My unbiased take on the Cotto-Margarito aftermath

He won three different rounds on three different cards at the end of 9 with 3 rounds left http://i43.tinypic.com/28im7ah.jpg Ya, you didnt understand what i was saying. Ill have to rewatch the seventh round, but he did not win the fourth, and in no way won the ninth. I dont care what some scrub put on their scorecard, i saw the fight myself. All night cotto landed the harder, cleaner punches, at a higher percentage with less punches thrown. Everything Marg did big was answered, and then some.

NO WAY. Cotto clinched. Pushed margs around. Took his punches way better. Traded back at times effectively. Strategy and no plaster got the win. Margs' pressure is not effective since Cotto, stop denying the plaster damn its like no matter what people look to something to deny that when it is so obvious. No one starts to try and cheat at the top. I dont know if Margarito had actual plaster, and neither do you. What I do know is that if you actually watch the two fights, you can clearly see 1. That Margarito actually was landing a lot more early on in the first fight 2. That Cotto was much sharper and faster, and was landing clean and heavier blows in the first fight and 3. Margarito had more power, just judging by his body mechanics. Look how he actually gets full leverage and more of his whole body behind his shots in the first fight, then look at the rematch where theyre mostly just arm shots. People keep acting like Cotto had this amazing boxing ability in the rematch, when in reality he was boxing better in the first fight. Landing cleaner shots, using the ring, dodging shots...its all there. The difference is Margarito was actually coming forward much more aggressively and assertively, and was landing shots from the 2nd round on. look how much better they both look:

no offense Cotto fans, but his strategy had nothing to do with his victory. In fact, he preformed worse in the second fight than he did in the first. Its just that Margarito had fallen a long way. I said this over and over again leading up to this fight, that Cotto would win, maybe by stoppage, because Margarito is way past prime. Margarito literally hasn't had a meaningful win in 3 years(since the first Cotto fight). Margarito may have won the first fight, but imo Cotto ruined him that night. Just so much punishment Marg absorbed, and Marg was starting to slide before the 1st fight anyway. NO WAY. Cotto clinched. Pushed margs around. Took his punches way better. Traded back at times effectively. Strategy and no plaster got the win. Margs' pressure is not effective since Cotto, stop denying the plaster damn its like no matter what people look to something to deny that when it is so obvious. No one starts to try and cheat at the top.

I'm glad that Cotto got the win but if Margarito eye didn't get injured, Cotto would have been domed. I was crossing my fingers hoping for the ref or doctors to stop it. If/ then speculative sentences don't really do much for me. I understand where you are coming from, but the simple facts are that 1) Cotto boxed beautifully 2) He didn't get tired 3) He avoided the toe-to-toe and 4) He got off the ropes when he found himself there. Cotto was never going to beat Margarito toe-to-toe, so he put in the exact game plan he needed to win. Let's give him some credit.

I generally agree but think you're being a little too harsh on Margo and his fans. In fairness, Margarito has always been a late starter and has historically had his best rounds late in the fight so regardless of how bad he looked it's not unreasonable to think that he might have had some moments in the final 3 rounds against a fighter he stopped previously before, has had stamina issues let's face it and kept on putting the pressure. Yes he was losing the fight, losing the fight big but again look at the 1st Cotto fight and the Williams fight, both fights in which Margarito came on strong at the end after getting fairly dominated and outboxed the 1st 5-6 rounds. While he doesn't always come from behind to win, he is the type of fighter whose stamina, determination and body attacks that become most effective and evident late in fights. As far as not saying "the better man won blah blah blah" I think we all knew the bad blood and immense pride of these two fighters and I think it's bit idealistic to think they would let bygones be bygones just like that especially when a fight ended against the will of that fighter who rightly or wrongly believed he still could've won. I know Margarito is a late starter but in this fight he had not done the type of work that turns a fight around. Basically, he pressured Cotto but was not landing debilitating shots as in the first fight. Margarito is always tough, I said that and will say it again. I don't mind fair fans but can't stand delusional ones, who are in total denial and often troll a thread just for the hell of it. Once someone goes :"Margarito would have busted his ass within a round just because he has more guts than Cotto, blah, blah" I stop reading because it's a waste of energy and time. In the Williams fight he ran out of rounds, which is what I think would have happened had the fight continued. I could see Margarito winning a couple of those last three rounds but, even then, the best he could have done was get a 116-112 loss on all cards since the official ones were 89-82 after nine. I also understand the thing about not giving credit, but the thing is that I don't dislike Margarito as a fighter. As a fan, if he accepted that Cotto implemented a better gameplan that night that would have said a lot about his character. Even Cotto admitted during the Face Off that Margarito was a strong puncher. I respect Margarito as a fighter, even after the wraps scandal, but it's illogical to say Cotto, a guy who gave you two tough fights, bruised you, and hurt you, hits like a girl. It just seems like something a sore loser would say. That's just the way I see it as a fan. He still gave a good effort and I have enough common sense to recognize that. I wish others were, more or less, like that.

You say that as if margarito won any rounds in the first place. At best he looked better in some rounds, but he didnt win any of them. He won three different rounds on three different cards at the end of 9 with 3 rounds left http://i43.tinypic.com/28im7ah.jpg

Here is where you shut your mouth.... all three official judges, gave Antonio Margarito 3 separate rounds in that fight this was in NY Cottos back yard.. 3 separate rounds between the judges think about that for a second You say that as if margarito won any rounds in the first place. At best he looked better in some rounds, but he didnt win any of them.

no offense Cotto fans, but his strategy had nothing to do with his victory. In fact, he preformed worse in the second fight than he did in the first. Its just that Margarito had fallen a long way. I said this over and over again leading up to this fight, that Cotto would win, maybe by stoppage, because Margarito is way past prime. Margarito literally hasnt had a meaningful win in 3 years(since the first Cotto fight). Margarito may have won the first fight, but imo Cotto ruined him that night. Just so much punishment Marg absorbed, and Marg was starting to slide before the 1st fight anyway.

Fair enough 10mil sent but if Margarito would've won rounds 10-12 on ALL of their cards Cotto would still win a UD 8 rounds to 4..lol..so what's the argument?..that Cotto was en route to getting stopped?!.. actually if Margarito swept the last three and you gave him rounds 4, 7 and 9 you have a draw... either way if you scored it round 4 and 9 for Margarito as I did cus I cant change my score today I live with the score I had on fight night cus that is the fight I saw then. but what that means is you have high drama in the last three rounds..... I aint one to say I scored three rounds for Tony though there was a close round in round 7 but I will say I did give him the 4th and the 9th and if you pay attention between rounds 4 through 7 even though Cotto won 5,6,&7 Margarito did enough to the body to win in another way if you know what I mean. and I believe that other way showed up in the 9th, I again wont take anything from Miguel, However I am going to be honest to me that isnt revenge, you dont win a fight call it revenge and have your opponent trash talking you on the way out, you beat him down and humble him so he has no choice but to respect you and that didnt happen neither.... Yes he out boxed Tony in most of the rounds but he did not beat his ass or put a whipping on him he out boxed him and there is a difference

wasnt saying he was robbed, they stopped it too soon if I had given tony three rounds on my card and there was three left guess what? you already know. and again at the time he was turning it on the Dr saved Miguel from another ass beating only this time in front of his home town fans and saving his kid from the terror of Margarito once again Here are the official cards... one gave tony round 4 another gave him round 7 another gave him round 9 its not out of the question to have that score http://i43.tinypic.com/28im7ah.jpg Fair enough 10mil sent but if Margarito would've won rounds 10-12 on ALL of their cards Cotto would still win a UD 8 rounds to 4..lol..so what's the argument?..that Cotto was en route to getting stopped?!..

I won't lie it did. I wanted Cotto to get a TKO and I think he was saving energy for the 11th n 12th like he did Mayorga, and unleash it all, by then Margarito would've been beat to hell and in survival mode. I find it funny that people say Cotto was gassing, because they saw him clinch and push, and these are the same people who said if Cotto would've clinched the first time he would've won, now it's called gassing..smh I think you need to take a look at the 8th when they called time, look at Cottos breathing when the tape was being put on his glove... he went flat in round 9 Tony knew it look at his gesture at the end of the round when he turned and looked at Robert Garcia... he knew Cotto shot his load and it was his time to get him out of there

I liked the fight, good performance from Cotto, however, having it stopped by swelling on Marg's previously injured eye took something from the win IMO. I won't lie it did. I wanted Cotto to get a TKO and I think he was saving energy for the 11th n 12th like he did Mayorga, and unleash it all, by then Margarito would've been beat to hell and in survival mode. I find it funny that people say Cotto was gassing, because they saw him clinch and push, and these are the same people who said if Cotto would've clinched the first time he would've won, now it's called gassing..smh

He won 1 round on each of their cards out of 9 rounds..YEAA TONY GOT ROBBED!..I bet none of them gave him the 9th..I'll put 10mil points up on that. :rofl1: wasnt saying he was robbed, they stopped it too soon if I had given tony three rounds on my card and there was three left guess what? you already know. and again at the time he was turning it on the Dr saved Miguel from another ass beating only this time in front of his home town fans and saving his kid from the terror of Margarito once again Here are the official cards... one gave tony round 4 another gave him round 7 another gave him round 9 its not out of the question to have that score http://i43.tinypic.com/28im7ah.jpg

I liked the fight, good performance from Cotto, however, having it stopped by swelling on Marg's previously injured eye took something from the win IMO.

Here is where you shut your mouth.... all three official judges, gave Antonio Margarito 3 separate rounds in that fight this was in NY Cottos back yard.. 3 separate rounds between the judges think about that for a second He won 1 round on each of their cards out of 9 rounds..YEAA TONY GOT ROBBED!..I bet none of them gave him the 9th..I'll put 10mil points up on that. :rofl1:

After the fight was over it was evident that Cotto wanted more...Could it have gone one more round? I think so. Would it have changed the outcome? No. The truth is that Cotto dominated every aspect of Margarito's game on Saturday night. He used lateral movement to neutralize Margarito's forward pressure, he clinched when he needed to and pushed Margarito away when it called for a break. Several times, he turned Margarito and put him up against the ropes... Cotto was hitting, and not being hit, throwing combinations that had Margarito's head snapping. Though subtle differences, this fight had completely different chemistry from their first meet. Margarito did not exude the same confidence as he did in their first fight... his gait was not as confident as the first fight, his taunts and smiles were almost masking his confusion... Margarito had no "plan B". He thought that the fight would be the same as their first encounter, and it was everything but that, it was a new meeting with different challenges... a puzzle that he had not figured out by the end of the ninth round. I have watched the fight three times now and Margarito won one round, barely. It was clear to me that Margarito was not going to win the fight, regardless of a pre-existing eye injury, regardless of how long the fight went, he just didn't have what it took on Saturday night to turn the momentum his way. Cotto's approach was different, his attack was precise and well planned... I don't think Margarito had a solution for the puzzle that Cotto handed him...

http://www.fightjudge.com/scorecard/744/scorecard.png 100% of people scored the 9th for Cotto on that website too. A site of boxing fans that can score bouts how they please. :rofl1: *Edit All 3 judges had the 9th for Cotto as well, those damn fan boys! Here is where you shut your mouth.... all three official judges, gave Antonio Margarito 3 separate rounds in that fight this was in NY Cottos back yard.. 3 separate rounds between the judges think about that for a second

http://www.fightjudge.com/scorecard/744/scorecard.png 100% of people scored the 9th for Cotto on that website too. A site of boxing fans that can score bouts how they please. :rofl1: *Edit All 3 judges had the 9th for Cotto as well, those damn fan boys!

Wow..:rofl: So obviously your new, find out where they get their "Boxing experts" thats a fact they pick most of them up off the ****ing forums

You think I give a **** what or how those sites score the fights? seriously ask the owner of this site if his writers get paid? in fact ask the owner of this site where he picked up these writers Thats ****ing real all the websites are like that and usually tend to be biased fan boys... Be ****ing real Wow..:rofl: