If Margarito Knocks Cotto Out again......

I dont see how beating a man again after having hit him with plaster proves any innocence. Margarito was already found to be a cheater during the Mosley fight. If Cotto beats him, he gets his moral victory.. If Margarito beats him, it just shows that he could've beat him without the plaster.. it doesn't mean he didn't wear it on that night though.

Will he give Marg his due respect or will he continue to say his dog is more human than Margarito is, and that the black thread from the glove on his wrap is a crack that show the wraps were loaded? He will Cotto needs to mentally believe he was cheated in order to win thats all he has to hold on to in order to gain any type of mental advantage but once he finds out he was beat fair and square you will see it during the fight and Cotto will quit again BTW I looked into that crack on his wrap from 24/7 its not a black thread its actually marker from a sharpie from a member of the commission who signed off on the wrap making a vid to expose this truth

He probably would give Tony his respect. But at that point, who cares what Cotto thinks? Tony would have already proved was an innocent man, if Cotto admits it or not. Honestly, I cannot wait to hear what excuse Cotto fans will have. If the fight happens in NYC. Everything will be against Tony, it will be a pro-Cotto crowd, Tony is going with one eye, bookies will probably be against Tony. But on all that, if he comes out victorious, a lot of people on here owe him an apology. 'Proof' is impossible at this point. He's already been proved to be guilty...what remains is the judgement on all of his fights prior to the Mosley fight. If he wins against Cotto it *proves* nothing except that he was better on December 3.

Will he give Marg his due respect or will he continue to say his dog is more human than Margarito is, and that the black thread from the glove on his wrap is a crack that show the wraps were loaded? I would give him credit, but not respect. I just don't like him. He tried to cheat and then lied about having any knowledge of it. And because he has denied even vague or tangential knowledge means that he cannot or will not apologize for it. He is scum. He is not the most evil person in the world, and it may even be absurd to charge him with being evil at all given the spectrum of truly evil and heinous things people do to one another in this world every day, but I still deplore him. I suppose that I will have to view Schrödinger's wraps as both legal and not until we are able to reverse time and view them directly after the fight.

If Margarito managed to beat Cotto, Cotto probably still wouldn't give Margarito any respect. Fine - he may have beat him fair and square in the second meeting but he and many of us believe he had loaded gloves the first time. Beaten fair and square the second time doesn't redeem you and the respect is always lost for a fighter who has cheated in the past - it's what brings the sport into disrepute.

i don't get it you say margarito and cotto are knocking on the door for being ATG's but later on in your post you then confirm that cotoos has not reall had a dominant victory over another HOF'er. i'd say that cotto is going to take the KO in this fight. i just think margarito is spent now, the beating at the hands of pacman and SSM would have taken alot out of him. cotto seems to be slightly re-invigorated by moving to 154 and not only that he has a score to settle with margarito. i'd say that cotto is going to be ranked higher than margarito in the all time stakes. No, I was just saying that he hasn't done all that much since Margarito KO'd him. If Cotto beats Margarito, event hough Antonio is past it by far, and than were to beat Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG, although not nearly as high on that list as others. Same goes for Margarito, if he beats Cotto again, and than went on to beat Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG. But, regardless of the winner of Cotto-Margarito II, I don't see either one of them getting another really big win in their careers, therefore I don't think I will ever consider them ATG's, same as Ricky Hatton. I think the loser of this fight will retire. I think Cotto will ultimately go down as better than Margarito as well. If Cotto gets another big win in his career, his legacy as an ATG will be sealed, but I don't see it happening. Cotto's big fights 2004: Bailey- W TKO6 2005: Corley- W TKO5 2006: Malignaggi- W UD12 2006: Quintana- W TKO5 2007: Judah- W TKO11 2007: Mosley- W UD12 2008: Margarito- L TKO11 2009: Clottey- W SD12 2009: Pacquiao- L TKO12 2010: Foreman- W TKO9 2011: Margarito II- ????? If he beats Margarito this time around, and grabs a big win over Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG. It probably won't happen though. Margarito's big fights 2000: Martinez- W TKO7 2001: Santos- NC 1 2002: Diaz- W TKO10 2003: Lewis- W TKO2 2004: Santos- L TD10 2005: Cintron- W TKO5 2006: Clottey- W UD12 2007: Williams- L UD12 2008: Cintron- W KO6 2008: Cotto- W TKO11 2009: Mosley- L TKO9 2010: Pacquiao- L UD12 2011: Cotto- ???? Margarito has always been up and down his entire career it seems like. He beats Sergio, although Martinez was not as known back then, than beats Siaz and Lewis (2 good fighters at the time), and than drops a fight to Santos. Than, he comes back with big wins over a prime Cintron and Clottey, b ut then gets beaten by Williams. After that, he comes back with big wins over Cintron again and than Cotto, only to get KO'd by Mosley and than get destroyed by Pacquiao. If he were to come back and beat Cotto again, and than go on to get another big win (Kirkland or Lara?), I'd say he's an ATG, and I'd have to put him ahead of Cotto all-time. What people really forget about is how good Paul Williams once was.

If Cotto get's KTFO he will retire. I bet my "small" furtune on that! But no worries, Cotto will beat Margarito and come out victorious! :boxing:

It would damage Cotto's legacy BIG TIME. Cotto and Margarito both are really one big win away from being ATG's of their era, but the winner of this fight may be remembered as a ATG of their era, and the other probably won't. With that said, neither guy is in their prime, but Margarito is past his prime and not even that good anymore at all. The last time we saw Margarito somewhat prime was against Mosley in early 09', and he faded fast after getting KO'd by Mosley. The last time we saw a prime Cotto was in 08' against Margarito, and he has faded since, but not as quickly as Margarito has. However, Cotto is close to not even being that good anymore, and I would favor Kirkland, Lara, and Alvarez to beat him at this point. I think Cotto will win a UD over Margarito though. What's sad is the first Margarito fight really damaged Cotto. No matter what Pacquiao fans try and say, Cotto hasn't been that good or prime since that fight, not even close. After that fight, Cotto beat a no name in Jennings, arguably got beat and looked awful against a past prime Clottey, got killed by Pacquiao, beat an unproven prime Foreman, and beat a past prime Mayorga. He hasn't really done much. i don't get it you say margarito and cotto are knocking on the door for being ATG's but later on in your post you then confirm that cotoos has not reall had a dominant victory over another HOF'er. i'd say that cotto is going to take the KO in this fight. i just think margarito is spent now, the beating at the hands of pacman and SSM would have taken alot out of him. cotto seems to be slightly re-invigorated by moving to 154 and not only that he has a score to settle with margarito. i'd say that cotto is going to be ranked higher than margarito in the all time stakes.

You can't be an ATG of your own era. ATG = All-Time Great. All-Time = all eras. :lol1: Look man, you know what I meant. I meant like one of the ATG's on their era, though I don't think either one of them is at this point.

To be completely honest, I don't consider either of them to be ATGs in any era. Both of them are above average overrated fighters with a name. Even if Cotto wins this fight it's like...okay he beat a one eyed Margarito when he's 1-2 in his last three. Sure on an emotional scale it'd be big but legacy wise it's whatever. The same goes with Tony beating a shot Cotto at this point who fights for just the money now. This is a fight based off emotion. I didn't say I'd consider them ATG's, but you can bet that some people will. They are both a big win away from being ATG's, but this fight isn't the one. If Cotto were to beat Margarito this fight, although Antonio is far past it at this point, and than beat Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG. But, at this point, I don't think Cotto or Margarito will get another big win in their careers. I think Cotto and Margarito are where Ricky Hatton was. Hatton was another big win away from ebing an ATG, and he didn't get it. He came up short. Hatton is a really good fighter, but not an ATG, same with Margarito and Cotto.

It would damage Cotto's legacy BIG TIME. Cotto and Margarito both are really one big win away from being ATG's of their era, but the winner of this fight may be remembered as a ATG of their era, and the other probably won't. To be completely honest, I don't consider either of them to be ATGs in any era. Both of them are above average overrated fighters with a name. Even if Cotto wins this fight it's like...okay he beat a one eyed Margarito when he's 1-2 in his last three. Sure on an emotional scale it'd be big but legacy wise it's whatever. The same goes with Tony beating a shot Cotto at this point who fights for just the money now. This is a fight based off emotion.

It would damage Cotto's legacy BIG TIME. Cotto and Margarito both are really one big win away from being ATG's of their era, but the winner of this fight may be remembered as a ATG of their era, and the other probably won't. With that said, neither guy is in their prime, but Margarito is past his prime and not even that good anymore at all. The last time we saw Margarito somewhat prime was against Mosley in early 09', and he faded fast after getting KO'd by Mosley. The last time we saw a prime Cotto was in 08' against Margarito, and he has faded since, but not as quickly as Margarito has. However, Cotto is close to not even being that good anymore, and I would favor Kirkland, Lara, and Alvarez to beat him at this point. I think Cotto will win a UD over Margarito though. What's sad is the first Margarito fight really damaged Cotto. No matter what Pacquiao fans try and say, Cotto hasn't been that good or prime since that fight, not even close. After that fight, Cotto beat a no name in Jennings, arguably got beat and looked awful against a past prime Clottey, got killed by Pacquiao, beat an unproven prime Foreman, and beat a past prime Mayorga. He hasn't really done much.

We're supposed to apologize to that cheating bastard now? Everyone with something between their ears knows the first Margarito fight ruined Cotto. Getting hit by bricks instead of gloves can do that to you. So, we're supposed to suck Tony's **** for beating on him some more? Apologize?

would be no surprise

Pretty sure he will still hate him, but he'll do the humble thing and congrats him.