Which fight does more for Floyds legacy?

amongst hardcore fans it's martinez at this moment in time, but amongst the general public, the pacquiao fight would do more for his legacy, imo.

You won't see a change in odds until money starts coming in and who's going to bet on a fight that hasn't even been signed? Difference being those fights were signed...? So are you guys saying that the odds maker are going to drop the odds to 1/1 once it's signed? The day of of the fight Ortiz was a 4/1 underdog, Cotto right now is a 5/1, which will probably come down to 3/1 on fight night, are you saying that the Pac's odds are gonna go up?

the pacquiao fight would be bigger for his legacy. mayweather could go to 160 and fight anyone with a title and when we look back on it years down the road he probably won't be criticized too much for not fighting martinez. but he'll still get credit for being a however many divisions/titles champion. if martinez doesn't beat mayweather/pacquiao or move up and beat some of the top guys at 168 he'll just be remembered as a guy who had some decent wins against pavlik and williams. if mayweather moved up and beat martinez he'd get some serious credit from the hardcore fans RIGHT NOW. but i'm looking at this in more of a long-term light. you know 20 years down the road when theres probably even more ridiculous ABC titles and fake/paper champs and martinez was just some guy who was "a decent titlist", people will be saying he ducked pacquiao. The stats will still be there to be seen after 20 years. You have to realize that Martinez is not just another title holder. He is on a great run of victories at 160 Pounds. Since losing to Williams in a very close fight he has won all of his fights convincingly. Mayweather going up to 160 Pounds and defeating Martinez will be a better finishing touch to his legacy than fighting Pacquiao at this particular time.

Winning a title in your 6th weight class/3rd Ring title with your 1 Lineal title in a 50-50 fight>Winning the WW championship again. Luckily, we might get Mayweather-Martinez, because the Pac fight is just not happening while Pacquiao is with Bob Arum. I thought legacy-enhancing starts with furthering your accomplishments? How does winning a title in your 6th weight class and adding a new Ring title to your resume is not greater than winning some big money prize fight against a guy who might not even make it through Timothy Bradley and got a gift against Marquez?

It's like this Martinez at any 154/160 does more for Floyd's legacy. Because he is frankly better than any fighter Floyd has ever faced in his entire career at the time Floyd fought them. I don't think that one can even debate that. Meanwhile it should be obvious by now that Floyd & Pacman are not the same class of fighter. Floyd can adapt & change style/gears whatever as needed in a fight. Pacman fights only one way. Move & the fight is winnable. I know that many feel Floyd beats Martinez. I wonder what is fans are gonna say when Floyd blatantly avoids him. I beat they're gonna pull a page right put of the Pacman fan handbook & say that weight doesn't matter, he would have beat him anyway, so there's no need.

We all know who's the favorite, that's not what you said, you said he was the "heavy favorite". Mayweather vs Ortiz opened up at 10/1, Mayweather vs Cotto opened up at 8/1, now it's at 5/1. Pacquiao vs Mayweather opened up at 2/1 and it hasn't changed in 3 years.:thinking: You won't see a change in odds until money starts coming in and who's going to bet on a fight that hasn't even been signed?

the pacquiao fight would be bigger for his legacy. mayweather could go to 160 and fight anyone with a title and when we look back on it years down the road he probably won't be criticized too much for not fighting martinez. but he'll still get credit for being a however many divisions/titles champion. if martinez doesn't beat mayweather/pacquiao or move up and beat some of the top guys at 168 he'll just be remembered as a guy who had some decent wins against pavlik and williams. if mayweather moved up and beat martinez he'd get some serious credit from the hardcore fans RIGHT NOW. but i'm looking at this in more of a long-term light. you know 20 years down the road when theres probably even more ridiculous ABC titles and fake/paper champs and martinez was just some guy who was "a decent titlist", people will be saying he ducked pacquiao.

good question

If the fight were to get signed next year tons of Mayweather money would be pouring in and you know it. We all know who's the favorite, that's not what you said, you said he was the "heavy favorite". Mayweather vs Ortiz opened up at 10/1, Mayweather vs Cotto opened up at 8/1, now it's at 5/1. Pacquiao vs Mayweather opened up at 2/1 and it hasn't changed in 3 years.:thinking:

Sergio fight at 160 is winnable and over time would mean a lot more than the Manny fight. He would sure earn some mad respect after that one. Not that there aren't people that already give him lots of credit.

Sorry but the whole world doesn't write boxing history. Martinez is the way bigger challenge at 160. Floyd is the heavy favourite against Pac, and Pac just lost to Marquez. Since when did 1/2 become a heavy favorite? http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing-mma/boxing/floyd-mayweather-jr-v-manny-pacquiao/winner

The Pacquiao fight has lost it's shine. Even the biggest Pacquiao fans if they are being honest know that Mayweather beats him. Martinez is the only challenge for Mayweather.

You're entitled to your opinion but other great lightweight champs like Delahoya, Armstrong, Duran all lost in their 160 lb title bids. Floyd would be the first out of that group to do so, and would simultaneously tie the record for most lineal titles won by a fighter in history. That means more to me for a fighter's legacy than beating a guy who was outboxed in his last bout. ^^^^^ Exactly

Do you remember all the tough strong guys Hagler beat at 160. Or the Hearns war he won. The Bigger name will echo through boxing history. True Story right here^^^^^:boxing:

Manny. The Whole world would remember it. A Sergio fight would only elevate him in the eyes of the hardcore fans of boxing. totally agree. pacquiao is such a name that the hype machine actually convinced people that it's a pick 'em fight. it's a 'greater' feat in the eyes of many. martinez would just be another name on the list unfortunately. people on the streets would scoff off that victory without grasping what floyd had actually accomplished.

Sorry but the whole world doesn't write boxing history. Martinez is the way bigger challenge at 160. Floyd is the heavy favourite against Pac, and Pac just lost to Marquez. Do you remember all the tough strong guys Hagler beat at 160. Or the Hearns war he won. The Bigger name will echo through boxing history.

Fighting Martinez at 160 definitely does more for Floyd's legacy.

for real boxing fans Segio but for bragging rights Manny.

Manny. The Whole world would remember it. A Sergio fight would only elevate him in the eyes of the hardcore fans of boxing. I totally agree.

Manny. The Whole world would remember it. A Sergio fight would only elevate him in the eyes of the hardcore fans of boxing.