Erik Morales is greater than Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Morales took an almost 3 year vacation :nonono: pacfarts and their lack of knowledge shining through as always :rofl: But Floyd prepared for 2 years to fight JMM as he always knew he wanted to beat at least one pac victim better than Pac did. As Pac was embarassing him by beating his opponents more spectacularly. JMM cant afford that as he fights for a living and he prepares for different opponents on a day to day basis. Cos floyd dont fight for a living he can prepare and specialize in one opponent. So simply put JMM had 6 weeks to train for Floyd, whereas Floyd has 2 years to train for JMM. Floyd is very proffesional and trains like a challenger for all his opponents and never underates people, but the same could be said for Sven Ottke, but that dont make you great. Morales beat Barrera and pac, he took better challenges than Floyd. Yes he lost some but when you fight you do lose. Floyd would have lost if he didnt retire and fought consistently. Thats what happens when you fight regularly.

I wish these floyd fanatics would stop using triangle theories to make a case for Floyd, to excuse the fact he dont fight apart from in fantasy fights.! Raheem this, raheem that! Its Morales fault for underestimating Raheem and not training for him properly and thinking he could just turn up on fight night and be too good for him! But lets not use this to make a case for Floyd beating Morales pls. Morales has fought better fighters than Floyd and taken more risks so, and dont take 1 year luxiuries to prepare for opponents like floyd does. Great fighters never underestimate any other professional boxer. Floyd works equally as hard with a C fighter or an A fighter. Hard work and dedication. Only difference between an A fighter and a C fighter is the level of skill. The level of danger is there for an A fighter or a C fighter. DeMarcus Corley or Zab Judah could have been Floyd's Zahir Raheem. But Floyd is a true great who prepares the same for any class fighter, A, B or C. Trash talk the fighter for the cameras, but take him seriously and professionally inside the ring.

I wish these floyd fanatics would stop using triangle theories to make a case for Floyd, to excuse the fact he dont fight apart from in fantasy fights.! Raheem this, raheem that! Its Morales fault for underestimating Raheem and not training for him properly and thinking he could just turn up on fight night and be too good for him! But lets not use this to make a case for Floyd beating Morales pls. Morales has fought better fighters than Floyd and taken more risks so, and dont take 1 year luxiuries to prepare for opponents like floyd does. Dude what are you idiots smoking? Eric could never beat Raheem. Styles make fights. Eric looks good aganst brawlers and limited slow boxers, but in there with a slick African American he looks like do do!

I wish these floyd fanatics would stop using triangle theories to make a case for Floyd, to excuse the fact he dont fight apart from in fantasy fights.! Raheem this, raheem that! Its Morales fault for underestimating Raheem and not training for him properly and thinking he could just turn up on fight night and be too good for him! But lets not use this to make a case for Floyd beating Morales pls. Morales has fought better fighters than Floyd and taken more risks so, and dont take 1 year luxiuries to prepare for opponents like floyd does.Morales took an almost 3 year vacation :nonono: pacfarts and their lack of knowledge shining through as always :rofl:

I wish these floyd fanatics would stop using triangle theories to make a case for Floyd, to excuse the fact he dont fight apart from in fantasy fights.! Raheem this, raheem that! Its Morales fault for underestimating Raheem and not training for him properly and thinking he could just turn up on fight night and be too good for him! But lets not use this to make a case for Floyd beating Morales pls. If Morales had an unbeaten record to preserve, like it was life and death he may have taken raheem more seriously, like Floyd does all his opponents, as his zero has to be protected even if he was fightin his nan. Morales has fought better fighters than Floyd and taken more risks so, and dont take 1 year luxiuries to prepare for opponents like floyd does.

No he's not. But let's not even get in too deep on this, it's just ridiculous. Morales won 6 titles in 3 weight classes, 7 in 4 if you count his bogus 140 lb title that was really Tim's. Floyd's won 7 titles in 5 weight classes, should be 8 when he beat Mosley but he didn't pay the sanctioning fee's. Erik is an ATG and a HOF fighter, not better than Floyd though. Erik's wins: Zaragoza, J. Jones, Chacon, Ramirez, Barrera (qustionable win), Kelley, Espadas Jr, Chi, Ayala, Velardez, J. Chavez, C. Hernandez, and Pacquiao. Erik's losses: Barrera (twice), Raheem, Pacquiao (twice), Diaz, Maidana, and Garcia. Floyd's wins: G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, J. Chavez, Castillo (2 wins, 1 questionable), Sosa, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, and Ortiz. Erik has the best win of them, but Floyd's resume is still deeper, and he doesn't have the losses Morales has. You can also look at Floyd and see he's a better fighter than Morales. This takes NOTHING away from Morales, and he's a HOF and ATG, but the reasonable and objective people will always say Floyd is better than Erik was. H2H, Floyd would spank Morales. Anyone that thinks Floyd at 130 (1998-2001) would lose to Morales at 130 is high on bird s**t. I don't think anyone beats Floyd at 130, his best weight. And not even a past prime version of Floyd would have ever lost to Zahir Raheem or David Diaz.

I give the edge to Morales. He fought greater fighters, had the more memorable battles and was a greater ambassador to the sport. If it was prime for prime, if they met up at 126ish or even 130, I'd probably favor Morales to be too tough, too strong, too willed for Floyd. Who knows, it'd be a good fight. Overall, I think the respect Morales has from all over plays a part. To reiterate, Morales fought and beat greater fighters than Mayweather has, and for me, that's what pushes it in his favor. The woulda/coulda argument is lame. Lil Floyd stops Morales in less than five at any weight and time in thier career. Just look at that ass whipping Raheem the dream put on Eric Morales. Raheem cant come close to Mayweather in boxing skills but he had enough skills to make Eric look like he couldnt even fight! You idiots are too funny trying to dream up some one to defeat the P4P ATG Boxing king Money Mayweather!

Not even past prime Floyd loses to David Diaz or Zaheer Raheem. And Floyd wouldn't even lose a round to Barrera or Pacquiao. Maidana and Garcia both lose lopsided fights to past it Floyd.

Floyd goes through Morales's resume 60-0, easy, taking candy from a baby. Morales going through Floyd's resume 42-0? Nope.

At no point in his lifetime would erik morales ever be able to beat floyd mayweather jr if they fought. Erik is a greaat champion, a 1st ballot HOF'er and a has given us some legendary fights. But on his best day he would get anhilated by floyd. And thats not a knock on morales but floyd is superior to him in every way! 100% AGREED! These fools just talking man! None of them would put thier money on Eric M. in a Mayweather fight at no point in thier careers! Justa bunch of jealous haters talking out thier ass'es

I give the edge to Morales. He fought greater fighters, had the more memorable battles and was a greater ambassador to the sport. If it was prime for prime, if they met up at 126ish or even 130, I'd probably favor Morales to be too tough, too strong, too willed for Floyd. Who knows, it'd be a good fight. Overall, I think the respect Morales has from all over plays a part. To reiterate, Morales fought and beat greater fighters than Mayweather has, and for me, that's what pushes it in his favor. The woulda/coulda argument is lame.

Ill put it like this If i had to be either Morales or Floyd, Ill pick Morales. Just overall more respected from boxing fans and dont need no out of the ring gimmicks to draw interest in his fights. But then again my greed for that $$$$$ will be the only reason I will ever consider being floyd but the trade off is not worth it to me. I don't know. For better or worse more fans know he Floyd is. And respect from them is one thing, but Floyd gets more respect from actual fighters and trainers. They may just know a little more than the average fan.

It will take a loss before the half the Flomos will jump off FMJ's dick to assess his career properly. At the moment they're riding the '0' hard but the reality is if you have a 0 on your record after 42 pro bouts then you're not taking the fights you were supposed to take when you were supposed to take them. Morales did and came out in credit, that's why he's greater. There's only onnnnnnne Ricky Hatton!!! Anyways Floyd>Morales

Lol at the Manny nuthuggers getting all mad when people point out that Morales was past it and a beaten man when Manny finally beat him.

Ill put it like this If i had to be either Morales or Floyd, Ill pick Morales. Just overall more respected from boxing fans and dont need no out of the ring gimmicks to draw interest in his fights. But then again my greed for that $$$$$ will be the only reason I will ever consider being floyd but the trade off is not worth it to me.

He was past prime when he beat Pac. That wasn't a prime Morales. Barrera was past prime when he officially beat Morales in the rematch. Saw his fights against Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez. If you think that was a prime Morales. Then it's whatever. I saw Morales in his prime. Those version of Morales wasn't a prime a Morales. Far from it. Morales looked so poor against Raheem it was ridiculous. Sad to watch.

Good examples you can add Douglas and Tyson here. But Saddler and Jones had to poor recrords to be comparable with Pep and MAB..and Barrera has beaten Erik and McKinney who both TKO Jones saddler had a poor record?!?!?!?!!?

Morales was really past prime by the time he fought Raheem. Borderline shot fighter. In a terrible weight-class for Morales. He was already on his 4 weight-class going along with being way past prime borderline shot. how was he "really" past prime vs raheem? he'd lost only to barrera and was coming off a win over pacquiao

I understand your points but this has will always be the way Boxing operates. No one forces fighters from all over the world to fight in America. It's their choice but for most fighters, there is no better place to fight for a pay check. You can't hold it against Mayweather that he doesn't fight outside of America because it simply doesn't make sense. Besides Morales fighting in Mexico is basically the same thing. There is no time zone difference and really no difference between the desert of Vegas and the desert of Mexico. I'm sorry but the whole he doesn't travel doesn't hold much water in boxing especially when majority of the fight fans aren't even on the Americans side. It has been like this for ages. I don't actually hold it against Mayweather, I shouldn't have used him as an example as it attracts the wrong kind of debate. However, extra credit should be given to a fighter like Morales for leaving his backyard and taking on some of the best away from home and as explained above it's not just about time-zones. Another example, no one can tell me it wasn't tougher for Carl Froch to go to Denmark and fight Mikkel Kessler in front of a partisan viking crowd than it was for Calzaghe to fight Kessler at home in front of a stadium of 74,000 of roaring Welsh fans. If Froch had got the win, imo it would have been worth more than Joe's win largely on that basis (unfortunately for CF he didn't get it done). You might not attach much importance as to the 'where' but I think it's definitely something which carries a degree of significance when debating resumes.

It would be good for his resume to beat Pac anywhere. No doubt, but a much tougher ask over there. No it isn't. Whens the last time Manny Pacquaio fought outside of America or any big name in the sport. You start off in your country and then you move to America to become a star. Since an American is born in America they obviously start their career and if they become a star, like Floyd they fight in America. It's the same with any star. Sergio Martinez will probably never fight outside of America again. Amir Khan will likely never fight outside of American again unless it's in his home country. Manny Pacquaio will never fight outside America again. What don't you understand about America being the spot where superstars fight? lol take your stars and stripes shades off for a second brother :usa1: and first look at the importance of home advantage in sport generally then look at boxing and the particular emphasis fighters place on trying to secure a home bout and all the advantages which lie therein. Forget the US patriotism for a second and tell me that Paulie Malignaggi fighting Senchenko in the Ukraine isn't going to be a much tougher bout to win than if he fought him in New York City. Tell me that it wasn't tougher for B-Hop to get the win over Pascal in Canada than it would have been in his hometown - hell these guys will tell you themselves! When fighters are taken out of their zone away from home comforts we find out what they're made of and how strong their character is and yes, how good they are. A win away from home is always going to look better in any sport and this is especially the case with boxing where the mental edge is so important and corruption with judges is rife. Being from the US I wouldn't expect you to understand it as your fighters mostly fight at home, but try to picture Rocky when he beat Drago in front of all those Russians, they staged the fight there for a reason, it wouldn't have been the same if he'd won it in the MGM or somewhere safe :) An away win is better in your opponent's backyard is better on any resume than a home win. The guy is a troll........ The troll guy should ask himself this question............ Why has Pacquiao, delahoya,Mayweather,tyson, Holyfield, Leonard, Hagler,hearns,Duran, all fought their biggest fights in Vegas? Because thats where they make the most money. No one's disputing that, given the choice however all the foreign fighters you mentioned would not have fought anywhere but their hometown. Why? because it's easier to win at home and tougher to win away from home, that's sport and that's boxing.