Where do you think Pac's career would have steered if he had stayed in GBP?

if he was GBP he would have probably fought Marquez, dela hoya, hatton and mosley (instead of cotto) and probabaly replace margarito and clottey with ortiz and berto then most probably PAC-PBF should have been an old story by now...

He never was with GBP. He was signed to Top Rank and then accepted a suitcase full of cash from sleazy De La Hoya who hijacked him with it when he stepped off a plane. As for where he'd be if he was with GBP..how many true superstars have GBP built? None so far. Alvarez and Khan are up and coming, but still not there. Pac would likely have stayed the 250K PPV, 1-2 million dollar purse fighter he was before Top Rank got a hold of him. No-one could have done for Pacquiao what Top Rank and Arum did.

Pacquiao was never with Golden Balls . He was with another promoter before Top Rank but Golden Balls tried to steal him in the well known well publicized event. Yet, although no matter how well it's known, there are still many supposedly boxing followers who know nothing about it. So how boxing savvy could they be. Oscar wanted MannyP. So he waited for an opportune moment to kidnap him. This was when he dragged Pacquiao off from the Los Angeles Airport after he'd just had a 16 hour plane trip, and no doubt had been awake for over 24 hours. He shlepped him to a restaurant even though MannyP begged to be allowed to go to his hotel to sleep. Oscar crammed him with food and drink, wouldn't take no for an answer. Eventually he agreed just to be able to leave, and Oscar gave him a cheque for $250,000, (it may have been $500,000) and allowed him to leave. He reported this to Arum and the legal feathers started flying. Pacquiao returned the uncashed cheque, and signed a long term contract with Arum. Arum and Golden Balls sued each other but Oscar lost the case. You see, Arum had also included a clause in Pacquiao's contract where it was illegal for him to even talk about a contract with another promoter whilst still inder contract to him. So Oscar lost out on every front, including expenses. Actually it was mediated where MannyP stayed with Top Rank and Golden Balls got a tiny %age of MannyP's purses when he'd fight a Golden Balls fighter. This is as far as I can recall, it was confusing and complicated, I may have some things wrong, and I;m sure there must have been more to it, but I don't know for sure.

Actually. On further thought. Pac's legacy would have been much different with gbp. We wouldnt be talking floyd-pac because pac never had any intention of going to welter if it wasn't for delahoya. But on the other hand we wouldnt be talking pac-marquez either. If you recall we had all just about forgotten who marquez was after his loss to chris john fighting a string of nobodies until he filled for pac against barrera. If pac-barrera 2 didnt get delayed that shutout of barrera would have been for the belt and marquez would have retired at 126 unable to land a big fight.

What star has GBP produced from the ground up? Their 2 biggest commodities, DLH and Floyd, were both built up from the beginning by Arum. And technically Floyd isn't part of their stable. Manny wouldn't be half the star and commercial success he is now. Even aside from the fight game, Top Rank hired a commercial agent who has gotten him several multi-million dollar deals since signing on. And on the political front, Arum used his connections, funds, and know-how to steer Manny's congressional campaign and has introduced him to such figures as Harry Reid. Even when Pac's boxing career is over, I'm sure Top Rank will be involved in all his political machinations. Oscar and co can't offer any of that. Only Abner Mares and his rise to glory has been shakey to say the least.

What star has GBP produced from the ground up? Their 2 biggest commodities, DLH and Floyd, were both built up from the beginning by Arum. And technically Floyd isn't part of their stable. Manny wouldn't be half the star and commercial success he is now. Even aside from the fight game, Top Rank hired a commercial agent who has gotten him several multi-million dollar deals since signing on. And on the political front, Arum used his connections, funds, and know-how to steer Manny's congressional campaign and has introduced him to such figures as Harry Reid. Even when Pac's boxing career is over, I'm sure Top Rank will be involved in all his political machinations. Oscar and co can't offer any of that.

Bit off topic but I think that if Ortiz stayed with Top Rank his career would have been so much better managed/guided.

Hmm, Pacquiao would have a lot more money in the bank. Roach said it was a better contract. No Michael Koncz. Less of a financial mess. We would have already seen Pacquiao-Mayweather. Pacquiao would still have Roach. Pacquiao would still have been great but maybe greater. Arum has a strong hold on Pacquiao on all aspects of his life. Why was Arum in the Philippines campaigning? Weird. I dont know, but I think Pac might have been better off at GBP. I don't think so. Remember the only reason we're all talking pac-floyd literally and not figuratively is because of the delahoya fight. It woulda been a serious conflict of interest to have a fight with the boss.

Pac v Hoya Trilogy

as much as i hate bob arum and top rank, no one could have done a better job hyping pacman. he would have gotten knocked out by floyd 2 years ago and would have missed out on 5 or 6, 20 million dollar paydays.

Hmm, Pacquiao would have a lot more money in the bank. Roach said it was a better contract. No Michael Koncz. Less of a financial mess. We would have already seen Pacquiao-Mayweather. Pacquiao would still have Roach. Pacquiao would still have been great but maybe greater. Arum has a strong hold on Pacquiao on all aspects of his life. Why was Arum in the Philippines campaigning? Weird. I dont know, but I think Pac might have been better off at GBP.

Just fighter who you think he wouldve faced different. When was the GB/TR promotion dispute over Pac? like 6-7 years ago? Around that time.

When exactly? Recently or a while ago Either way i dont think they couldnt have done any better for his career then Top Rank has done