Your problem is that you want to cpompletely dismiss the idea that Pacquiao is using PEDs. It's not about believing what Mayweather or Pacquiao say. It's completely possible that both Mayweather and Pacquiao have used PEDs, but the reality is that 1 fighter is wllling to submit himself to more stringent testing while the other has flip flopped all over the issue. My brain tells me that the fighter who has seemingly tried to duck the testing may have something to hide. The question is do you have a brain of you own, or is your mouth so full of Pacquiao that you're willing to question any him and why he didn't agree to the testing from the start? The testing has supposedly held up the fight because Pacquiao refused to agree, not because Mayweather asked for the testing. There's no excuse for Pacquiao refusing to submit to more stringent testing, none. That stuff about having no evidence or proof of Pacquiao using PEDs is idiotic, it makes no sense. You don't need proof to suspect an athlete of using PEDs, that's why they have drug testing in the 1st place.
This is just for discussion purposes, brah, and I'm not here to recycle the same garbage. (Pacquiao had caved in to your idol's demand a long time ago now.) I see nothing new to these recycled discussions and you peeps keep rehashing the same crap that happened three years ago. It's easy for you to say it's a simple request when we all know that people are different. Floyd, your idol, himself acknowledged later that there are people who object to any type of invasive testing. There are many who haven't seen a doctor in years because of it. And just because the Pacman refused initially he's guilty? Man, it's been three years and how many years would it take to investigate such high profile person and prove his guilt? And you're ready to ignore this to justify your idol's demand, eh?
You keep dodging the question. Again, regardless of what your master believes, do you believe Pacquiao is using peds? A very simple question you cannot even answer. Just proves you clowns have taken dickriding to new heights.
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What we have JoeMan and others saying is this, "If Floyd is sooooooooo good, he could beat a roided up Manny". They are totally dismissing the possibility of Manny being on steroids (or Floyd for that matter, which is completely possible) and putting the onus on the guy that wants the more stringent testing to ensure that both fighters are clean.
Floyd requested OST to keep 50 cent from messing with his drinks...50 likes to put steroids in his homie's drinks for fun....so Floyd requested extra testing to make sure 50 desn't mess with his drinks anymore.....there, are yall happy NOW?!?!? :lol1:....now lets look forward to May 5th...lets get it :boxing:
Your problem is that you want to cpompletely dismiss the idea that Pacquiao is using PEDs. It's not about believing what Mayweather or Pacquiao say. It's completely possible that both Mayweather and Pacquiao have used PEDs, but the reality is that 1 fighter is wllling to submit himself to more stringent testing while the other has flip flopped all over the issue. My brain tells me that the fighter who has seemingly tried to duck the testing may have something to hide. The question is do you have a brain of you own, or is your mouth so full of Pacquiao that you're willing to question any him and why he didn't agree to the testing from the start? The testing has supposedly held up the fight because Pacquiao refused to agree, not because Mayweather asked for the testing. There's no excuse for Pacquiao refusing to submit to more stringent testing, none. That stuff about having no evidence or proof of Pacquiao using PEDs is idiotic, it makes no sense. You don't need proof to suspect an athlete of using PEDs, that's why they have drug testing in the 1st place.
the point is, pacquiao is suppossedly on steroids vs these cherrypicked weight drained fighters and is easy work for floyd, completel domination
why the OST then? why waste the money? floyd doesn't even believe he can truely beat pac, dont kid yourselves
Not really OST, more like random blood and urine testing over a 3 month period... OST is year round... that means Floyd get's tested during his vacation days.... which is when athletes usually would take steroids.
Its because floyd is a lil b*tch and is once again taking ducking and dodging to new heights.
2) If Pac was on something it would've come out by now. Like how floyd uses xylocaine and it came out. This is a ruse to take the attention off of that.
3) Pacquiao doesn't have to take sh*t. Pac can fight Marquez again and it'll do 1.5 mill easy or he can fight Canelo for $65 million guaranteed while floyd is trying to get a career payday now since he is very likely to get locked up for a long time
You mean like Holyfield and Mosely?
Yes, I believe Pacquiao, at some point, used performance enhancing drugs. If memory serves me correctly, I believe he started cycling prior to the Diaz fight.
He's spent the last two years cycling off, in my opinion. Explains his dip in performance, especially in the areas of power and stamina.
So your only basis of suspicion is because he beat Diaz, eh? What else other than subjective circumstantial things can you cite here? Any actual link to peds similar to Mosley and Holyfield?
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Brah, you don't always agree with what your idol says or believes in. That's extreme dickriding. If Pac believes Floyd is juicing and extra testing prevents the fight from happening, then I'm not supporting Pac. I don't even believe boxers would take that risk getting caught especially in high profile events.
You mean like Holyfield and Mosely?
Anyways, regardless of what Floyd believes, do you believe Pac is roiding? You have your own brain don't you?
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Yes, I believe Pacquiao, at some point, used performance enhancing drugs. If memory serves me correctly, I believe he started cycling prior to the Diaz fight.
He's spent the last two years cycling off, in my opinion. Explains his dip in performance, especially in the areas of power and stamina.
It's not stupid, it's smart. Why wouldn't he want to eliminate/reduce the possibility that Pacquiao will use something against the rules even if he feels like he's an inferior fighter? You make no sense.
Brah, you don't always agree with what your idol says or believes in. That's extreme dickriding. If Pac believes Floyd is juicing and extra testing prevents the fight from happening, then I'm not supporting Pac. I don't even believe boxers would take that risk getting caught especially in high profile events.
Anyways, regardless of what Floyd believes, do you believe Pac is roiding? You have your own brain don't you?
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Stop it. This whole post is hilarious.
Brah, you know exactly what normal people are saying. You don't need extra testing to an inferior boxer. It's stupid no matter where you look at it. It makes you look like clowns. Mainstream media don't even cover this sh*t. Only clowns are into this joke.
Keep on fooling yourselves though.
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That's why all these talk about how "Floyd will school Pac" in the ring and all that crap is all just talk. Floyd loyalists really don't mean it in actuality. You don't defend a demand you think is unnecessary and at the same time say Pac is no match for Floyd. You're like a 10 year old putting another kid you're arguing with in a no-win situation. That's nothing more than bullying tactics.
I have yet to see Floyd loyal followers say Floyd would beat Pac without stringent testing. Fact that you're demanding extra test means you're impressed of Pac's skills, which negates your Floyd-would-school crappy theory.
Simply put, you can't have both premise and still come out normal.
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Stop it. This whole post is hilarious.
How old is Floyd compare to PAC? Are u telling me 13yr ago Floyd didn't ask for ost because there was no peds back then? And boxers get tested by the commission not like u meeting some random hootrat on the street to get some. Your comparison is wack s0n! Either admit that PAC is a threat that's why Floyd demanded for ost or shut up. How are u gonna demand extra testing from an easy work opponent that is gonna earn u the most money u've ever made? Shiit doesn't make any sense. I don't have any problem with his ost demand but atleast admit that pacman did shiit u've never seen before that's why ur asking for more testing.
Your only argument is that he's asking for testing...the same testing that allowed numerous fighters to cheat...regardless if they were eventually caught that's not the point...I'm sure de la hoya wish he would have known before hand that Shane was juiced up!! If u don't get the analogy I made then your not very bright...condoms weren't around since the beginning of time just like peds wasn't...someone invented the testing just like someone invented condoms to help prevent certain things from happening. Someone out there is working on a foul proof test to screen peds once in for all and there's someone out there trying to invent a drug that will pass that very test...nothing wrong with improvement...and as far as Pac being a threat, of course he is...its a fight, anything can happen!! Not sure u know this but its possible to like both Floyd and Pac...I just don't think Pac can f*@k with Floyd...at all!!!
Why is Floyd after 13 years and 40 fights in pro boxing suddenly invented OST?
That's why all these talk about how "Floyd will school Pac" in the ring and all that crap is all just talk. Floyd loyalists really don't mean it in actuality. You don't defend a demand you think is unnecessary and at the same time say Pac is no match for Floyd. You're like a 10 year old putting another kid you're arguing with in a no-win situation. That's nothing more than bullying tactics.
I have yet to see Floyd loyal followers say Floyd would beat Pac without stringent testing. Fact that you're demanding extra test means you're impressed of Pac's skills, which negates your Floyd-would-school crappy theory.
Simply put, you can't have both premise and still come out normal.
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Torrecsmpo, Singsurat, Morales and Marquez beat PED juiced up Pacquaio without the fake 2 months test. Why is Floyd can't do the same if you think he is really that good? Pac fans have no problem Pac taking the real test (all year round testing) but 2 months OST was a complete joke. Anyway, Pac wants to fight Floyd so he agreed. Hopefully Floyd doesnt throw another road block on this fight.
If Manny is on PEDs its after Diaz , if not it doesnt matter he wont be able to use them against Floyd anyway .
Why did Floyd want OST , because he has the power to enforce it , it also guarantees his fights are clean , thats a pretty good move if you can do it as every fighter would like to KNOW in his mind that their opponent is clean , Floyd is not the first to ask for blood testing so your wrong he didnt invent OST .
Now why does Manny invent CWs inside his own division , no other fighter in history has pulled a lame pu$$y act like that ,, whats the deal ?
Just because he has no skills doesn't mean he isn't taking enhancements.
Torrecsmpo, Singsurat, Morales and Marquez beat PED juiced up Pacquaio without the fake 2 months test. Why is Floyd can't do the same if you think he is really that good? Pac fans have no problem Pac taking the real test (all year round testing) but 2 months OST was a complete joke. Anyway, Pac wants to fight Floyd so he agreed. Hopefully Floyd doesnt throw another road block on this fight.
But manny is not an ATG, he's good but not an ATG like Floyd hahah. And Floyd is known to come over the weight limit, has pacman been caught yet?.... *crickets chirpping*...
I didn't ask what floyd did, I asked you why don't you have a problem when manny does something that no other ATG does? You failed to answer the question.
No, Pacman hasn't been caught yet. THat you ask it that way implies he will.