As Gatti said when he retired ima fighter without a weight...
Cotto is too big for 147 and too small for 154.
Im a huge Cotto fan but regardless of the title he holds at 154 we know that there are lots of boxers at 154 that would give him fits..
Its a bit of a shame but thats boxing for you... I expect him to weigh about 152 for the Floyd fight and Floyd to weigh about 150
Cotto could make 147 if he really wanted to. Back when he was in his uncles boxing gym, he had 2 hour daily sessions from what I experienced. I don't know if that slowly increased at the peak of his training. I don't know if that has changed either since he has abandoned training in PR and has moved his camps to Florida. Maybe he drained himself at 40 for so long that he stays away from it. He used to drain himself to a point that he was in a bad mood till right after the weigh in and did that up to the Paulie fight.
He has a cook that he takes with him to training camp and he takes care of his diet.
I would think that Kirkland would be the biggest threat to Cotto in LMW. I agree that the fight can go so many ways but suspect that one of 2 is the most likely. Kirkland gets caught coming in and laid out or he pushes cotto back and overwhlelms him. The carrot head is big and would be tough for Cotto for 12 rounds. All the others I see very beatable.
He does have a weight class it's called Junior Middle Weight. Folks forget the weight class is not 154 is 148-154.
Exactly, if you can't come in at 147 but can make anywhere between 154 you are a Jr MW.
If Cotto has to give a few pounds to be in his optimum fighting weight then he should keep at the JrMW level.
To shed to a weight when you can't no more is too dibilitating
Please, as if boxing didn't have enough weight classes already! Gatti was ridiculous for saying that stupid sh!t that he was too big for 140 and too small for 147, and now you're even worse for applying it to Cotto. It's just more excuses. What do you propose, creating a 144 and a 150 weight class? Boxing would even more of a joke than it is today.
Imagine if this was the 50s - you were either a WW or MW. SRR fought Lamotta weighing 144-145 to Jake's 160, and I don't remember him complaining.
If Cotto is "too small" for 154, then lose some f*cking weight and go to WW, simple as that. Also, if he's too small for that weight, then Floyd must be beyond miniscule, as he steped in the ring weighing 148 against ODLH.
LOL its not the 1950's asmuch as iwish boxing was structured that way and wasnt saying anything about making new weight classes... I said thats boxing.. If Miguel can make 147 and is fighting at 154 and is regarded as the best in that weight division that makes me happy lol
Please, as if boxing didn't have enough weight classes already! Gatti was ridiculous for saying that stupid sh!t that he was too big for 140 and too small for 147, and now you're even worse for applying it to Cotto. It's just more excuses. What do you propose, creating a 144 and a 150 weight class? Boxing would even more of a joke than it is today.
Imagine if this was the 50s - you were either a WW or MW. SRR fought Lamotta weighing 144-145 to Jake's 160, and I don't remember him complaining.
If Cotto is "too small" for 154, then lose some f*cking weight and go to WW, simple as that. Also, if he's too small for that weight, then Floyd must be beyond miniscule, as he steped in the ring weighing 148 against ODLH.
He could be a welterweight and make the weight, but he's still the best JMW around right now. I could see alot of them challenging him, but not one beats him to me, including Kirkland. I think Kirkland's chin would betray him, constantly coming forward against Cotto, you need an iron chin like Margarito, Clottey.
How does a challenge against solid opposition signify that someone isn't meant for the weight class?
Because i believe that Cotto is a better boxer than them allbut in thisweight division they would have the size and power advantage
cotto looks like a chubby jr MW to me
there's no way inhell he cant make 147 any more
he is not that big. he made 145 for the pacquiao fight without looking that emaciated.
he campaigning at 154 for the big money fight against margarito, and the easy as pie world title against yuri foreman.
he's a WW
i've heard plenty of rumors that he doesnt even train that hard
maybe an hour or two a day
it was in an interview with miguel torres (an mma fighter who trained with cotto in tampa,)
My thoughts exactly. They showed him on 24-7 eating lasagna. He could easily make 147 if his nutrition was right. All he has to do is stay away from moms cooking. He is an absolute welter.
I dunno bro. I think Kirkland, Bundrage, Williams, Molina, Trout, Vanes and Lara would all give him trouble.. Not saying they would all beat him but they would all give him a good fight
How does a challenge against solid opposition signify that someone isn't meant for the weight class?
I'm really interested in Cotto-Kirkland. I say Cotto by KO due to an accumilation of punches. And why isn't anyone bring up Kirkland's weak ass chin?
because cotto has morphed into what is essentially a pure boxer now
the last time we saw him bore forward was after foreman's knee blew out, and even then he was cautious (and foreman has next to zero power)
cotto could really crack at 140, and at 147 he still had fight changing power and combinations, but against a monster like kirkland he's going to be backing up all night.
if he can stay off the ropes he has a good chance of picking him off with something and hitting him on the chin
but if he cant stay in the center of the ring he'll end up on his bicycle
it would be a viscious fight, my dominican friend
cotto has two things going for him against kirkland
timing
and his jab
kirklands got faster hands, a better gas tank, faster feet, the much bigger punch
i'd favor kirkland via knockout but wouldnt be surprised at all if cotto boxed with him for 12 rounds and landed the cleaner shots
cotto is still one of the planet's best boxers, even though he's faded now and he moved away from boxing during his tenure at 140 and pre margarito at 147
he boxed pretty damn well against margarito, the guy i'd say is most simmilar to kirkland in the division (without the power and with a hell of a chin.)
It's a fight I'd like to see, more so Cotto-Lara as Lara to me is overrated, dude can't fight on the inside, looked average against Brewer and Molina.
Kirkland-Cotto can go so many ways it ain't even funny, 50-50, any outcome wouldn't surprise me.
As i said im a massive fan of Cotto and i think he is bit out his comfort zone in this division but its reassuring that people think different. I hope your right.
Its amazing how much his style has changed in recent years and im hoping that with his new trainer we see even more improvement in this fight with Floyd.
Thats the one thing his career has lacked is a good trainer but thats Cottos own fault.. He should have ditched evangelista YEARS AND YEARS AGO but its hard when its family
How come you have so many points and you only joined this year? How do you even get points lol... Something ihave never really been that fussed about or asked about
You just gotta know some people homey haha
Kirkland-Cotto can go so many ways it ain't even funny, 50-50, any outcome wouldn't surprise me.
it would be a viscious fight, my dominican friend
cotto has two things going for him against kirkland
timing
and his jab
kirklands got faster hands, a better gas tank, faster feet, the much bigger punch
i'd favor kirkland via knockout but wouldnt be surprised at all if cotto boxed with him for 12 rounds and landed the cleaner shots
cotto is still one of the planet's best boxers, even though he's faded now and he moved away from boxing during his tenure at 140 and pre margarito at 147
he boxed pretty damn well against margarito, the guy i'd say is most simmilar to kirkland in the division (without the power and with a hell of a chin.)
I don't think Cotto too small he's just shorter then average middleweights which is about margaritos height 5'10-11. But he's good there. He has the boxing ability to box the ears off those bigger badder junior middleweights like kirkland and alavarez. I think he's the legit #1 Jr Middleweight. The only way alvarez can even challenge that is make his title be worth something by defending it against a world class junior middleweight like kirkland or Rodriquez.
Kirkland will be the man soon though. I imagine Cotto will be at 147 shortly to fight paciquao again. I think he will beat mayweather
How come you have so many points and you only joined this year? How do you even get points lol... Something ihave never really been that fussed about or asked about
LOL so are we saying that Kirkland is the best at LM? I cant really see anyone other than Martinez beating him at that weight tbh..
Kirklands style is all wrong for Cotto imo
Kirkland-Cotto can go so many ways it ain't even funny, 50-50, any outcome wouldn't surprise me.
That's expected considering where Cotto is at in this stage in his career, also the division too. Even though those guys could give him problems, those are also very winnable fights for him, VERY. I'd pick him to beat Lara, Williams (Now that he's taken far too much punishment), Vanes, Molina and D-Rod. Kirkland is a problem as Cotto would need to accumulate a serious amount of damage early on to safely win a decision, or get rid of him, he's capable of that too. It's not me overrating Cotto either, it's that I honestly don't see how 154 is viewed as a strong division, plenty of these fighters have serious weaknesses, aren't facing each other and no one has made the attempt to stand out, set aside themselves from everyone else.
LOL so are we saying that Kirkland is the best at LM? I cant really see anyone other than Martinez beating him at that weight tbh..
Kirklands style is all wrong for Cotto imo
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