From max boxing:
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Media2/MaxBoxing_Gabe_1a.jpg
http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Media2/MaxBoxing_Gabe_2a.jpg
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Well, very interesting if it's true.
Oh to even twist the knife in deeper, Pacquiao gained 16 lbs from weigh in to fight night against Marquez in the 2nd fight? How did Pacquiao gain 16 lbs of SOLID MUSCLE overnight??
Diego Corrales gained 16 lbs from weigh in to fight night against Floyd, How did he gain 16 lbs of SOLID MUSCLE overnight??
Baldomir gained 15 lbs of SOLID MUSCLE overnight! How is Floyd beating all these cheaters?!
Muscle tissue is %75 water. They drew the water out for the weigh in and then re-hydrated after it was over. I used to do it all the time for during wrestling and amateur boxing days.
Conte's SNAC is on the cutting edge of enhancers so it's safe to say he still knows what he's talking about. I think it's more likely that they decided it be best if he's kept out of the picture. Initially, he was everywhere when VADA first began and then slowly they began pretending he didn't have anything to do with it. Actually what they stressed was how he had no official position.
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/contes-here-to-stay
Right now, Conte is in the process of working with Dr. Margaret Goodman in putting together a cost-effective and more modernized testing procedure that will make boxing a cleaner sport.
http://dsourceboxing.com/articles/victor-conte-wants-to-clean-up-boxing-with-his-dream-team-of-anti-dopers-called-vada
Conte revealed to me today in an interview, that he is part of an anti-doping task force he calls VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency) that will soon be launched to provide athletes the most comprehensive drug testing.
http://www.steroidsources.com/Steroid-Information/2011/06/victor-conte-launching-anti-doping-task-force-vada-wada-aims-to-develop-advanced-epo-and-hgh-testing/
He was once the center of federal investigation and served a jail term for providing professional athletes with performance enhancing drugs. Considered as one of America’s top sports scientist, Victor Conte will again plunge himself into the sports industry by sharing his expertise in performance enhancers. But this time it is not about providing athletes with designer steroids. Conte will be launching a new anti-doping agency together with other health experts in the country.
The list goes on and on. All of a sudden he has nothing to do with it--maybe because of the conflict of interest. Or the stigma associated with him. Who knows?
Conte likes to talk and Conte likes to seem like he is a big deal.
So what Conte says doesn't hold much water.
He consulted, they got what they needed or wanted and then kicked him to the side. I can't feel that is being important part of their organization.
Because he has no say, has no role in their future to help them improve.
If he was that valuable or useful he would be kept on secretly or otherwise, which makes me think he doesn't know cutting edge anymore thus his usefulness would be limited.
Conte's SNAC is on the cutting edge of enhancers so it's safe to say he still knows what he's talking about. I think it's more likely that they decided it be best if he's kept out of the picture. Initially, he was everywhere when VADA first began and then slowly they began pretending he didn't have anything to do with it. Actually what they stressed was how he had no official position.
http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/contes-here-to-stay
Right now, Conte is in the process of working with Dr. Margaret Goodman in putting together a cost-effective and more modernized testing procedure that will make boxing a cleaner sport.
http://dsourceboxing.com/articles/victor-conte-wants-to-clean-up-boxing-with-his-dream-team-of-anti-dopers-called-vada
Conte revealed to me today in an interview, that he is part of an anti-doping task force he calls VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency) that will soon be launched to provide athletes the most comprehensive drug testing.
http://www.steroidsources.com/Steroid-Information/2011/06/victor-conte-launching-anti-doping-task-force-vada-wada-aims-to-develop-advanced-epo-and-hgh-testing/
He was once the center of federal investigation and served a jail term for providing professional athletes with performance enhancing drugs. Considered as one of America’s top sports scientist, Victor Conte will again plunge himself into the sports industry by sharing his expertise in performance enhancers. But this time it is not about providing athletes with designer steroids. Conte will be launching a new anti-doping agency together with other health experts in the country.
The list goes on and on. All of a sudden he has nothing to do with it--maybe because of the conflict of interest. Or the stigma associated with him. Who knows?
Why is that?
Because he has no say, has no role in their future to help them improve.
If he was that valuable or useful he would be kept on secretly or otherwise, which makes me think he doesn't know cutting edge anymore thus his usefulness would be limited.
That is 2 inches difference only which could only equate a few lbs but the staggering 10-15 lbs pure muscles is too much. Please don't blame me for using the same logic you used when the floms accused Pac was indeed on PED.
2inches = a few lb diffrence.
Floyds heaviest reported weight was 151 against Ortiz
Pacquiaos heaviest reported weight was 149 against Margo
That is a few pounds yes?
However you CLAIM that floyd weighed 160-165 against Cotto. Where is your proof? I know whenever someone CLAIMS Pac is juicing you are first to ask where is your proof, so Im going to hit you with the same thing. But forget about all that. Let's say Floyd weighed 165 against Cotto, you really think that is solid muscle? Then you think Ortiz is on PED's He weighed in at 147 against Floyd, came in at 164? Are you suggesting that Floyd is on a super steroid that allows him to gain 15 lbs of solid muscle overnight? That's not how the body works, that's not how steroids work, that's not anything works.... Professional body builders can gain a couple lbs a week of solid muscle. Step your game up son :banana:
Oh to even twist the knife in deeper, Pacquiao gained 16 lbs from weigh in to fight night against Marquez in the 2nd fight? How did Pacquiao gain 16 lbs of SOLID MUSCLE overnight??
Diego Corrales gained 16 lbs from weigh in to fight night against Floyd, How did he gain 16 lbs of SOLID MUSCLE overnight??
Baldomir gained 15 lbs of SOLID MUSCLE overnight! How is Floyd beating all these cheaters?!
that's why you don't put the decisions in the hands of fighters or promoters as far as testing is concerned. if any fighter wants advanced testing that's good but he should not decide who should administer the testing or make direct contacts with any testing agency. he can suggest yes, but he should never be in-charge.
Yep. Kind of like hiring an investigator to investigate you.
I think Conte did a lot more then they care to let on, particularly given Homansky's comments.
I think the exact opposite I think his role was very minimal.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did.
People say look at Pacquiao weight rise, which is about 3lbs from superfeather to his light-middleweight fight with Margarito 145-148lbs.
But you look at Mayweather weight rise through the same division and it is 136lbs - maybe 156lbs. A huge 20 lbs weight rise.
Yet Pacquiao 3lbs weight rise is the one people have suspicious about.
Floyd traps are huge compared to the rest of his body, another sign of steroid use.
He has anger problems, another sign.
He has long stints away from the sport and any testing, time to use what ever drugs he like and not get caught.
And as with Andre Agassi, his drug use was covered up by the tennis authorities to save the image of the sport.
If Mayweather is setting the standard for the tests it also gives him the chance to have to loop holes there where he can exploit.
Hopefully the Boxing authorities will bring in universal testing not set by the boxer.
I am really surprise this hasn't reached 200 pages.
Let me add some flames here.
Floyd is premature bald (sign of possible roid effect) and and and has roid rage *
* Parody only to increase the numbah of pages there. I actually don't think Floyd went bald early.
that's why you don't put the decisions in the hands of fighters or promoters as far as testing is concerned. if any fighter wants advanced testing that's good but he should not decide who should administer the testing or make direct contacts with any testing agency. he can suggest yes, but he should never be in-charge.
Consulting doesn't mean creating~ it just mean they picked his brain and as the biggest known thief in the system (what other lab even got popped to the degree of Balco) it makes sense to talk to him since he is known for gaming drug tests.
Conte is old news anyway he probably doesn't even know the cutting edge anymore~ so really he is kind of a white elephant
I think Conte did a lot more then they care to let on, particularly given Homansky's comments.
FLoyd Mayweather's promoters threatening legal action for DEFAMATION FOR ALLEGED PED'S ?!!?
How ironic is that! Floyd's been doing this to Manny Pacquiao without any proof for YEARS.
GBP themselves even did it and made a public apology if my memory serves me right.
FLoyd Mayweather's promoters threatening legal action for DEFAMATION FOR ALLEGED PED'S ?!!?
How ironic is that! Floyd's been doing this to Manny Pacquiao without any proof for YEARS.
GBP themselve even did it and made a public apology if my memory serves me right.
If they release test results quarterly, we should get the Mayweather-Cotto test results at the end of June right? I don't think Montoya is saying he test positive for anything. He's just asking does the the three a year exemption because he gets tested for a few months a year. I can't see Floyd wanting to beef up because he has the perfect build for his style of fighting, a traditional boxer build.
FLoyd Mayweather's promoters threatening legal action for DEFAMATION FOR ALLEGED PED'S ?!!?
How ironic is that! Floyd's been doing this to Manny Pacquiao without any proof for YEARS.
dare I say floyd is abusing dihydrogen monoxide to enhance his fighting abilities???
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That was the greatest thread ever. :lol1: I couldn't believe the number of people that fell for it.
Conte didn't test the system. He helped make it.
Consulting doesn't mean creating~ it just mean they picked his brain and as the biggest known thief in the system (what other lab even got popped to the degree of Balco) it makes sense to talk to him since he is known for gaming drug tests.
Conte is old news anyway he probably doesn't even know the cutting edge anymore~ so really he is kind of a white elephant
I think that was the post fight. I think that's the norm for USADA to have a post even test. it makes sense to me to have one anyways.
Yeah, duh **slaps forehead**
But anyway glad they do both blood and urine after.
And, if anyone is interested. Floyd-Ortiz testing dates/results.
http://www.usada.org/ortiz-mayweather
Again, this is more about Golden Boy IMO than Floyd himself. I know Gabe might be hoping for Floyd. But, I more interested if there is a working agreement relationship with GBP-USADA and if there is any provision in the contract. Again the Winky-Quillin doesn't sit right IMO. And, it might end up being nothing at all. But, there needs to be answers and explanations.
That's what interests me too, looks like GBP isn't so confident with their no.1 prizefighter with his nutrition program, that is IF the agreement is true.
And, if anyone is interested. Floyd-Ortiz testing dates/results.
http://www.usada.org/ortiz-mayweather
Again, this is more about Golden Boy IMO than Floyd himself. I know Gabe might be hoping for Floyd. But, I more interested if there is a working agreement relationship with GBP-USADA and if there is any provision in the contract. Again the Winky-Quillin doesn't sit right IMO. And, it might end up being nothing at all. But, there needs to be answers and explanations.
Interesting that they tested both the day of.
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