I'm not trolling, OR am I trying to stir s.hit up here. But have any of the racist Klitschko fans ever come to think the reason Wladimir is where he is today, is due to the teachings of African-American Emmanuel Steward? Mind you, Wladimir had natural talent before hand and has gotten where he's at today due to himself to an extent. But he's become a much more cerebral dominant boxer due to Emmanuel's teachings. Something to think about, maybe? Mind you this is NOT towards the Wlad fans that AREN'T racist, this is due to the ones who constantly bash and are disrespectful towards Americans, namely Americans of color. Once again, this thread isn't meant to disrespect, cause animosity or anything inbetween, just a point I'm trying to make. That is all.
I'm not trolling, OR am I trying to stir s.hit up here. But have any of the racist Klitschko fans ever come to think the reason Wladimir is where he is today, is due to the teachings of African-American Emmanuel Steward? Mind you, Wladimir had natural talent before hand and has gotten where he's at today due to himself to an extent. But he's become a much more cerebral dominant boxer due to Emmanuel's teachings. Something to think about, maybe? Mind you this is NOT towards the Wlad fans that AREN'T racist, this is due to the ones who constantly bash and are disrespectful towards Americans, namely Americans of color. Once again, this thread isn't meant to disrespect, cause animosity or anything inbetween, just a point I'm trying to make. That is all.
steward has gotten a lot of credit for improving wlad. not sure why you think he hasnt
I want to thank Steward for making Wlad the cautious and boring fighter he is today. After turning Lennox from the exciting warrior who demolished Razor Ruddock to the cautious and boring fighter who gave us 12 uninspiring rounds with Tua.
I'm not trolling, OR am I trying to stir s.hit up here. But have any of the racist Klitschko fans ever come to think the reason Wladimir is where he is today, is due to the teachings of African-American Emmanuel Steward? Mind you, Wladimir had natural talent before hand and has gotten where he's at today due to himself to an extent. But he's become a much more cerebral dominant boxer due to Emmanuel's teachings. Something to think about, maybe? Mind you this is NOT towards the Wlad fans that AREN'T racist, this is due to the ones who constantly bash and are disrespectful towards Americans, namely Americans of color. Once again, this thread isn't meant to disrespect, cause animosity or anything inbetween, just a point I'm trying to make. That is all.
Screw the majority of the Klitschko fans. The Klitschko's are good guys and give mad props to all the greats from the past that happen to be Americans. I'm talking about HW greats. The Klitschko fans don't represent the Klitschko's. The Klitschko's would be ashamed of their fans if they seen the way they were acting. The "bad" Klitschko fans can go take a flying fuuuk! haha
they hate the fact that nobody talks about them much, so all they do is start stupid threads because they know the stupid people on this forum will take the bait and start to argue with them and that is all they want
And another thing Tunney, what you said goes BOTH ways, "Maybe if people respected the Klitschko's and their fans and see what happens" It IS a two way street man, and you know that's true.
And when you see people making stupid comments about the Klitschko's, alot of the time they're blatant trolls with like 20 posts, if that to their credit. So sometimes stupid troll comments don't warrant responses.
What you fail to understand is the effect over time on Klitschko fans of the obsessive, racist Klitschko haters.
Some of the haters are racists like IMDAZED, Jedi Vader and DiegoFuego, some of them annoying self-loathing white guys like poet.
For example, poet has for many years repeatedly called me a "Nazi" for being a Klitschko fan. A Nazi is a German National Socialist.
The wierdest part about it, is that I have NO German heritage at all, while poet has said in the past that he's partly of German heritage. :thinking:
People should try to just be a bit more respectful toward the Klitschkos and their fans, and see what happens.While to an extent Tunney, you're right. But please don't tell me you respect and/or agree with Klitschko2009's actions, I mean how many times has he been banned. And mind you, there is some Klitschko haters on here, but not all of them take it to the racial level, something I've seen Klitschko fans do, also mind what I said "This is towards the RACIST Klitschko fans, not the ones who AREN'T racist". I have respect for you Tunney, you're a good poster who I've had really good boxing conversations with, I wasn't directing this at you.
aww you madd bro? :DOnce again, no nothing has hurt me in a personal way, but the ignorance I've seen displayed by alot of Klitschko fans on here, since the day I became a member of this site back in '09 is astonishing, that is all.
This is going to go down hill fast TS, and yes Manny has made Wlad a more complete fighter it takes alot of ppl not just the hard work of the athletes to produce great champions.You may be right spray, just a point I felt like making. And if anyone gets butthurt about this thread, by doing that, they'll expose exactly what I'm referencing by making this thread.
No, honestly. It's just that I've been on here awhile, and have seen some ****ed up stuff said. It was just a point I felt like making, that really can't be argued.