CARL FROCH has delivered a verbal KO to those writing off his chances of becoming a three-time world champion tonight.
Froch is the underdog as he bids to relieve Lucian Bute of his IBF world super-middleweight title at Nottingham’s Capital FM Arena.
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Bute by tko round 8-9
I only needed to see on e youtube vid of bute to know Bute was going down against Froch, and Bute was fave wasnt he?
Goes to show, bookies know f*** all as Froch said. Floyd fave against Pac dont give me that?
his mind works in a strange way. Anytime a boxer i think is gonna win is an underdog, im happy. Dunno why he's so upset, he should be jumping ofor joy as he walks into a bookies to place his life savings on Pac. I think i even read him say that he'd go in closer to foght time to see if the odds have changed in Pacs favour.
:lol1: Yeah, I said to check the odds online and he said he'll go to the bookies closer to the fight and find out
Not even check online :lol1: This Internet stuff is still relatively new to me but I'm sure anyone can check odds online.
He seems to be a little upset over the fact there's a lot of people, bookmaker's including who think Mayweather will beat Pacquaio.
Hope he doesn't lose too much sleep.
Think it's the link between the bookmakers odds.
his mind works in a strange way. Anytime a boxer i think is gonna win is an underdog, im happy. Dunno why he's so upset, he should be jumping ofor joy as he walks into a bookies to place his life savings on Pac. I think i even read him say that he'd go in closer to foght time to see if the odds have changed in Pacs favour.
Damn, how do you turn a super middleweight fight between Bute and Froch in to a thread about Mayweather and Pacquiao.
Think it's the link between the bookmakers odds.
The only way to garantee being favourite is if your like Pac and so obviously great by beat down of his opponents who are great consistently, or like Floyd who lives off of his zero and cos he dont fight is living off of past glories as the bookies havent found out how overated he is yet, living off of the Gatti fight and Corrales.
Other than that you will be underdog like BH for the rest of your career. But i do understand how upsetting it is for career that people have seen all youve got to give and are not impressed still. Frochs shown his A game and people still doubt him.
Pac on the other hand is the no1 fighter, for the number one trainer in the world.
Damn, how do you turn a super middleweight fight between Bute and Froch in to a thread about Mayweather and Pacquiao.
HUGH GRANT what are you trying to prove, your clearly upset, cry me a river!
the bookies are out to make money, the money is on floyd, simple as that
they are not fans when it comes to listing the odds
floyd IS favourite, simple as that.
but if you wanna get into it......
everybody knows the style pac struggles with and we all know how floyd fights. even some pac fans think floyd will win, MOST people aint stupid.
bottom line, floyd beats pac, and NOT saying he will, but he could make easy work of it
But Pacs the greater fighter, so why do people think Floyd would win.....Pac is the greater fighter? Why dont people think the greater fighter will win? Why isnt the greater fighter favourite?
Like I said, I don't know why he's the favourite. I imagine it's because they think he's a better fighter and has the style and ability to win.
And Pacquaio being greater is debatable. And, even if he was, just because he's greater doesn't mean he should be favourite to win.
Styles make fights.
No, it's because he's better. Most people think he'd win.
The betting odds do too. That would be why he's the favourite.
But Pacs the greater fighter, so why do people think Floyd would win.....Pac is the greater fighter? Why dont people think the greater fighter will win? Why isnt the greater fighter favourite?
Bute by KO Too much skill for the Froch. Too much hand speed footwork And overall technique for the cobra. Carl Gona eat counter after counter from Bute specially that left uppercut to the body and the head and believe the cobra ain't taking too much of those without going down specially to that body. Bute gona have a field day today cuz Froch Gona b right there to b hit.
Pretty much this right here. Froch is getting ko'd.
Exactly, should he be fave against Pac if he is when they eventually fight? I wouldnt mind him being fave if i was given a satisfactory reason.
He was favourite was he when Pac demolished, hatton, and what about when he demolished DLH? When Floyd struggleish against Cotto, Floyd is still favourite against Pac am i to believe?
Is it cos he is bigger than Pac? Yeah that could be the reason when i look at it. Not cos he is a better fighter like you implied. I think most think Pac is the greater fighter. Hes got the best trainer in the world hasnt he and he beats people more convincinly than Floyd?
No, it's because he's better. Most people think he'd win.
The betting odds do too. That would be why he's the favourite.
All of that aside, Mayweather is still the favourite. That's just how it is. It's a fact.
Whether he should or shouldn't be is another thing.
But, again, he is the favourite.
Clearly, it's hard news for you to take.
Exactly, should he be fave against Pac if he is when they eventually fight? I wouldnt mind him being fave if i was given a satisfactory reason.
He was favourite was he when Pac demolished, hatton, and what about when he demolished DLH? When Floyd struggleish against Cotto, Floyd is still favourite against Pac am i to believe?
Is it cos he is bigger than Pac? Yeah that could be the reason when i look at it. Not cos he is a better fighter like you implied. I think most think Pac is the greater fighter. Hes got the best trainer in the world hasnt he and he beats people more convincinly than Floyd?
Do people really think Floyd is the better fighter apart from floyd fans?
Yep. As upset as that makes you.
That would be why he's the betting favourite.
As far as i and millions worldwide were aware Pac was the greater fighter with greater accomplishments and achievements, or am i missing something?
So dont get carried away you floyd admirer. If Floyd will ever be favourite against Pac, it is simply cos they think style wise he may be Pacs kryptonite. But i could have said the same for Ali against Foreman. Someone as fast as Ali, who floated like a butterfly would beat the mummy walking foreman with power but no speed.
You keep using the same Ali-Foreman example and I have broken down 3 times now why the comparison is terrible.
So my question still isnt answered. Why would Pac be underdog when he is a greater fighter than Floyd? I know, its possibly cos floyd is unbeaten and overated, as simple as that, it happens a lot in boxing and hes American to boot. Style wise JMM is pacs nightmare but Pac is favourite still. People could easily make a case that Pac style wise is a nightmare for Floyd. . and when Pac beats Floyd, people will be saying we should have known all along, the warning signs were there.
Roach afterall is considered the greatest trainer, i assume cos he has the greatest fighter.
All of that aside, Mayweather is still the favourite. That's just how it is. It's a fact.
Whether he should or shouldn't be is another thing.
But, again, he is the favourite.
Clearly, it's hard news for you to take.
Mayweather is the favourite because most people feel he is the better fighter and has the style to beat Pacquaio.
It's as simple as that, and the odds show it.
Mayweather is the favourite. I'm sorry about that.
Do people really think Floyd is the better fighter apart from floyd fans? As far as i and millions worldwide were aware Pac was the greater fighter with greater accomplishments and achievements, or am i missing something?
So dont get carried away you floyd admirer. If Floyd will ever be favourite against Pac, it is simply cos they think style wise he may be Pacs kryptonite. But i could have said the same for Ali against Foreman. Someone as fast as Ali, who floated like a butterfly would beat the mummy walking foreman with power but no speed.
So my question still isnt answered. Why would Pac be underdog when he is a greater fighter than Floyd? I know, its possibly cos floyd is unbeaten and overated, as simple as that, it happens a lot in boxing and hes American to boot. Style wise JMM is pacs nightmare but Pac is favourite still. People could easily make a case that Pac style wise is a nightmare for Floyd. . and when Pac beats Floyd, people will be saying we should have known all along, the warning signs were there.
Roach afterall is considered the greatest trainer, i assume cos he has the greatest fighter.
Bute is the favorite simply because the people betting are laying their money down on Bute more. Don't blame the bookies, blame the people betting. The bookies are only adjusting to the betting trends.
Froch should be happy. He could bet some on himself and make himself a ton of money.
:lmao1: thats jacked up LMAO
Bute is the favorite simply because the people betting are laying their money down on Bute more. Don't blame the bookies, blame the people betting. The bookies are only adjusting to the betting trends.
Froch should be happy. He could bet some on himself and make himself a ton of money.
Shut up, Froch! Bute isn't Abraham. Bute actually has speed and throws punches. Imagine that. You're a dog in your own backyard which means you'd be a huge dog anywhere else. Froch only wins vs BS hometown decision ala Dirrell.
He "wasn't himself" for the Ward fight? Lmao ok Carl.