If a fighter is indeed clean as they claim then why would they soil their reputation by hiring a confessed and known performance enhancing dealer?
Its JMMs own fault that people are wondering how a 38 year old man, went 12 high intensity rounds without tiring, even though boxing is considered the most physically demanding sport of all.
Remember, most 20 somethings cannot maintain a high intensity for even 8 rounds without being completely drained of energy.
And once an individual reaches 30 the body stops producing human growth hormone, and by 35 its virtually stopped producing this hormone. IMO, JMMs performance against PAC was very suspicious. Now I know, the mexis are going to defend their god no matter what, but JMM brought these suspicions on himself when he decided to hire a KNOWN CHEATER.
Its funny how Flomos accuse Pac of taking PEDS, but when there is an actual reason to think someone is on PEDS, like how JMM is probably on PEDS, they don't give a $hit. Proves how full of it they are.
Its easy to say that when you KNOW the tests will not catch human growth hormone or the latest designer steroids.
The question is always, what in the name of FUK have you got to gain by hiring an uneducated convicted steroid dealer as your strength coach?
There are tons of extremely educated strength coaches, that JMM could use who would have MORE expertise, and no background of being a PEDS specialist.
Yet, JMM instead hires a disgraced cheat to for his strength coach? Unless this guys is supplying JMM with PEDS, it makes no sense. JMM would only risk tarnishing his rep if there was a good reason, and that reason is obviously PEDS.
Does it make sense to do the time, if you're not planning on committing the crime?
yeah but testing uses different indicators to monitor normal levels i guess if theres any change in those levels they assume you are on something. they dont need to know what it is, they just know you were on something
And you don't think it's weird that when Marquez said ok let's take the tests, Team Pac said No?
i guess that would eliminate any doubt. but i think i remember there was an old interview floating around about how hernandez admitted to creating some drugs that aren't detectable even by osdt. so i dunno why marquez chose angel hernandez of all people when he could probably have tried to find a conditioning coach who had a cleaner past
yeah it is a bit weird. what i also find suspicious is when angel hernandez gave hbo a false last name ..i think he gave them heredia or something. but i dunno i can't say for certain that marquez was taking any illegal substance against pac. but it definitely is a bit weird.
but------------------------> JMM said i will take the test as long as Pac does controversy ends Pac team backs out i wounder why AS SOON AS JMM SAID LETS BOTH TAKE THE TEST THE BULL$HIT STOP ODD INDEED
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yo playas,
ive been sayin this all along yo'
marquez is in the form of his life- against mayweather he looked shot as f@ck yo
obviously id like to see a marquez mayweather rematch
Now that is interesting.
If a fighter is indeed clean as they claim then why would they soil their reputation by hiring a confessed and known performance enhancing dealer?
Like others have said in this thread, JMM said he had nothing to hide and would've submitted to any tests they would've demanded of him.
Its JMMs own fault that people are wondering how a 38 year old man, went 12 high intensity rounds without tiring, even though boxing is considered the most physically demanding sport of all.
See above. Plus, people age differently. Hopkins is 8 years older and can still go 12 easily.
Remember, most 20 somethings cannot maintain a high intensity for even 8 rounds without being completely drained of energy.
Marquez, like Manny and most elite boxers, has been a pro athlete for most of his life. They aren't regular guys. If anything, they're exceptions, they don't follow the rule. This is a terrible 'argument' to make.
And once an individual reaches 30 the body stops producing human growth hormone, and by 35 its virtually stopped producing this hormone.
See above.
IMO, JMMs performance against PAC was very suspicious. Now I know, the mexis are going to defend their god no matter what, but JMM brought these suspicions on himself when he decided to hire a KNOWN CHEATER.
This opinion is irrelevant at this point.
Its funny how Flomos accuse Pac of taking PEDS, but when there is an actual reason to think someone is on PEDS, like how JMM is probably on PEDS, they don't give a $hit. Proves how full of it they are.
What do 'Flomos' have to do with anything here? Maybe someone is trying really hard, and failing, to defend his 'god'?
Uneducated? He graduated out of Texas with a Science degree. The guy knows what he is doing.
I didn't see any differences, Pac just fought like crap like he always does against Marquez. He looked the exact same as he did in the Katsidis and Diaz fights.
No, he definitely did not look exactly the same as in the Kats fight and Diaz fight. JMM looked stronger and faster, than he has in many years. Regardless, he shouldn't be looking exactly the same, considering he is 38 years old.
And the difference is that PAC is now p4p 1, and JMM is 38. Human biology says you HAVE to slow down when you age. You HAVE to lose energy. You HAVE to lose most of your muscle mass.
Again, if JMM is such a physical marvel that time does not affect him, WHY THE FUK DOES HE NEED A STEROID DEALER?? Thats what you keep failing to answer. If JMM is clean why would he hire a steroid dealer, it makes zero sense.
Why do the time, if you're not going to commit the crime, why he unnecessarily make people suspicious if you're clean? The answer is, he wouldn't.
Marquez said let them test him whenever they want. Any tests, any place.
What's odd is that Ariza and Team Pac said they don't care if is on anything and wouldn't want to test him...........
Its easy to say that when you KNOW the tests will not catch human growth hormone or the latest designer steroids.
The question is always, what in the name of FUK have you got to gain by hiring an uneducated convicted steroid dealer as your strength coach?
There are tons of extremely educated strength coaches, that JMM could use who would have MORE expertise, and no background of being a PEDS specialist.
Yet, JMM instead hires a disgraced cheat to for his strength coach? Unless this guys is supplying JMM with PEDS, it makes no sense. JMM would only risk tarnishing his rep if there was a good reason, and that reason is obviously PEDS.
Does it make sense to do the time, if you're not planning on committing the crime?
The difference is Marquez isn't b*tching and complaining about the commission and the other garbage like Pacquiao is. He said it plain and clear. "I'm willing to take the test" just like many other fighters have said. Including the likes of Donaire and Ward aka Conte consultants.
the only one is using PEDS is markez and chickenfethers
pacman is clean fiter!
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just cause manny would never beat floyd, doesnt mean you need to accuse him of PEDs. if floyd was on them, it makes PERFECT sense that he would push so hard for the testing, right? where do you idiots come from i mean seriously?! I hope you're just a troll that wants reactions from people, cause you cant possibly have any boxing knowledge. well whatever youre doing for the pactard world, its working out just great for ya
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