Now bore i go into this i want to do a few disclaimers first.
1) froch got beaten by 4 rounds imo, which is what i predicted, even though im a massive froch fan. He just wasnt use to inside game(even though he was more compatitive than khan was on the inside). He got easily beaten.
2) When i say blue print i mean a tactic that would make ward struggle, not necessarily lose the fight.
Anyway. Froch, bar round 5 whihc he won imo, got his tactics completely wrong. I still think he would have lost due to losing the inside war. But rounds 5, and 10-12 i felt he really had ward imo.
Its a very course way to beat wards as hes going to out box anyone in terms of skill. But the guy literally has poor power. For a guy that landed 100 more shots than froch, it was froch that finshed far stronger, wards face was busted up, and looked shattered.
To beat ward i think you have to accepot you are going to be tagged. WAhich is fine as he doesnt have knocked out power. EAVEN AT LOWER LEVELS HES struggled for power.
Froch should have started how he started with pascal. Also done more body shots as its an easier target, and saps energy in later rounds.
Froch did to many single jabs, which wasted valueble time and energy with littel results.
Froch is a better fighter, ward is a b etter boxer.Whether it was pride or not, froch barring the 5th round tried to outbox ward, which lead to one way traffic.
If this fight was done again and froch gets heavy sdparring with inside fighters(this could be applicable to kessler, bute etc) i honestly think the score cards would have been alot closer and genuwinely 115 113, or the other way round.
thoughts?
I'm getting tired of people saying stupid stuff like a guy can't punch and just walk through his punches....if he can't punch you'd think at least 1 of the 25 people he's fought and beaten would have done so by now....Truth is, those punches hurt. He may not have 1 punch knockout power but he's not a powderpuff puncher like most you seem to think. Guys that simply cannot punch do not win tournaments against the best in a weigh class...
The scorecards were WAY too close. I only gave Froch the 5th and the 9th, and the 5th was close. Ward clearly won 8 rounds, and Froch clearly won 1 round. 3 were close, but Ward still out landed Froch those rounds.
The only time it seemd Froch was able to land on Ward was when Andre came on the inside and they would exchange a bit. The whole fight it was Ward walking him down and hitting him with a jab, hook, or an occasional straight right, and at times Froch would come forward and get countered with a jab or hook from Ward, all night long. Froch was considered to be Ward's toughest test to date, and he beat him 118-110, no way it was 115-113, I don't know what the judges were watching.
Even when some may get Andre in trouble, he will clinch, and whether or not anyone likes it, clinching at the right time is an effective way to stop your opponent from getting anything started.
There was one point in the fight where Froch was on the ropes and Ward was moving around in front of him and Froch just continued to lay there for like 3-4 seconds, it was weird.
For a guy that supposedly can't punch, he stunned Froch A LOT in that fight, and out classed him badly. Froch didn't have an off night, he was beaten by the superior fighter, and his British mouth got shut up.
Yeah that's what I was thinking, but both Kessler and Froch have fine uppercuts and heither managed to throw it let alone land it. It is puzzling. Maybe Bute can do it. He has a sneaky and punishing one.
Maybe a sustained bodyattack could help as well. Froch's best punch IMO was a right to Wards side.
Yeah, I think they didn't throw it because Ward was closing the distance and crowding them very quickly so they didn't have time to throw it. I'd like to see how Bute deals with it.
Uppercuts on the inside for sure. Ward leads with his head on the inside. Make a little space and throw an uppercut, should work.
Yeah that's what I was thinking, but both Kessler and Froch have fine uppercuts and heither managed to throw it let alone land it. It is puzzling. Maybe Bute can do it. He has a sneaky and punishing one.
Maybe a sustained bodyattack could help as well. Froch's best punch IMO was a right to Wards side.
The Froch fight gave no clue whatsoever towards beating Ward. In fact it only showed that Froch was slower than usual, underprepared for insidefighting with little sense of counterpunching.
A blueprint on how to beat Ward is pure guesswork as it is today, but IMO should involve crisp counters, well-timed uppercuts and quickness but who knows? Ward is on his way to greatness and it'll take something exceptional to beat him.
Uppercuts on the inside for sure. Ward leads with his head on the inside. Make a little space and throw an uppercut, should work.
The Froch fight gave no clue whatsoever towards beating Ward. In fact it only showed that Froch was slower than usual, underprepared for insidefighting with little sense of counterpunching.
A blueprint on how to beat Ward is pure guesswork as it is today, but IMO should involve crisp counters, well-timed uppercuts and quickness but who knows? Ward is on his way to greatness and it'll take something exceptional to beat him.
I think Lacy might have shown the blueprint on how to beat Calzaghe, and Tarver totally showed the blueprint on how to beat Hopkins, and Gatti showed the blueprint on how to beat Mayweather, while Juarez had the perfect blueprint on how to beat Marquez, just as Tito showed the blueprint on how to beat Wright and yes, Froch definitely showed the blueprint on how to beat Ward.....:stupid:
Mate, there have been bum ass club fighters that have shown better blueprints on how to beat Ward than Froch did. Froch got what is traditionally called a 'monstrous ****ing ass whipping schooling'. There is no blueprint anywhere you tool.
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Come back to earth brother. This guy has shown the best blueprint to beat Ward. Unlike Froch he actually hit Ward with something that was half decent, and did it while Ward was trying to sneak inside, instead of just getting pwned for 12 rounds like Froch. The only 'blueprint' that was made on that night was the blueprint on how to look like a tool in getting completely owned after talking too much ****e.
Are you on crack? Ward won at LEAST 10 rounds. Froch didn't expose anything but himself and how **** he is. i have never seen a fighter look so out of his depth before. Ward schooled him.
You didnt see PAC - Hatton then?
Froch went out on his shield, not his back.
Froch only had success in the last few rounds when Ward switched to southpaw other than that Froch did nothing. Even the few times Froch pressed the fight they broke even on most of the exchanges and then it went right back to Ward boxing Froch's ears off. Like I said before Ward had more ways he could win the fight and that wasn't even proven cause gameplan 1 worked and he didn't even have to make any adjustmenst for real. Ward is just a better fighter and that is all there is to it.
This fight wasn't even close, TS is an obvious troll and not even good at it.
Once Froch realized he couldn't deal with Ward inside, he was devastated. You could see the confidence just drain from Froch and his corner couldn't tell him anything that could possibly help him.
Honestly, that was one of the easiest wins I have ever seen for Ward. He was coasting in there.
Yeah the blue print is.... Drum roll please...... Hitting him with ur face over and over again, cause that is all Froch did..."won 4 round lmao" needed that laugh thank u
Are you on crack? Ward won at LEAST 10 rounds. Froch didn't expose anything but himself and how **** he is. i have never seen a fighter look so out of his depth before. Ward schooled him.
Froch tried to box with Ward and it went on for like 9 rounds until he realized this is not working out. As soon as he starting coming forward, roughing him up and acting like a pressure fighter he gained success. That's what you need to do, you're gonna have to take some shots but keep on pressuring him until he folds. It's a sign that Ward clinced the entire last 3 rounds.