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ARUM SAYS JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. WILL FIGHT SERGIO MARTINEZ IF HE BEATS ANDY LEE
RING champion Sergio Martinez has signed a contract that is meant to guarantee him a Sept. 15 fight against the winner of a June 16 title bout featuring WBC middleweight titleholder Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and southpaw Andy Lee.
Arum said Chavez has not yet done so, but that he intends to after getting beyond Lee.
"Chavez is fighting Lee, and if Chavez beats Lee, then our intentions to fight Martinez next," said Arum of Chavez (45-0-1, 31 KOs), who successfully defended his title by unanimous decision over Marco Antonio Rubio in February.
"Once this fight is over with Lee, then we'll sit with Chavez and talk about Martinez. But all things will happen in due course."
In a clash that will take place at the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, Chavez will meet the Detroit-based Lee (28-1, 20 KOs), a winner of his past 13 fights, eight of them by knockout since himself being stopped by Bryan Vera in the seventh round in March of 2008.
Promoted by Lou DiBella, as is Martinez, Lee avenged his loss to Vera following a 10-round unanimous decision in October, and is coming off last month's second-round stoppage of Saul Duran.
"I already have a deal worked out with Lou, which is a 60-40 deal," said Arum. "I still have to obviously get some understanding of a guarantee with Chavez, but I'm not going to bother Chavez until after his fight is over with Lee."
He just told us he's lined him up, but first has to win the Lee fight.
LOL that's not lining up, he doesn't have a verbal agreement that Chavez will fight Martinez, he said he wants to wait until after the Lee fight before "bothering" Chavez with discussion about Martinez. :lol1:
Chavez has less movement, defense, and work rate compared to Williams. You are joking right? Chavez won't leave his chin exposed?! This dude got no D. I will be surprised if Chavez Jr lasts over 6 rds.
The size makes a difference. Lets not kid ourselves. Chavez has better defense than williams imo but for arguments sake ill give it to you.
Pavlik had next to no movement and workrate against martinez and was able to neutralize anything martinez did in the middle rounds. Chavez has a shot. Not saying he'll beat him for sure but im definitely sure it wont be a beatdown like you think.
So you're gonna shortchange chavez for what he lacks in defense but makes up for in offense and size???
Martinez is gonna have to punch up against chavez like he did against williams. but chavez wont leave his chin exposed.
Chavez has less movement, defense, and work rate compared to Williams. You are joking right? Chavez won't leave his chin exposed?! This dude got no D. I will be surprised if Chavez Jr lasts over 6 rds.
You seem to forget something here. Martinez fought against a guy who has decent defense. Junior blocks punches with his face. Martinez is unorthodox in his style and would easy stop junior by 9th rd, if it goes that far.
So you're gonna shortchange chavez for what he lacks in defense but makes up for in offense and size???
Martinez is gonna have to punch up against chavez like he did against williams. but chavez wont leave his chin exposed.
Am I the only one giving chavez a shot???
Martinez had problems in his last 2 fights fighting on the inside. Guess what chavez does best.
You seem to forget something here. Martinez fought against a guy who has decent defense. Junior blocks punches with his face. Martinez is unorthodox in his style and would easy stop junior by 9th rd, if it goes that far.
I was expecting much less. Interesting. A few weeks ago Steve Kim went into his Top Rank shill mode ranting on about how if the fight wasn't going to happen, it would be because of Martinez demanding too much money (while claiming Chavez could fight anyone on PPV and make more money than with fighting Martinez), but apparently Arum is fine with 60/40.
i think because it's such an easy fight to promote, and will probably do pretty well. i mean chavez jr the son of a mexican legend, stepping up to try and dethrone the basically universally rated #3 P4P and MW king. the money will be there to be made, 60/40 of the hbo money will be easy enough to part with for mr arum.
This is pure nonsense. Sitting and talking with him about the fight is not the same as signing the contract. This fight was supposed to take place two fights ago and now Arum is going to sit and talk with him after the Lee fight. This is more BS from Bob Arum. There will be no Chavez-Martinez fight. I can almost guarantee it.
Why do you keep bringing up old "supposed to's"?? It's called "Flogging a dead horse". you may get the meaning.....He's announced a very good opponent in Lee whom Chavez is not even sure to beat. And then Martinez.
LOL Arum is the king of lining up opponents months in advance but he doesn't wanna do it this time?
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He just told us he's lined him up, but first has to win the Lee fight. It's simplemto understand and normal for Arum who likes to prepare in advance. However I'm certain that he has contingency plans as well. He's a lawyer, so in his way of thinking, nothing is certain until it's certain. That's exactly what he was aaying....Simple.
He's giving Martinez a very good deal, 60-40. I thought it would be 70-30 or 65-35. he pays well.
I thought the deal was that Chavez/Martinez had to be agreed to and signed off on or else Jr. would be stripped. Now he is going to sign after the fight? Something is fishy here, I can see it now:
"Unfortunately Chavez had a slight cut on his eyelid so he will not be available until mid 2013 or until right after Martinez signs another opponent, whichever comes first."- Bob Arum.
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ARUM SAYS JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. WILL FIGHT SERGIO MARTINEZ IF HE BEATS ANDY LEE"
Say what!?!?!
Can ANYONE.....ANYONE plllleeeeease explain how a SEVERE asskicking in PPV enhance the value of the paper panda known as JCCJ?
ANYONE?
All Arum has to do a few more BS fights and he would make more $$ than ONE fight against Martinez.
The ppl who thinks this is gonna happen are also the ppl who complain the state of boxing and continue to buy PPVs.
Seriusly now...anyone care to explain?
The funny thing is that it was alright for Arum to line up Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez in advance for Pacquiao. But all of a sudden it's not okay to line up Martinez for Julio???
:hail::hail:....^^^^^TRUTH^^^^^:hail:
The funny thing is that it was alright for Arum to line up Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez in advance for Pacquiao. But all of a sudden it's not okay to line up Martinez for Julio???
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ARUM SAYS JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR. WILL FIGHT SERGIO MARTINEZ IF HE BEATS ANDY LEE
RING champion Sergio Martinez has signed a contract that is meant to guarantee him a Sept. 15 fight against the winner of a June 16 title bout featuring WBC middleweight titleholder Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and southpaw Andy Lee.
Arum said Chavez has not yet done so, but that he intends to after getting beyond Lee.
"Chavez is fighting Lee, and if Chavez beats Lee, then our intentions to fight Martinez next," said Arum of Chavez (45-0-1, 31 KOs), who successfully defended his title by unanimous decision over Marco Antonio Rubio in February.
"Once this fight is over with Lee, then we'll sit with Chavez and talk about Martinez. But all things will happen in due course."
In a clash that will take place at the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas, Chavez will meet the Detroit-based Lee (28-1, 20 KOs), a winner of his past 13 fights, eight of them by knockout since himself being stopped by Bryan Vera in the seventh round in March of 2008.
Promoted by Lou DiBella, as is Martinez, Lee avenged his loss to Vera following a 10-round unanimous decision in October, and is coming off last month's second-round stoppage of Saul Duran.
"I already have a deal worked out with Lou, which is a 60-40 deal," said Arum. "I still have to obviously get some understanding of a guarantee with Chavez, but I'm not going to bother Chavez until after his fight is over with Lee."
This is pure nonsense. Sitting and talking with him about the fight is not the same as signing the contract. This fight was supposed to take place two fights ago and now Arum is going to sit and talk with him after the Lee fight. This is more BS from Bob Arum. There will be no Chavez-Martinez fight. I can almost guarantee it.