eff em both, honestly!

first it was mayweather, having never demanded ost he turned into a drug crusader.. after the pacquiao camp said they would take the test, he put his hands to his ears and said "la la la la la..." now that mayweather actually wants to fight, it's pacquiao.. being the same cunt he swore he would never be. refusing to fight because.. . . ??? i dunno.. someone tell me. unless Mayweather fights Martinez at 154, i'm not watching anymore of his fights. but as another poster said, he probably is just saying he'll fight Martinez to save face cus he knows damn well Martinez hasn't made 150 in like 9 years. and there really isn't any other opponent other than Floyd I want to see Pacquiao face either.. so until either one of them fights each other, they can both go eff themselves and their PPVs. You have successfully achieved a false equivalency. Both are not equally guilty of not fighting each other. To believe anything Bob Arum has claimed about past negotiations is at the height of naiveté. One person is responsible for this fight not happening and his name is Bob Arum. Pacquiao isn't ducking anyone; his promoter has correctly conjectured that a bout with Mayweather would seriously affect his revenue flow. This is simple economics. To claim both of them are responsible is to raise them to the same level, and in Pacquiao's darkest hour render him some relief by claiming the other guy is just as bad as he is. Not so brother, not so....

Here comes the "both", now that Mayweather can no longer be blamed at this moment. Ll yep. Sin City always does this. The both crap. This is what happens when extreme Floyd haters can't defend who ever Floyd's rival is, they just bring in the "it's both of them" line.

first it was floyd now its pacquiao... they should just sign for a trilogy

Floyd ASKING for the OST didn't kill the fight the first time. Manny and his team AGREED to it, THEN they changed their stance. That ain't on Floyd. Period. pp ignore this because they didnt really follow the first negotiations. not only that but floyd even moved off the no cutoff date. still, team pac walked away. that means this time and last time, it was team pac that walked away from the fight.

Floyd ASKING for the OST didn't kill the fight the first time. Manny and his team AGREED to it, THEN they changed their stance. That ain't on Floyd. Period.

Dont you love it how some Pac retards can only bash Pac if they bash Floyd as well ,,,, dont matter that Floyd is chasing the fight to happen like a Greyhound and Manny is running from the fight like a rabbit lol . I can see clearly what type of realist you are lol .

so whats next? One of the two loses his next fight .... and that's the ball game!!!

In all honesty it seems like they're taking turns fvckin up this fight ... Episode one = Floyd & OST Episode two = Arum & GBP Episode three = Arum & Pac so whats next?

I know I made my point, when you just completely ignored it and jumped to something else. The "Both" option was always there. Now that the blame seems all on Manny, you want to talk about "both". Nope in 2012 its all on Arum and Manny. In all honesty it seems like they're taking turns fvckin up this fight ... Episode one = Floyd & OST Episode two = Arum & GBP Episode three = Arum & Pac

Agreed 110%!! I've been saying this for a long time now. Floyd should never have pulled the whole, "oo0o0o0o0o I suddenly wanna make the sport safe with OST!!!!!" bull****. Then Manny's all, "ummmm it's up to Arum, even though I really call the shots, it's up to Arum." ****ing WACK!!! Like I've said since day 1. The FANS WANT IT! That should be MORE THAN ENOUGH to make these guys fight. But of course, what the fans want means **** in boxing now, even though it's the fans who keep the sport going and put 90% of the money in. I'm ****ing PRAAAAAYING that Manny steps the **** up though, all this hiding behind his promoter **** is BS. BUUUUT, I'm willing to bet that there'll be another excuse to make this fight now happen. I swear, it's like these guys are working together to troll us fans...

kind of a fair-weather bitch out to say **** em both. Floyd is going out of his way and pretty much begging for the fight at this point

when Manny said alright, no cut off date, let's fight.. Mayweather priced himself out at 100 million. Look at this guy. Just post on something else. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

when Manny said alright, no cut off date, let's fight.. Mayweather priced himself out at 100 million. I know I made my point, when you just completely ignored it and jumped to something else. The "Both" option was always there. Now that the blame seems all on Manny, you want to talk about "both". Nope in 2012 its all on Arum and Manny.

+1...........

Manny was just as fault the first time around everything he wanted was agreed on glove, weight, 10 Million over weight penalty, ring size, he walked over a simple test. In which Mayweather compromised up to a 14 day cut off. Half of the original offer of what Manny wanting a 30 day cut off. When fans discovered he had blood drawn out 21 Days before the Hatton fight, only then did he drop it to a 21 day cutoff. And walked. The blaming "both" option was always there for people being objective. when Manny said alright, no cut off date, let's fight.. Mayweather priced himself out at 100 million.

who's fault was it last time? sure as hell wasn't Mannys... like I said, eff them both! Manny was just as fault the first time around everything he wanted was agreed on glove, weight, 10 Million over weight penalty, ring size, he walked over a simple test. In which Mayweather compromised up to a 14 day cut off. Half of the original offer of what Manny wanting a 30 day cut off. When fans discovered he had blood drawn out 21 Days before the Hatton fight, only then did he drop it to a 21 day cutoff. And walked. The blaming "both" option was always there for people being objective.

lol True. Hard times for them, I understand they cant muster up the might to just go at Manny this time around, like they had no problem doing to Mayweather. Settling for "both" is progress I guess with some of these specific people. So I applaud them. who's fault was it last time? sure as hell wasn't Mannys... like I said, eff them both!

Here comes the "both", now that Mayweather can no longer be blamed at this moment. The acceptance process takes time. Don't worry, they'll come through eventually. he can't be blamed THIS time. but he can be blamed for two of the times in the past.. to me, it's just as relevant for those are still reasons that we haven't seen the fight.

The acceptance process takes time. Don't worry, they'll come through eventually. lol True. Hard times for them, I understand they cant muster up the might to just go at Manny this time around, like they had no problem doing to Mayweather. Settling for "both" is progress I guess with some of these specific people. So I applaud them.

can't really say fuck floyd right now though. Maybe in the past, but not now. He's doing everything right whether you doubt any of his statements...he's the one that's really been pushing for pac. It's unfortunate the quality of opponents available for him are crappy. Not his fault though. 147 went to sh!t. So that's why guys like Canelo & Cotto are the front runners. you do have a point.. and i totally agree, the ball was in Pacquiao's court this time so Mayweather can't be blamed for this ****. I'm more mad at Pacquiao and his camp then anyone. I don't see why he can't speak or think for himself? I feel like he's being persuaded just like he did when he signed contracts to both GBP and Top Rank. Mayweather said he wouldn't fight Cotto or Canelo though.. and I would want to see a Cotto fight but not a Canelo one since he's not ready.