Donaire P4P No3?

# 1. I guess I don't know **** about boxing. # 2. I'm stating my opinion on how I believe P4P should be ranked...IMO Klits and SOG Ward should be top. They have literally cleared the weight Division. Anyone can move up in weight win Alphabet title. Example Last night Nonito won a title against C class. Not to discredit Manny but neither him nor May DOMINATE divisions heck they won't even fight each other. Based on that I cannot consider them P4P. Roy Jones, Trinidad a decade ago were dominating their weight classes that's how they got to be #1 #2 and even Floyd back then was doing his thing. Today no. Let me use your own logic. Do you think Ward could beat the weakest champ at light heavyweight, let alone the cruiser weight and heavyweight? should be easy right? LOL, just in case you didnt know, they put a weight divisions for a reason, just like your own logic, Donaire was dominating the lower division but when he moved up to 122, his power and speed were affected.

I cant believe they havent locked this non sense yet. This is NSB.. Non SENSE boxing. Nonito is right now top 15 ATG if you dont agree you dont know **** about boxing. Pacquaio ko, tko and won a one sided decision in his last 13 fights except against fellow HOF fighter Marquez while moving up in many weight classes. Now insert any current fighter in Pacquaios position fighting the same opponents and weight classes Pac went through. Do you think someone can duplicate Pacs feat? I dont think so. Pacquaios p4p status are based on his resume and obstacles he overcame that seems near impossible to achieved. Floyd being a p4p#1 back then was based on his skills not by beating shot past prime Oscar, junior welterweight ring post Hatton, lightweight weight cheated Marquez, granpa overtrained Mosley and sucker punched Ortiz, plus endless fake retirements and vacations. # 1. I guess I don't know **** about boxing. # 2. I'm stating my opinion on how I believe P4P should be ranked...IMO Klits and SOG Ward should be top. They have literally cleared the weight Division. Anyone can move up in weight win Alphabet title. Example Last night Nonito won a title against C class. Not to discredit Manny but neither him nor May DOMINATE divisions heck they won't even fight each other. Based on that I cannot consider them P4P. Roy Jones, Trinidad a decade ago were dominating their weight classes that's how they got to be #1 #2 and even Floyd back then was doing his thing. Today no.

To me P4P should be based on a fighter's ability to dominate current division or surrounding divisions. Just like people talk about P4P hardest hitting fighters. With that Logic Andre Ward has done more dominating in his division than Pac, May, and Marquez. Pac Really has no Division, May has not really fought the Top 147 fighters in the last 4 ys there. Marquez been skipping divisions as well. Pacquaio ko, tko and won a one sided decision in his last 13 fights except against fellow HOF fighter Marquez while moving up in many weight classes. Now insert any current fighter in Pacquaios position fighting the same opponents and weight classes Pac went through. Do you think someone can duplicate Pacs feat? I dont think so. Pacquaios p4p status are based on his resume and obstacles he overcame that seems near impossible to achieved (106-154, 4 lineal titles, 8 division titles). Floyd being a p4p#1 back then was based on his skills not by beating shot past prime Oscar, junior welterweight ring post Hatton, lightweight weight cheated Marquez, granpa overtrained Mosley and sucker punched Ortiz, plus endless fake retirements and vacations.

I cant believe they havent locked this non sense yet. This is NSB.. Non SENSE boxing. Nonito is right now top 15 ATG if you dont agree you dont know **** about boxing.

:eek: He should have been disqualified for lack of class?? Lack of principle and discipline?? Are you insane. He is an incredible fighter, amazing athlete, ATG boxer. You don't get there without discipline and principle. I can see those are two qualities you know nothing about. And BTW why do you say Floyd is ghetto? What makes him ghetto? Clueless? Read my sig!

To me P4P should be based on a fighter's ability to dominate current division or surrounding divisions. Just like people talk about P4P hardest hitting fighters. With that Logic Andre Ward has done more dominating in his division than Pac, May, and Marquez. Pac Really has no Division, May has not really fought the Top 147 fighters in the last 4 ys there. Marquez been skipping divisions as well. Well in the last 4 years, Mayweather has something at WW that Pac does not have, and that's a win over the #1 WW. Pac fights guys with names, former #1 guys, former champions etc, everything former and if not then it's a catchweight. But I agree, Andre Ward has a case of being the absolute best right now.

To me P4P should be based on a fighter's ability to dominate current division or surrounding divisions. Just like people talk about P4P hardest hitting fighters. With that Logic Andre Ward has done more dominating in his division than Pac, May, and Marquez. Pac Really has no Division, May has not really fought the Top 147 fighters in the last 4 ys there. Marquez been skipping divisions as well.

P4P is all opinion. Anyone can make a list and put whoever they want on it. I agree with this. Too many people go by what The Ring or common acceptance is. I make my own lists depending on who I think is the best and who I think won or lost a fight. For example, I truly saw Marquez win against Pacquiao, so Marquez is my top 5 P4P while Pacquiao drops way down after also fighting Margarito and Mosley. Margarito who was not a 10 fighter, and Mosley who hadn't win a fight in 2 years and a half.

My Top 5 P4P #1 Mayweather #2 Ward #3 Martinez The only guys who can beat these^ guys right now is eachother. Ward can beat Martinez, Martinez-Mayweather is 50-50, I think they can both beat eachother. But within their weight classes, nobody beats them except eachother. From 140-154 no one beats Floyd, at 154-168 no one beats Martinez. I also like Dirrell over Martinez but Dirrell needs to build his name back up after that long lay off. Now if we're reaching and say a Light Heavyweight comes down to fight Martinez at a catchweight, then i'd say Hopkins and Dawson can beat Martinez, but then again that's already reaching. #4 Marquez #5 Wlad #6-10, fill it up with whoever you want, don't really care. So in conclusion, Mayweather, Ward, Martinez, Marquez and Wlad are the absolute best fighters boxing has to offer right now, IMO.

P4P is all opinion. Anyone can make a list and put whoever they want on it.

What is P4P anyways? Really if we were to state who truly is p4p people would go crazy...Because he fights in a weak division.

That's your prediction, not fact. If Barry McGuigan's accomplishments were enough to make it in, I see no reason why Donaire's currently would not be. If Eddie Booker isn't in the HOF, I don't see any reason why Donaire would be.

Corboda is a 40+ veteran that is huge at the weight, a southpaw that has mixed it up with the top notch fighters. Rigondeux beat him convincingly in only his 6th or 7th pro fight ffs Donaire has had 30 pro fights & is apparently this & that yet looking far from great vs tiny C level fighters. Corboda> Vazquez Jr. Cordoba was past prime man. Who best wins is probably getting robbed by Sydorenko 3-4 years prior. Besides that he didn't have a win of note in years going into the Rigo bout. If Rigo is "this & that" he shouldn't be had the trouble with Cordoba. I wouldn't say that version of Cordoba>>>>This version of WV2.

Nonito is on the edge of the top 10, no higher.

Andre Ward is much closer to p4p number 3 than Donaire is. OP is an idiot.

He should be, but people doesn't now **** about small divisions. It seems that you have to fight on HBO and around the overrated WW division to get props. Narvaez, is a great win, Narvaez is a better figter than Victor Ortiz for exemple, he's a two divisions champion, he defended his WBO title about 15 times, Donaire beat him 120-108. Take in count the Montiel KO, Donaire was the fighter of the year 2011 in my opinion. Donaire has great wins over good lineal champions, he koed Vic and Montiel quite easely. He's a 4 divisions world champion, he's at least a border line Hall of famer, I think titles in 4 divisions against good opposition makes you an Hall of Famer IMO just JMO. narvaez was pretty good but at the 2 weight divisions below where donaire fought him so i dont count that as a great win. he's actually only a 3 division champ since he only won an interim belt at 115 but winning belts is basically meaningless now since you can cherry pick and win easy belts such as donaire's win against vasquez last night or such as arce fighting the same unknown guy to win 2 of his. what counts is resume not belts and donaire's resume is actually pretty good compared to most modern fighters in this era of frauds. let's hope he fights nishioka and rigo instead of cherry picking matchups that suit him.

He should be, but people doesn't now **** about small divisions. It seems that you have to fight on HBO and around the overrated WW division to get props. Narvaez, is a great win, Narvaez is a better figter than Victor Ortiz for exemple, he's a two divisions champion, he defended his WBO title about 15 times, Donaire beat him 120-108. Take in count the Montiel KO, Donaire was the fighter of the year 2011 in my opinion. Donaire has great wins over good lineal champions, he koed Vic and Montiel quite easely. He's a 4 divisions world champion, he's at least a border line Hall of famer, I think titles in 4 divisions against good opposition makes you an Hall of Famer IMO just JMO. Neither Montiel nor Darchinyan were lineal champs when Donaire fought. Lets not talk about people not knowing about the smaller weight-class when it's obvious that you don't either.

I can only imagine if all of these guys that are biitching now saw Rigo's dominating fight against Cordoba :lol1: Corboda is a 40+ veteran that is huge at the weight, a southpaw that has mixed it up with the top notch fighters. Rigondeux beat him convincingly in only his 6th or 7th pro fight ffs Donaire has had 30 pro fights & is apparently this & that yet looking far from great vs tiny C level fighters. Corboda> Vazquez Jr.

is fighting stupid one of the criteria for p4p status then? ok so then donaire has two classic examples from his past two fights to place him pretty high up there.

Who has Rigo beaten, koed in his career?? Same for Gamboa, I think Gamboa beat Donaire, but this mainly because he's a bigger fighter, Donaire is a blown up career super flyweight while Gamboa is a big strong featherweight. Donaire fought in a new division, had a broken hand, outboxed and dropped the guy, and yet te guy is an hypejob. What do you expect??Donaire fought stupid wanting to impress but Vasquez jr is a world champion, not the bum of the month. glad you realise that.