Floyd Mayweather....hes talented but overhyped! Just imagine, only fought once a year! last outing suckerpunchin to victory an unknown, non-p4p caliber ,quitter opponent then he was elevated by mongrels as their no. 1 on the presumption that he beat JMM badly and Pac had a hard time on him....SMH!
:bottle::bottle: These threads are fuking retarded. Naming guys that are recognized worldwide to be P4P by Boxing experts SMH> Most of guys are need to get a fuking clue.
ummm Bernard Hopkins is NOT overrated. Name 5 fighters that fought better competition than Bernard Hopkins? Name fighters that had better longevity than Bernard Hopkins?
Bernard Hopkins now is probably alot better than these upcoming fighters...
It's more of who's overrated right now, and I agree with you mostly. The Pascal win, which was trashed in the other post, that was a good win. Not all-time great or a crazy good win, but not an alright or average win either. Pascal was pretty highly regarded going into his fights with Bernard and Hopkins established himself as the top LHW in the world by beating him. Pascal is a good fighter. Yes, Pascal lost to Froch, but is there shame in losing to Carl Froch now, just because he was beat by Ward???? Froch is a good fighter as well, and just because Pascal lost to him doesn't mean he wasn't any good. Pascal came back a few fights later, and beat Dawson when he was unbeaten, and Pascal had established himself as the LHW to beat.
So, with Hopkins beating Pascal, that was a good win. I do think Bernard looked a little slower and his reflexes seemed off those 2 rounds with Dawson, so it'll be interesting to see what Bernard does in 2012. He should retire, but I doubt he wants to go out with the Dawson thing as a lasting impression. In my opinion, Hopkins should either fight Dawson, or go fight Cleverly and Cloud, 2 solid LHW that are top fighters at that weight.
I am laughing at some of the people who said Andre Ward, truly funny.
You can't really say either of the Klitschko's, because there aren't too many great HW around, so we'll never know just how good either were.
I'd say Dmitry Pirog, Lucian Bute, and Miguel Cotto are my top 3.
Pirog, besides the win over a solid fighter Jacobs (was really more up-and-coming than anything), who has he beat??? Bute, he has a couple alright wins, but not the wins that Ward or Froch have. People say Ward-Bute is a super fight, not so much. If Lucian beats Froch, than we can talk about how good he really is. And I only say Cotto because after the win last month, people just naturally seem to believe he's a legit threat to Pacquiao or Mayweather, when he really just beat up on a way past it Margarito, and still got caught a few times by Antonio. Don't get me wrong, Cotto is one of the top 154 lb fighters in the world, but I'd give Lara, Kirkland, Alvarez a real shot to beat him pretty good. Cotto is past his prime-still good. No better or worse since his loss to Manny in 2009, but nowhere near where he was in 2007 or 2008, since the KO loss to Margarito.
Pirog, Bute, and Cotto.
Chavez Jr., Canelo Alvarez, Amir Khan, BERNARD HOPKINS (while his accomplishments was great for his age...Jean Pascal? nobody will remember Jean Pascal 10 years from now...also still think he b!tched out against Dawson and was going to lose that fight)
ummm Bernard Hopkins is NOT overrated. Name 5 fighters that fought better competition than Bernard Hopkins? Name fighters that had better longevity than Bernard Hopkins?
Bernard Hopkins now is probably alot better than these upcoming fighters...
I also think Bernard Hopkins is an extremely overrated LHW, at MW though he definitely proved himself as an ATG. He's a great fighter and all and accomplished great things, but his resume at LHW isn't very strong. He did beat Tarver, also gave Calzaghe the toughest fight of his career and beat Pascal. Pavlik is a MW that moved up 10lbs to 170, he never did anything at SMW. Tarver was never good either, and I think Pascal is extremely overrated and have always thought he was overrated.
Pascal has a win over Dawson but that night I think anybody could've beaten Dawson, he just wasn't in it mentally and for whatever reason just didn't throw any punches. When he did throw punches he hurt Pascal, as well as bothered Pascal greatly. He could've taken out Pascal in any round of the fight if he just threw punches.
Pascal's only other fight was a UD loss to Froch.
Martinez, Mayweather, Marquez
Those are the three best fighters in the sport. You're just mad that they clowned on your God. All three guys would beat Manny and one of them arguably did. Don't get me wrong I think Pacquiao is one of the best fighters out there but the love some of his fans have for him is outrageous.
What would make you think Vitali is overrated?
What's your definition of overrated?
vitali is my favorite heavy of this era and hes def overrated by many on this site. u dont read these crazy threads??? ppl seem to think hes invincible. hes overrated. but i wouldnt say hes the most overrated.
right now? Cotto
he beat Mayorga and a 1 eye'd Margarito
and all of a sudden hes a top P4P ready for Pacquiao and Mayweather
Dont forget about the one legged Jew!