Ive been watching some boxing all day today and I realized they gave everyone props for boxing their oppenent rather then going to war with them. I will list the 3 that will relate to who I will be talking about.
1. Marco vs Hamed.
2. Morales vs Pacquaio
3. Marquez vs Pacquaio
and I believe why all these fighters get away with it on these particular fights cause they typically go to war or put on a show only when it is extremely necessary do they go 100% into boxing and 100% into defense, so we give it a slide cause we know they did what they had to do to win.
Now with mayweather, We know he can war and put on a show and win easily but he rather just 100% box and 100% defense and no real prize fighting blood in him (now a days). and since we know he can actually win the fight easily even in a guts and glory type of fight but he rather just do what he has to do to win.
what you guys think
EDIT: forgot to add - this is the mind set of the casual fan (who make up like 90% of the fans) thats why we get people who cant accept the greatness in floyd boxing, they rather see risk etc etc
Simply, people dont like how FLoyd judges Pac, when really it should be boxing historians and experts who judge and to a lesser extent boxing fans. If Floyd thinks he can judge, well people will judge him in return.
Pac dont go around having his say on Floyds achievements, he isnt as obsessed with Floyd has done or what he hasnt done.
Floyd, just like his own fans obsess over what Pac does, as it takes the spotlight off of what Floyd does or doesnt do! There are consequences to that ungentlemenly behaviour.
Pac leaves it to God to judge him, what will be will be. He can do no more than get in the ring and fight, something Floyd hasnt been doing too much of, so is in no real position to speak, but if he does speak will be viewed as politically incorrect. Only fighting Floyd has done of late is with his wife.
Floyds the best fighter so they judge him with the highest standards. Floyds resume is sh1t in the eyes of his haters while Manys is great. Yet they have both faced the same opponent is serveral of their most recent fights.
Floyd fights Hatton and Marquez they say hes scared of fighting natural WWs. Manny fights the same too fighters they want to throw him a victory parade. Floyd fights Oscar they say hes too old. Manny fights Oscar a year later and age isnt anything but a number.
Bottom line is both sides are dug in and theres nothing anyone can say that will change either sides mind. Right or wrong thats just the way it is.
I can't speak for the can't speak for the casual fan because I am a serious fan. Boxing is the only sport I watch except for mma once in a while if it is free. Mayweather should get full credit for his many clear wins over good fighters. Whether he won in an exciting way or a safety first way should make no difference.I like to watch him he uses fast accurate clean punches and good defense to win. He does not grab you, wrestle you,and try to land illegal holding and hitting punches, like Mosley, Hatton, Berto, and in his fight, Molina do. Being exciting and being good are not the same thing. Kirkland is always exciting but he is not very good in my opinion. Angula, same thing. I think Floyd is fun to watch and of course a great fighter. If he did not brag so much and trash talk other fighters so much I think he would get more respect from the causal fan.
I SIMPLY HAD TO SPEAK ON THIS NONSENSE.
What you dont understand is this. Respect is subjective. I dont respect manny for fighting a sh/#t ton of catchweights.. I dont respect his excuses either, but that means nothing..... Floyd is not looking at you to respect his lifestyle, everyone knows envy comes from the masses, and this is the role Floyd chose to play. Everyone loves darth vader, rick flair, the dallas cowboys. They all have x1 thing in common, they garner much hate and awe at the same time.
While one man speaks his mind, another states GOD has special plans that I guess include whiskey and alcohol advertising. While one man speaks his mind/opinion, the other states what people want to hear, I mean he is a politician right?? While one man counts his money, the other simply cant count and gets beaten by his promoter and associates.... While one man speaks his mind, the other from a third world country pushes the ban of condoms... I know enough about religion to know that PAC is a pretender through and through. He keeps no laws of his supposed faith, yet eats unclean dogs... WAYYIQRA (LEVITICUS)11..... Sports tattoos etc. One pretends to be a religious man, and he really is if you know the meaning and origin of religion, and impregnates whores in his own country.
But the masses always like to point at the bad guy.... heres what Scarface/Floyd has to say about you PAC nutthuggers....
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/1/7/1262854865294/Floyd-Mayweather-001.jpg
What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of ****in' *******s. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your ****in' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy!
What you fail to mention is that Floyd pointed the finger at himself and said, "Please make me the bad guy!!!! Please!!!!"
And also that that's one of the more retarded scenes in Scarface.
Yes i think people dont give Floyd props because people can clearly see Floyd is jealous of what the better fighter Pac has done and dont like Floyds hating on Pac. Jealousy and hate is not an attractive or welcome trait in boxers so people treat floyd how they think he deserves to be treated.
Im looking into my crystal ball, and i believe if Floyd was nicer to Pac and gave him the respect he is due, people might give Floyd his due. WHich might not be as much due as Pac, but he would get what he is owed respect wise.
I SIMPLY HAD TO SPEAK ON THIS NONSENSE.
Im looking into my crystal ball, and i believe if Floyd was nicer to Pac and gave him the respect he is due, people might give Floyd his due. WHich might not be as much due as Pac, but he would get what he is owed respect wise.
What you dont understand is this. Respect is subjective. I dont respect manny for fighting a sh/#t ton of catchweights.. I dont respect his excuses either, but that means nothing..... Floyd is not looking at you to respect his lifestyle, everyone knows envy comes from the masses, and this is the role Floyd chose to play. Everyone loves darth vader, rick flair, the dallas cowboys. They all have x1 thing in common, they garner much hate and awe at the same time.
While one man speaks his mind, another states GOD has special plans that I guess include whiskey and alcohol advertising. While one man speaks his mind/opinion, the other states what people want to hear, I mean he is a politician right?? While one man counts his money, the other simply cant count and gets beaten by his promoter and associates.... While one man speaks his mind, the other from a third world country pushes the ban of condoms... I know enough about religion to know that PAC is a pretender through and through. He keeps no laws of his supposed faith, yet eats unclean dogs... WAYYIQRA (LEVITICUS)11..... Sports tattoos etc. One pretends to be a religious man, and he really is if you know the meaning and origin of religion, and impregnates whores in his own country.
But the masses always like to point at the bad guy.... heres what Scarface/Floyd has to say about you PAC nutthuggers....
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/1/7/1262854865294/Floyd-Mayweather-001.jpg
What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of ****in' *******s. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your ****in' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy!
PBF is rated P4P #1 in some websites...
he makes millions of dollars in his fights...
some cats here form groups in his honor...
he is even in the front cover of a leading pop-culture magazine...
and u still complain he doesn't get props?
what more do u want? a monument?
No I think hes talking in regards to the posters that make straw man arguments against him and everything he does.
BUT I LEARNED A WHILE AGO, THAT BALANCE MUST BE MAINTAINED, SO CONTINUE TO HATE MY MAN....
He doesn't get props because he accuses better fighters of using PEDs when he has no proof at all. He has extreme jealousy for fighters that have actually worked their way to the top. And to top that all off, he's constantly ducking top competition.
Yes i think people dont give Floyd props because people can clearly see Floyd is jealous of what the better fighter Pac has done and dont like Floyds hating on Pac. Jealousy and hate is not an attractive or welcome trait in boxers so people treat floyd how they think he deserves to be treated.
Im looking into my crystal ball, and i believe if Floyd was nicer to Pac and gave him the respect he is due, people might give Floyd his due. WHich might not be as much due as Pac, but he would get what he is owed respect wise.
yeah, yeah, whatever. Stop boasting that u think Floyd is a better fighter than Pac. More people will boast Pac is a better fighter than Floyd, so you wanna argue me and have the last word or something.?
You quoted me sherlock.
I am not arguing that he hasn't accused Pacman. I'm saying he never accused a better fighter sherlock.
yeah, yeah, whatever. Stop boasting that u think Floyd is a better fighter than Pac, your dad is bigger than my dad!. More people will boast Pac is a better fighter than Floyd, so you wanna argue me and have the last word or something.?
Floyd said he never accused Pac of being steroids. Pacs lawsuit says he did.
We will see in court the outcome.
I am not arguing that he hasn't accused Pacman. I'm saying he never accused a better fighter sherlock.
Like I said clearly, he's never accused a better fighter of peds.
Floyd said he never accused Pac of being steroids. Pacs lawsuit says he did.
We will see in court the outcome.
So he didnt accuse the better fighter named Pac he was on peds then?
Floyd dont get props as he should concentrate on his own career more, then he wouldnt be so jealous of what Pac has done and is doing.
Like I said clearly, he's never accused a better fighter of peds.
Floyd has never accused a better fighter of using peds.
So he didnt accuse the better fighter named Pac he was on peds then?
Floyd dont get props as he should concentrate on his own career more, then he wouldnt be so jealous of what Pac has done and is doing.
PBF is rated P4P #1 in some websites...
he makes millions of dollars in his fights...
some cats here form groups in his honor...
he is even in the front cover of a leading pop-culture magazine...
and u still complain he doesn't get props?
what more do u want? a monument?
Some people just won't stop until the entire boxing world is groveling at Mayweather's feet.
Ive been watching some boxing all day today and I realized they gave everyone props for boxing their oppenent rather then going to war with them. I will list the 3 that will relate to who I will be talking about.
1. Marco vs Hamed.
2. Morales vs Pacquaio
3. Marquez vs Pacquaio
and I believe why all these fighters get away with it on these particular fights cause they typically go to war or put on a show only when it is extremely necessary do they go 100% into boxing and 100% into defense, so we give it a slide cause we know they did what they had to do to win.
Now with mayweather, We know he can war and put on a show and win easily but he rather just 100% box and 100% defense and no real prize fighting blood in him (now a days). and since we know he can actually win the fight easily even in a guts and glory type of fight but he rather just do what he has to do to win.
what you guys think
EDIT: forgot to add - this is the mind set of the casual fan (who make up like 90% of the fans) thats why we get people who cant accept the greatness in floyd boxing, they rather see risk etc etc
Two of those fights involve two ATG fighters who gave us very good fights. And Mayweather does get his props all the time.
But go ahead and keep whining.
He doesn't get props because he accuses better fighters of using PEDs when he has no proof at all. He has extreme jealousy for fighters that have actually worked their way to the top. And to top that all off, he's constantly ducking top competition.
Floyd has never accused a better fighter of using peds.
Mayweather kindly gives himself enough 'props' so that everyone else does not have to.
I like mayweather and enjoy his fights but this is extremely true.
There less than a handful of Mayweather fights you could consider boring in his 42 fight career. People don't give him his props because they dislike him.
This. And most knowledgeable ppl do give him props. But casuals and haters will always exist to tell us how boring he is and his his resume is trash.
There less than a handful of Mayweather fights you could consider boring in his 42 fight career. People don't give him his props because they dislike him.