Carl Froch - Top 10 P4P ?

When I update the list for the site after Pac-Bradley, I can't see him much lower than seven if not top 5 depending on how the big fight goes. He's 6-2 against the toughest schedule in the sport, took 3 0's along the way, has one close home win, one narrow road loss, and one competitive, clear loss to one of the best on earth. He didn't take his foot off the gas a bit like Donaire did for a minute after Montiel; hasn't gone to a pair of so-so challengers and begged for a fight with JCC Jr. Froch is still getting knocked on aesthetics. He's proven. If he's not in the debate after May, Pac, Ward, and Marquez, no one should be. Very well put.

couldn't have put it better mate P4P is silly in the first place, but if Froch's schedule and results aren't 'top ten' burn all those stupid lists.

When I update the list for the site after Pac-Bradley, I can't see him much lower than seven if not top 5 depending on how the big fight goes. He's 6-2 against the toughest schedule in the sport, took 3 0's along the way, has one close home win, one narrow road loss, and one competitive, clear loss to one of the best on earth. He didn't take his foot off the gas a bit like Donaire did for a minute after Montiel; hasn't gone to a pair of so-so challengers and begged for a fight with JCC Jr. Froch is still getting knocked on aesthetics. He's proven. If he's not in the debate after May, Pac, Ward, and Marquez, no one should be. couldn't have put it better mate

When I update the list for the site after Pac-Bradley, I can't see him much lower than seven if not top 5 depending on how the big fight goes. He's 6-2 against the toughest schedule in the sport, took 3 0's along the way, has one close home win, one narrow road loss, and one competitive, clear loss to one of the best on earth. He didn't take his foot off the gas a bit like Donaire did for a minute after Montiel; hasn't gone to a pair of so-so challengers and begged for a fight with JCC Jr. Froch is still getting knocked on aesthetics. He's proven. If he's not in the debate after May, Pac, Ward, and Marquez, no one should be.

you can imagine Froch fighting in the 1940's and fighting 5 times a year against the worlds best, classic throwback fighter

Great win but P4P is for elite fighters, Ward dominated him which probably won't get erased from analyzing P4P position. Marquez got dominated by Mayweather. Sometimes, you meet a dude who's A. Better than you and B. has all the wrong style. Froch's wins WAY outweigh his loss here.

Great win but P4P is for elite fighters, Ward dominated him which probably won't get erased from analyzing P4P position.

if he rematches Kessler and beats him he has got to be in top 7 in my opinion Depends on how Dawson and Bradley do in their next fights, because Ward and Pac aren't going to drop out of the top 7, unless they lose badly.

He would have to beat Kessler in a rematch to be top 10 in my opinion. I had the first fight a draw, and i believe he can win a rematch in England given the fighting styles of both men. A loss to Ward shouldn't refrain him a top 10 spot as long as he can avenge the Kessler defeat. Ward is top 3. No shame in losing to a gifted fighter.

if he rematches Kessler and beats him he has got to be in top 7 in my opinion

Maybe if he avenges the Kessler loss.

Top 15 not top 10

p4p is not so much about resume or quality of opponents. if it was then froch should definitely be in. but froch doesn't look very good against really good boxers. dirrell (even though he is a whiny *****) and ward especially made him look pretty bad and super slow. but if he fights guys who like to brawl at times (pascal/abraham) or guys who can't take his pressure (bute/taylor) he can look like a machine. i would be happy for him if he gets on the p4p list though and it wouldn't be bad to put him at like 9 or 10th i don't think, he does deserve it. spot on :fing02:

Tim Bradley clearly, he's gonna get iced. Tim Bradley shouldn't get completely dropped of a p4p list for losing to Pacquiao. That's the same logic that had people drop Marquez into the bottom half after losing to Mayweather, even though Marquez was still the third best fighter in the world, at least.

To be fair to your question though. I have Donaire in my top 10p4p list, yet judging his resume (Fought no one since Montiel) against Froch's, I don't think he belongs there any more.

Considering his only clear loss was to a guy many believe could be ranked p4p #1, Froch certainly has an argument for the top 10.

I'd like to say yes, based on his level of opposition. I think you could seriously consider it if he avenges his loss to Kessler. Ward is def top10 p4p. No one doubts Froch's heart or toughness, but you can't have unavenged losses to 2 active fighters still at your weight and be in the top10. A KO against Kessler and he's on my list

Easily, at this point.

Mayweather Martinez Marquez Pacquiao W Klitschko V Klitschko Gamboa Ward Bradley Rigondeaux i was very tempted to put Rigondeaux in my list, no doubt he probably the most talented fighter on the planet, just opposition at the moment but after 9 fights you cant hold that against him, within 3 fights he will be there, shame age is not on his side otherwise we would be looking at a potential ATG!

your delusional, froch is the number 1 fighter in the uk by some distance to be honest ^^^^this^^^^