Ariza leaves Pacq Camp

So you type out more baseless speculation to defend your previous posts that consist of baseless speculation..... :pat: Again, Baseless would be Pacroids is on steroids or something like that. Ariza has given out those hints, Ariza is friendly with Oscar FACT, Ariza wanted to expose Arum FACT, Ariza blamed Pacquiao for his poor performances on him not taking training serious FACT, Ariza left during the most important part of training FACT, Ariza failed to inform Freddie Roach about leaving to LA FACT. So where is the BASELESS part? I speculated only on the facts given, but everyone does even theorists on TV and analysts. It would be Baseless if I just said oh Bradley gonna lose the fight is fixed, or Pacroids is on that juice.

:lol1: if the stars line up right...Bradley can stop Manny....we ALREADY know he got what it takes to outbox him and win on points....but thats not allowed, we all know that...its business baby!!..ask JMM....so Alex and his moonlighting ass might just open up the door for Timmy to get his...oh man, that would be crazy!!! :lol1:

How is it baseless when Ariza gave out the hints for a while now? Ariza is friendly with Oscar now, wants to wear a golden boy shirt on 24/7 and probably went to LA to pick it up, Ariza blamed Pacquiaos poor performances for not obeying their old training program, and what does Ariza do? He jets during the most important time for Pacquiao which is the first 3 weeks to build muscle before tapering down. Ariza isn't dumb he probably knows Pacman is going to lose so he will focus his time mainly on Chavez Jr to get him to the right weight. Pacman is basically out of boxing this is probably his last fight, Ariza is securing his future by focusing more on Chavez and Khan than Pacman. So it actually makes sense. So you type out more baseless speculation to defend your previous posts that consist of baseless speculation..... :pat:

Why are people blowing this out of proportion? People are acting like Mannys some young green fighter new to the game and needs Ariza watching his every move or somehow he's not going to show up prepared for the fight. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill so far in this thread i see people saying Ariza left the camp because Manny is lazy. Ariza has tension with Manny. Ariza cares more about JCC career. Manny is not in good shape so Ariza left out of frustration. LOL pure baseless idiotic speculation. How is it baseless when Ariza gave out the hints for a while now? Ariza is friendly with Oscar now, wants to wear a golden boy shirt on 24/7 and probably went to LA to pick it up, Ariza blamed Pacquiaos poor performances for not obeying their old training program, and what does Ariza do? He jets during the most important time for Pacquiao which is the first 3 weeks to build muscle before tapering down. Ariza isn't dumb he probably knows Pacman is going to lose so he will focus his time mainly on Chavez Jr to get him to the right weight. Pacman is basically out of boxing this is probably his last fight, Ariza is securing his future by focusing more on Chavez and Khan than Pacman. So it actually makes sense.

Why are people blowing this out of proportion? People are acting like Mannys some young green fighter new to the game and needs Ariza watching his every move or somehow he's not going to show up prepared for the fight. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill so far in this thread i see people saying Ariza left the camp because Manny is lazy. Ariza has tension with Manny. Ariza cares more about JCC career. Manny is not in good shape so Ariza left out of frustration. LOL pure baseless idiotic speculation.

He probably just went over there to assess Manny's fitness level. Found it satisfactory and decided to meet up again when they move camp to the US. Not really anything shocking here it seems. :dunno: and Barca just tied it up :nonono: Doubt that. He probably saw that Pacman wasn't serious and left. Ariza was there for 4 weeks with Khan, and only 4 days with Manny and he left. He left like a theif in the night, not telling the most important member of team Pacquiao which is Freddie Roach. Remember Ariza is getting in good with Oscar De La Hoya just look at his twitter he retweets everything Oscar says, and even told Oscar he is a better promoter than Arum. Ariza also saying he wants to train Brandon Rios is fishy. Arum knows Pacman is shot, so he tosses Pacman in a young hungry undefeated fighter to pass the torch to. Bradley is not the typical Pac opponent that Arum is used to matching him with. Bradley is in his prime and is very smart in the ring. This is not a Shot Shane Mosley or an older JMM who they hoped would be slower. Pacman is not winning this fight.

this can't be a good sign....all the talk about the cotto-style training methods...now ariza is gone? so, alex went to the phill. to train Khan for a couple of weeks? spin it any way they want, this can't be a good sign. The worst part is Ariza didn't even tell Roach. Ariza usually always confides n Roach before doing something. I think Ariza is going to jump ship, remember he said he would train Brandon Rios? Robert Garcia and Rios are Roaches enemies, Roach never forgave them after what they did insulting Roach. Ariza even saying he would train Rios is not a good sign of loyalty. I think Team Pacman is crumbling bad. Ariza is already looking for a way out, and I think Ariza is going to expose Bob Arum while he is at it. Ariza knows Pacman is going to lose, so he is jumping ship.

this can't be a good sign....all the talk about the cotto-style training methods...now ariza is gone? so, alex went to the phill. to train Khan for a couple of weeks? spin it any way they want, this can't be a good sign.

I told you guys Pacman looks soft, he is more interested in being a BORN AGAIN EVANGELIST Bible thumper after some southern white preacher was able to convert him. Pacman was better when he was a quiet Catholic, this new born again one is weird, I've spoke to Born Agains and they try to scare you with Rapture and they hate Catholics and always demand donations. Pacman is easily manipulated. Chavez Jr probably does need Ariza because of weight issues, last picture I saw of Chavez he looked to be 210 pounds all fat and the kid is 6 foot 2 so he is a big boy. I think Arum knows the deal, he knows Pacman is no longer hungry so this is why he is throwing in such a dangerous guy like Bradley in. Bradley is Arums new cash cow, this is how it always works out you pass the torch, if Bradley beats Pacman he will be the star, everyone will say Bradley is the man because he beat the guy Floyd Mayweather was scared to fight.

Bradley is going to tax that ass!!

Chavez needs Ariza more than Manny does, Manny doesn't have to cut weight and if he is already in decent shape he is probably way ahead of Chavez Jr.. Besides they will meet up when Manny gets back, he got Manny started, set up the plan and all he has to do is follow the plan for a couple weeks then Ariza can adjust when Manny gets to Wild Card. Chavez Jr. is like a little kid he would need much more constant attention~

Nothing to worry about, Manny and Ariza had an understanding that Ariza had to leave early As Expected, Ariza Leaves Pacquiao Camp Early; Heading Back to Work With Chavez Camp

Chavez needed emergency fat camp so they brought in Ariza.

Sh1t about to hit the fan? BAGUIO CITY — InterAKTV has just learned that strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza has left the training camp of Manny Pacquiao and is set to take a flight back to the United late Saturday night. Trainer Freddie Roach said Ariza has decided to be with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and the 52-year-old trainer was surprised over Ariza’s decision to leave in the middle of training camp for Pacquiao’s buildup for the June 9 match with Timothy Bradley in Las Vegas. In place of Ariza during Pacquiao’s workout at the Shape Up Gym was Marvin Somodio, a former amateur fighter, who works as a fitness instructor and trainer. It could not be determined if Ariza will reunite with Pacquiao in the first week of May in Los Angeles. I believe this is taken out of context, Manny and the other guys he works with already agreed with Ariza's schedule, theres a whole interview about, man talk about media fail.

arizas feelings mustve gotten hurt when he found out theres 2 white boys actin as a SC coach other than him.

the entire team-pacman is dysfunctional. no chemistry whatsoever, lots of tension between EVERYBODY. they all hate each other and freddie has no balls to take control over the situation. whenever they air pacman stuff on 24/7 you'll see at least 2 of the team pacman guys **** on each other or even manny and freddie go at it or freddie go at it with his assistents, or ariza going at it with konz or whatever the **** that guys name is and the list goes on. freddie has no balls btw. he is supposed to be the head of the group but he just lets manny run the show. its hilarious everytime freddie has to go up to mannys hotel room, knock on the door like a pizza delivery guy, and beg manny to come train and then manny will be like "tired maybe in a couple hours" and then freddie will sneak out of the room and sit in the gym with his pads on for hours and wait for manny to arrive. its pathetic. :pat: now this with ariza. just another day.

This is fishy, I am more confident Bradley will win now because Ariza probably realizes that Pacquiao is declining badly so he will now focus his time to that Chavez Jr. and Khan.

I hope this isnt the excuse ppl will use if Pacquiao loses to Bradley.

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/2201448_o.gif Ha @the sig

Apparently they all celebrated Ariza's Birthday Yesterday. I dont think there's Drama in the air, just a conflict of scheduling issue like others have said. Here's the article: http://fanvsfan.com/articles/manny-pacquiao-singing-for-alex-ariza-on-his-birthday-pics-amp-video-inside Yeah I think it's more of scheduling conflict...I don't think it will affect PAC much. PAC was apparently doing good training himself in general Santos before he got to Baguio.