I do believe Floyd should/will fight Sergio, only after Martinez has done away with Chavez jr and has become a legit money maker.
But I noticed that even the most blobbling slurping Manny fans are not asking for Manny to take on Sergio, why not?
Can't say he's too big, he's not too big for Floyd. Plus Sergio is an inch shorter than both Oscar & Tony "The Mason" Margarito.
If Floyd can scrap with Serg, Manny should be able to rite? Aint he the best and would beat Floyd?
Wrong.
Floyd ain't paying Pacquaio more than he's worth. Many of you just don't get that.
I bet if Pacquiao asked Arum for a guaranteed $40 million, Arum would tell him what he told Floyd years back:
"The money just isn't there, Manny!"
I don't even know what it is you are defending. You've been describing Pac as this amateurish boxer who cherrypicked his way to the top by fighting inferior opponents for God knows how many months now. And that Floyd da best would make him look like a clown in the ring. And here you are defending Floyd's 80/20 split, which is obviously a duck move, and won't be getting any cent from it. You're not even mad at your idol for denying you the chance to turn your fantasy into reality. Are you saying Floyd getting his demand is more important to you? You don't want to see the fight? Why? I thought Pac is an easy fight. How much exactly are you getting from this 80/20 split? Why are you so concerned about this? Are you Floyd's boyfriend?
Look at me. I'm different. I'm hoping Manny will just give whatever the clown wants and get the fight over with. Have Manny tested after every round. No training in the Philippines. Allow OST spies loitering around the one-dimensional midget. Arum needs to be fired also. Give Floyd 90 split. You name it. Just make the fight happen. I want to see the fight even though I know Pac is fighting Floyd da best. I won't get a cent, why should I care about the money split?
It's so stupid isn't it? Especially when you think you're an adult with a mature brain. Oh wait...
Plenty of people have pushed for it, including Pac fans. Everybody knows Martinez is overrated as fuck.
Yeah he is so over rated he made the supposed most feared ducked man in boxing go to sleep
He is so over rated that manny won't go near him and Floyd will only fight him at a catchweight of 150.
That's how over rated matinez is.
I can't believe that people are even discussing this. Only online will you see arguments like this. Common sense tells us that there is a huge size difference. You can think of a hundred cutesy ways to pretend that's not the case, but it's common-*****ing -sense.
I like Sergio more than I like Pac, but I wouldn't fault Pac for even a sec for not taking this fight.
Point blank people know that Poochiao would never face Martinez, even at a weight drained 150 limit.
Mayweather-Martinez is more reasonable and being pushed for more because everyone knows that Mayweather has more balls and is heroically willing to go up in weight and face the best and not play catchweight games.
i think the people who are really pushing for this fight are just bitter that pac dragged a 147 opponent with him to JMW, beat him for a belt in the division and ran. pac is small and doesn't belong above 147.
and you think making the fight happen by having pac burdened/slowed by being way overweight a better/rightful proposal?
just asking
Pac doesn't have to put on extra weight if he doesn't want to. He weighed in at 144 for a jr middleweight fight.
Because Pacquiao is not the one they want to see lose...it is Mayweather people want to see lose so yeah they are going to try and push for Mayweather to fight Martinez hoping to see him lose...but I think they would be greatly disappointed if this fight happens, because I think Mayweather would EXPOSE MARTINEZ and all of his weaknesses...especially his lack of Defense and how he keeps his hands down, that works against Slower Guys but a good Boxer with Speed and Quick Hands, is going to pick him apart EASILY and force him to change the way he fights...AND THAT IS WHEN HE WILL GET EXPOSED, when he can't do what he is comfortable doing!
Manny fought a punching bag at a 150lb catch-weight and almost got folded in half with a body shot. Martinez would murder him, that's why Manny isn't fighting him. Only way he is fighting Martinez is if he manages to drain Sergio enough that he becomes ineffective in the ring.
Do i want to see the fight? Absolutely, but it wont happen unless Martinez is weight-drained. If it happens under those circumstances, its not worth making it happen.
and you think making the fight happen by having pac burdened/slowed by being way overweight a better/rightful proposal?
just asking
why push for if pac doesn't want to fight above 147-150 anymore? its like pushing martinez to fight andre Ward. neither guy has to go up anymore, pac has already moved up a ton of weight classes its pretty clear he's maxed out at welterweight.
He'll fight at 150, just not against amrtinez, but remember it was pac that offered this in teh first place, had he kept his illiterate goddamn mouth shut, he wouldnt have anyone clowning him.
PEOPLE conveniently throw up after Margarito that he said never again above 147, but what they fail to see is that PAC told Martinez lets do a catchweight of 150 and then revised his story to 147. He then went on to ask Cotto for a catchweight......
Its PAC changing the tune/station, we were just thrown off while dancing to a certain song to be interrupted with a new song....
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Im gonna pove hes a hypocrite.... WATCH HE NOT GONNA RETIRE ANYTIME SOON, BECAUSE OF HIS FINANCES, AND WE WILL SEE IF HE OBEYS GOD LOL... Ill bet anything!!!! If he does retire he'll come running back and just watch..... Somehow GOD will be put on hold.
Brother Jay you are right, asking to fight for a tittle at a weight limit that is below the standard weight for that tittle is like saying " I need some help." . So Oscar made Hopkin fight at 158 or miss out on all that money. Mr. " everyone is afraid of me." Paul Williams refused to fight Martinez for the 160 lb. tittle unless the limit was lowered to 157. Ray Leonard made both Duran and Hearns fight him for the 168 lb. tittle at a top weight of 164 or miss a big payday. Leonard fought Don Lalonde for the light heavyweight tittle at a limit of 168. People get confused about the 3rd Pac vs. Marquez fight. It was actually Marquez who ask for and got a catchweight of 144. Pac's 147 lb tittle was the tittle they were fighting for. Marquez said "I need some help to win your tittle."
SMH
THESE PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE HISTORIES OF DOING THIS, DOESNT MEAN IT WAS RIGHT... YOU WONT GET A DOUBLE STANDARD OUT OF ME, BUT THIS IS WHAT PAC DOES DAY IN AND DAY OUT.....CATCHWEIGHTS, OR OFF LOSSES...
Ray Leonard and these guys are so high above pac even mentioning them in with PAC IS BLASPHEMY.
It was actually Marquez who ask for and got a catchweight of 144. Pac's 147 lb tittle was the tittle they were fighting for. Marquez said "I need some help to win your tittle."
MAN YOU GUYS ARE TOO MUCH.
Werent you the same poster yesterday saying Pacquiao didnt have to fight Cotto at a weight he was comfortable at?? Well if thats the case, doesnt the same thing apply right now?
Are or you gonna tell me that Pacquiao was forced to agree to this catchweight by a man not even in the same division for his title???
LEMME CHECK SOMETHING OUT.
Marquez offered, Pacquiao obviously accepted and even allowed Marquez to get a fixed 1st round KO in before they met to fool the sheep....
Freedy Roach is on record recorded saying that they thought Marquez had lost a step and that age caught up with him.... LMAO!!! They admitted what you are defending...
Brother Jay you are right, asking to fight for a tittle at a weight limit that is below the standard weight for that tittle is like saying " I need some help." . So Oscar made Hopkin fight at 158 or miss out on all that money. Mr. " everyone is afraid of me." Paul Williams refused to fight Martinez for the 160 lb. tittle unless the limit was lowered to 157. Ray Leonard made both Duran and Hearns fight him for the 168 lb. tittle at a top weight of 164 or miss a big payday. Leonard fought Don Lalonde for the light heavyweight tittle at a limit of 168. People get confused about the 3rd Pac vs. Marquez fight. It was actually Marquez who ask for and got a catchweight of 144. Pac's 147 lb tittle was the tittle they were fighting for. Marquez said "I need some help to win your tittle."
I don't even care for this fight anymore as all Pacquiao would accomplish is getting knocked out. I can understand if he performed well/ dominated both Mosley and Marquez as he was expected to, but that didn't occur, I think we've all now realized how good Pacquiao is, even I got caught up in the myth, so again...I'm perfectly fine with this fight not happening. I can settle for Pacquiao-Khan, Berto, Ortiz, Peterson and Brad Solomon (I can dream?).
Nicamarvin calls Pac a coward about six times a day and you refer to him as a woman. The hate towards him from some guys really seems extreme. Maybe he struggled with Marquez because they are about the same size and Marquez is an all time great. Pac probably will have a hard time with Bradley because Bradley is one hell of a fighter. Please give me that long list of welterweights that would beat Bradley without a struggle. I think if he were fighting someone else you and Nicamarvin would be calling him a woman and a coward for ducking Bradley.
Ms. Pacman will have the fight of her life for the second time in a row in June. Leave her alone, he struggled with a Lightweight and will struggle with a JWW next. He's not even on his own level. Martinez is out the question.