[VIDEO] Floyd Mayweather jr beats Sugar ray LEONARD

man im a floyd fan but he just hasnt faced and overcome the kind adversity ray did and by that note its hard to tell how much heart he really has. he has the tools necessary to be competitive with ray but stil most advantages go to ray. strength ray speed at best equal but im leaning towards ray. defense i give to floyd offense i give to leonard. anythings possible and floyd definitely has a better chance thar pac but i still think he gets beat bad. id say leonard 118 to 110.

Leonard was a big WW in comparison to Floyd and he could bang. We haven't really seen that from Floyd at 147 due to his hands and really not having overall good power at 147. Similar to Sweet Pea, he relies on defense, a little bit of dirty tactics, good timing and not wasting punches. Against the crop of guys he's fought since Oscar I'd say it gets the job done. But against Leonard, you got a guy with the total package (speed, power, foot work, ring smarts, great combination punching) in his prime. I think Floyd's true prime years were spent at 135-140. I see Ray really overwhelming Floyd.

Fair enough. I appreciate the video is more about flaws Floyd could exploit. But the title of this thread suggests a balanced fight breakdown. Maybe the video or thread could have been titled 'How Floyd COULD beat Ray'. Floyd may of been toying with Oscar (which im not sure i agree with), but Ray was also toying with Floyd Snr imo, and got knocked down against Howard whilst doing his Ali impression after 2 years out of the ring. Howard was also an aggressive Jnr Middleweight. In a nutshell, i dont see any of Rays opponents in that video fight anything like Floyd does. They were all being very aggressive, throwing multiple big combination punches and bulling Ray around. Very different to how Floyd fights. ...and we have one of the few people who know what they're talking about actually making sense! "But Floyd has the best right hand ever and those bums aren't as good!". Yeah, but Floyd doesn't fight like that. "Floyd has the best right hand ever!". Yeah but he counters with it and all those guys you showed were leading and pushing Leonard back. Leonard would be walking Mayweather down and pushing him back. He ain't going to be landing any hard, powerful right hands like the videos. "Floyd has the best right hand ever". Ok.

I just love the fact that someone says "Floyd could beat Leonard based on the right hand because Leonard had problems with it and Floyd is great with the right and I'll show you examples" then proceeds to show three fighters, all ATGs, all of whom lost their fights with Leonard! I think the best part about these types of vids is when these guys use exa plea of single shots and say "Floyd could land this and win" then show these bizarre examples to illustrate. Most of them against guys way bigger and taller than Mayweather, but then forget to talk about what comes back from Leonard. It's all well and good saying "Leonard got hit sometimes in his boxing career with the right hand, therefore Floyd would win" but their brilliant answer to what happens to Floyd when Leonard throws harder, faster combinations and has better skill by a mile than anyone he has ever faced, the usual answer is "He's the best defensive fighter ever. Leonard couldn't hit him or hurt him" *sigh* Whatever kids.

In this second video i tried to avoid using HOF fights and tried to get fights of ray in his prime or close to his prime,(could have easily showed the norris or camacho fight)(same points weaker opposition). Also throwing flurries is not inside fighting imo. After watching this video there is NO WAY Ray would've beat Duran Hagler Hearns and Benitez with that low left..... Not even to mention the greatest of all time Floyd..... Blasphemy

Well youre right about it not being brought up but it aintr because Serg couldnt possibly compete or even win against all 3. Your suggesting you would favor Sergio against any one of those 3 guys???

I'll take Leonard in this match-up. Floyd's body of work leaves a lot to be desired...

In this second video i tried to avoid using HOF fights and tried to get fights of ray in his prime or close to his prime,(could have easily showed the norris or camacho fight)(same points weaker opposition). Also throwing flurries is not inside fighting imo. i'll add this to the op

No matter your personal feelings about the fight Ray fought and "beat" at the worst the 3rd best middleweight of all time.... Floyd acts as if Sergio doesn't exist..... I've never seen Sergio even mentioned as possibly beating Hagler Monzon or Hopkins..... Just a coincidence huh???

The video is title floyd beats leonard, not floyd vs leonard. i was just pointing out things floyd can exploit, i wasn't giving a full break down of the fight. good points,though. but i think in the oscar fight floyd sat down on his punches more because he wanted to hurt oscar. When oscar jabed he'd take one or two steps back and get in position to throw punches.Only time he used his feet was when he was about to be pinned on the ropes he'd quickly circle out. Floyd likes to be close. yeah oscar landed maybe three or 4 jabs the whole fight, but he never seemed to be phased by them; he continued to do what he was doing. Also he had his hand down toying with oscar, that didn't help. I don't think he'll have his hand low or use the shell against ray. he always works off the jab and has his guard up high when facing guys who are fast handed. true ray is bigger, but i've seen guys not as strong as foyd pin him on the ropes, like finch or kevin howard, who is close to floyd in height, not as fast or skilled. he dropped ray and caught him with several hooks and right hands. You do know Ray was dealing with a severe eye injury hence the layoff right??? Nice try though.....

The best fights on Mayweather's resume would be merely "tuneups" for SRL. He wanted the greatest challenges that boxing could offer. Mayweather wants to stay undefeated, so he avoids the greatest threats. It's been said many times on here and is plain and true.

The video is title floyd beats leonard, not floyd vs leonard. i was just pointing out things floyd can exploit, i wasn't giving a full break down of the fight. good points,though. but i think in the oscar fight floyd sat down on his punches more because he wanted to hurt oscar. When oscar jabed he'd take one or two steps back and get in position to throw punches.Only time he used his feet was when he was about to be pinned on the ropes he'd quickly circle out. Floyd likes to be close. yeah oscar landed maybe three or 4 jabs the whole fight, but he never seemed to be phased by them; he continued to do what he was doing. Also he had his hand down toying with oscar, that didn't help. I don't think he'll have his hand low or use the shell against ray. he always works off the jab and has his guard up high when facing guys who are fast handed. true ray is bigger, but i've seen guys not as strong as foyd pin him on the ropes, like finch or kevin howard, who is close to floyd in height, not as fast or skilled. he dropped ray and caught him with several hooks and right hands. Fair enough. I appreciate the video is more about flaws Floyd could exploit. But the title of this thread suggests a balanced fight breakdown. Maybe the video or thread could have been titled 'How Floyd COULD beat Ray'. Floyd may of been toying with Oscar (which im not sure i agree with), but Ray was also toying with Floyd Snr imo, and got knocked down against Howard whilst doing his Ali impression after 2 years out of the ring. Howard was also an aggressive Jnr Middleweight. In this second video i tried to avoid using HOF fights and tried to get fights of ray in his prime or close to his prime,(could have easily showed the norris or camacho fight)(same points weaker opposition). Also throwing flurries is not inside fighting imo. In a nutshell, i dont see any of Rays opponents in that video fight anything like Floyd does. They were all being very aggressive, throwing multiple big combination punches and bulling Ray around. Very different to how Floyd fights.

In this second video i tried to avoid using HOF fights and tried to get fights of ray in his prime or close to his prime,(could have easily showed the norris or camacho fight)(same points weaker opposition). Also throwing flurries is not inside fighting imo.

Leonard had flaws, and Floyd causes anyone problems. But the video seems biased to me. 1. Yea, Ray would sometimes carry his left low. Would Floyd be aggressive as Hearns and Duran to land it often enough? Plus Ray was able to knock down Benitez with a single jab. Benitez was famous for his fast reflexes. Floyd countering slower, smaller WW's doesnt convince me he could do that repeatedly against Leonard. 2. Ray getting hit by jabs. Hearns had a massive reach and great speed. Still got TKO'd. Floyd Snr was throwing multiple jabs, Floyd throws singles. 3. Psychology. Leonard said he wanted to beat Duran at his own game. Which is in-fighting. Against Floyd it would be boxing and countering, something which Leonard was great at. Floyd takes a little time to get going. Leonard had the power to stop Benitez, Hearns, make Duran quit and compete with Hagler at MW. If Floyd is getting caught clean by Zudah and SSM then Ray could seriously hurt him. Even if he doesnt finish Floyd early, Floyd would have to be more defensive. Against SMM Floyd came back well, but a prime Leonard is a different matter. Ray may load up with big shots, but those would still do damage. Floyd becomes very passive on the ropes, and Rays power could tell. Even without a KO, Ray is winning rounds if he has Floyd covering up. Ray didnt throw a punch for 1 min against Hearns early on. Floyd fights nothing like Hearns. He isnt a monster puncher with a massive reach. Ray on the inside. Try finding moments when Ray was throwing fast combos against Duran and getting the better of him. Or his many moments against Hagler. Terrible biased argument right there. Why not show Floyd getting tagged on the ropes like he did against Catillo, Oscar, Ortiz and even JMM? Plus id say we have seen Ray be outboxed yet we know he can brawl, scrap and dig deep when he has to to get the win against ATG opposition. He can box beautifully, but can also exchange and pile on the pressure in the late rounds. I havent sen Floyd have to do that yet. If Floyds skills give him a big lead against Ray, i see Ray turining into a brawl which Floyd might not handle so well because of Leonards speed, power, size and strength. Also, where is Floyd getting caught by Oscars jab? Wouldnt Leonards jab give him fits? Oscar couldnt maintain the snap, whereas Leonard could go all night. The video is title floyd beats leonard, not floyd vs leonard. i was just pointing out things floyd can exploit, i wasn't giving a full break down of the fight. good points,though. but i think in the oscar fight floyd sat down on his punches more because he wanted to hurt oscar. When oscar jabed he'd take one or two steps back and get in position to throw punches.Only time he used his feet was when he was about to be pinned on the ropes he'd quickly circle out. Floyd likes to be close. yeah oscar landed maybe three or 4 jabs the whole fight, but he never seemed to be phased by them; he continued to do what he was doing. Also he had his hand down toying with oscar, that didn't help. I don't think he'll have his hand low or use the shell against ray. he always works off the jab and has his guard up high when facing guys who are fast handed. true ray is bigger, but i've seen guys not as strong as foyd pin him on the ropes, like finch or kevin howard, who is close to floyd in height, not as fast or skilled. he dropped ray and caught him with several hooks and right hands.

stupid flomo thread as usual:banghead: floyd has never fought at the level leonard did and never took the kind of opponents ray fought so you can never justify any comparison between them no matter how much youtube videos you watch and dissect. that's like comparing the performance of a department head with the vice president of a company. it will always end up stupid no matter what because there's no comparison in the first place.

Heres the question could Mayweather beat Benetiz or even Pryor i dont know,Sugar Ray would beat him with out a doubt in my mind though,so would Hearns and Duran. I would give him the best chance against Pryor..... Not a slight at the hawk in any way but when u compare their credentials too much is stacked against Floyd.... Benitez is severely underrated IMO maybe due to the lack of power but he was slick and fast then a mofo

He definitely didn't almost beat him but you have to admit, he gave him a much better fight than most thought. I personally thought Oscar would be embarrassed like he did with Manny. I guess. I hated that fight. I watched it and felt like they weren't even trying.

Dude..stop letting your personal bias get in the way of a great video. Leonard is one of my favorites of all time, but simply saying that Mayweather would give Leonard problems, or even beat him, is not "trolling" or "bs". It would be a great fight. Mayweather Sr. gave Leonard some issues in their fight with a similar style. When you have Leonard himself saying things like "Yeah, because he's like his dad, and his father gave me trouble too, but because his father couldn't punch, I didn't have as much to worry about. Now Floyd can punch harder than his father." when asked if mayweather would be a tough fight, then you should probably reevaluate your bias. Clearly you have no idea as to what you're talking about. He gave Ray no "issues" whatsoever. Ray took a round to figure him out and when he started to fight his fight and know that Sr was not a threat in any way, it became annihilation.

LOL. No he didn't. He definitely didn't almost beat him but you have to admit, he gave him a much better fight than most thought. I personally thought Oscar would be embarrassed like he did with Manny.

Old Oscar almost beat Floyd. LOL. No he didn't.