arum was upset about the phone call period
manny agreed to 50/50.yet Arum said he was pissed the phone call even happend and said that isnt how you negotiate a fight cause he wasnt involved............Arum is the hold up.............and what happend to Arum "claiming"he was going to talk to the judge on Floyds behalf?
I have no problem in someone saying that Arum may be part of the problem ... but in my eyes, Floyd is the biggest problem because if Floyd agreed to 50/50, we would have a fight! If not then Floyd would have been off the hook and Manny would be blamed .... but Floyd said "I WANT ALL PPV MONEY"
Floyd just had to try .... a lot of money was at stake for Vegas and the judge knew that. If your opponent needs 2-3 more weeks due to an injury, the judge could have agreed. Actually, Floyd still could have gone to jail in June but fight late May rather than early May.
BUT the most important things in all this that you need to ask yourself. If Floyd really wanted to fight Manny:
#1 - Floyd would have tried to change the date, if required ... he had zero to lose by trying. Right?
#2 - Floyd went from PEDs testing excuse for 2+ years to all of a sudden "I want all PPV money"? Why? Why after 2+ years? Was it because Floyd's old roadblock expired?
Secondly, like I said before, Manny agreed to May 5th on condition that Floyd accepts 50/50 .... so when you guys bring up those other excuses, its just that ... excuses ....
You're becoming one of the biggest goofs I've seen on this forum...and thats saying something
So Floyd wanted to fight Manny on May 5th? So if your opponent can't fight due to (eye) injury on May 5th, you don't try to go back to the judge to postpone a couple of more weeks at most using that as an excuse .... "Your honor, due to unforeseen events, my OPPONENT CAN ONLY FIGHT MAY 26 ... can you please extend by just 2-3 more weeks?"
so now you're bringing up the eye issue? The same eye injury that Freddie Roach admitted was bogus and Arum had no problems with if it was Marquez on May 5th instead of Floyd?
Floyd just had to try .... a lot of money was at stake for Vegas and the judge knew that. If your opponent needs 2-3 more weeks due to an injury, the judge could have agreed. Actually, Floyd still could have gone to jail in June but fight late May rather than early May.
BUT the most important things in all this that you need to ask yourself. If Floyd really wanted to fight Manny:
#1 - Floyd would have tried to change the date, if required ... he had zero to lose by trying. Right?
#2 - Floyd went from PEDs testing excuse for 2+ years to all of a sudden "I want all PPV money"? Why? Why after 2+ years? Was it because Floyd's old roadblock expired?
Secondly, like I said before, Manny agreed to May 5th on condition that Floyd accepts 50/50 .... so when you guys bring up those other excuses, its just that ... excuses ....
manny agreed to 50/50.yet Arum said he was pissed the phone call even happend and said that isnt how you negotiate a fight cause he wasnt involved............Arum is the hold up.............and what happend to Arum "claiming"he was going to talk to the judge on Floyds behalf?
the judge aint gonna keep pushing no damn jail date...are you serious???kinda sh1t are you on??he was suppose to try to push his damn jail date back AGAIN??instead of Arum cutting the sh1t and stop blocking the damn fight??hell even Ariza said he's blocking the fight
Floyd just had to try .... a lot of money was at stake for Vegas and the judge knew that. If your opponent needs 2-3 more weeks due to an injury, the judge could have agreed. Actually, Floyd still could have gone to jail in June but fight late May rather than early May.
BUT the most important things in all this that you need to ask yourself. If Floyd really wanted to fight Manny:
#1 - Floyd would have tried to change the date, if required ... he had zero to lose by trying. Right?
#2 - Floyd went from PEDs testing excuse for 2+ years to all of a sudden "I want all PPV money"? Why? Why after 2+ years? Was it because Floyd's old roadblock expired?
Secondly, like I said before, Manny agreed to May 5th on condition that Floyd accepts 50/50 .... so when you guys bring up those other excuses, its just that ... excuses ....
Floyd tried every excuse in the book to stay out of jail including "I got a fight", "I want be in house arrest" ... but he couldn't TRY to delay 2-3 more weeks?
Plus, Manny said, "I will fight Floyd on May 5th if Floyd accepts 50/50 .... so all that other stuff you guys bring up is all fluff .... the latest of Floyd's roadblocks was and is revenue sharing!!!
the judge aint gonna keep pushing no damn jail date...are you serious???kinda sh1t are you on??he was suppose to try to push his damn jail date back AGAIN??instead of Arum cutting the sh1t and stop blocking the damn fight??hell even Ariza said he's blocking the fight
so you wanted the fight to be in the prison yard??
Floyd tried every excuse in the book to stay out of jail including "I got a fight", "I want be in house arrest" ... but he couldn't TRY to delay 2-3 more weeks?
Plus, Manny said, "I will fight Floyd on May 5th if Floyd accepts 50/50" .... so all that other stuff you guys bring up is all fluff .... the latest of Floyd's roadblocks was and is revenue sharing ... ALL PPV FOR FLOYD, NONE FOR MANNY (FLOYD's WORDS)!!!
wait... you do realize that Mayweather didn't try to change the date because the whole basis behind him getting his sentence delayed the first time was because he had already made obligations to fight on May 5th, right? That was the entire argument that his lawyers made to get the sentence delayed. This isn't rocket science, bro. Come on.
So Floyd wanted to fight Manny on May 5th? So if your opponent can't fight due to (eye) injury on May 5th, you don't try to go back to the judge to postpone a couple of more weeks at most using that as an excuse .... "Your honor, due to unforeseen events, my OPPONENT CAN ONLY FIGHT MAY 26 ... can you please extend by just 2-3 more weeks?"
http://tinyurl.com/5tfjzzp
Get over it already. This is fight, if it ever happens, is going to be such a let down even some of the fans here may off themselves. Watching that actually would be worth putting on PPV
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Link is to prove that the stadium was always being sought ... but if I get you a link that states that Arum wanted the fight later in May, what are you going to do? I can answer that .... nothing!
If Floyd wanted to fight Manny he would have TRIED to change the date to May 19, 26 or YES even June 2 or 9 BUT Floyd didn't even try. That's the problem.
Why did Floyd (TRY TO) get his lawyers to delay until June if the judges said he had to go to jail earlier than that?
Why did Floyd ask to (TRY TO )change the terms even after going to jail in that he wanted home arrest?
BUT why didn't Floyd TRY to change the fight date? Floyd could have gone to the judge and say "my opponent needs a delay of 2-3 weeks due to his eye injury .... its going to be great for Vegas (money wise).
but all of that never entered Floyd's fans thoughts ... I wonder why?
BUT Manny still said, I will fight Floyd on May 5th if he agrees to 50/50 ... so your excuses are just that .... excuses!!!
wait... you do realize that Mayweather didn't try to change the date because the whole basis behind him getting his sentence delayed the first time was because he had already made obligations to fight on May 5th, right? That was the entire argument that his lawyers made to get the sentence delayed. This isn't rocket science, bro. Come on.
thats a lie he never mentioned it when he posted the damn time clock and had the Nov date reserved
It was mentioned the first time .... during the "time clock" Floyd was on vacation and not willing to fight, remember? Remember Floyd's team saying "There were no negotiations"?
Link is to prove that the stadium was always being sought ... but if I get you a link that states that Arum wanted the fight later in May, what are you going to do? I can answer that .... nothing!
If Floyd wanted to fight Manny he would have TRIED to change the date to May 19, 26 or YES even June 2 or 9 BUT Floyd didn't even try. That's the problem.
Why did Floyd get his lawyers to delay until June if the judges said he had to go to jail earlier than that?
Why did Floyd ask to change the terms even after going to jail in that he wanted home arrest?
BUT why didn't Floyd TRY to change the fight date? Floyd could have gone to the judge and say "my opponent needs a delay of 2-3 weeks due to his eye injury .... its going to be great for Vegas (money wise).
but all of that never entered Floyd's fans thoughts ... I wonder why?
BUT Manny still said, I will fight Floyd on May 5th if he agrees to 50/50 ... so your excuses are just that .... excuses!!!
so you wanted the fight to be in the prison yard??
Arum asked to delay a couple of week (before June), if possible, ..... Arum preferred an outdoor stadium since day 1 .... See link below.
Floyd mentioned "I want all PPV money" roadblock only after Manny agreed with roadblock #1 "Take the test and we have a fight"
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4715684
Arum has also received a proposal for a 30,000-seat temporary stadium on the Las Vegas Strip across from the Wynn resort.
thats a lie he never mentioned it when he posted the damn time clock and had the Nov date reserved