Without even trying or knowing they solved the controversy. The supposed crack, turns out to be nothing more than a piece of black thread. I noticed that during the video portion you are able to see it pretty clearly. The infamous photo is nothing more than a red herring. In the words of many a NSB poster "I confirmed it with slow motion." lol But, honestly check it out.
First of all, Nazim didn't do something above and beyond his duties, Several people are suppose to witness a fighter's hands being wrapped including someone from the opposing team, to make sure that what might have happened that night doesn't happen.
Second, It seems incredibly stupid for anyone in Cotto's corner, even more so his trainer, to not send someone over to Marg's room regardless of what Marg's corner decides to do.
I highly doubt that Nazim would not have gone to see Marg get his hands wrapped if Marg hadn't sent someone to Mosley's dressing room.
No crap
Those of you who have argued that finding black thread on the glove does not clear Tony of his accusations are geniuses, lol. It does however, put a huge damper on one of the very arguments Miguel used on 24/7. Miguel asked Kellerman and Tony to explain the black crack. I wonder what he would have to say if he saw the HD video footage. I find it amusing, how the same people who spent so much time preaching about the black crack, now find it insignificant. I appreciate the Green K I have received for being the first to point out this deception, most likely orchestrated by HBO.
no it wasnt me who said that y dont u re read? Maybe it started with cotto who knows all i said was he was sudpended for a reason. Second it didnt sound like they askedbout cottos punch. Hesaid Comp esta la pegada aka how is the punch. Not su pegada or his power la ans thats when cheatatillo said no que pegada seemed veey suspicious
Okay pappa this is where I call you out, your spanish is not that great.... FACT
Who knows when it started my guess wfter williams beat em . Thats not the point nazim found them plus margs hand was wrapped n signed off on them when he got there and they didnt wanna unwrap them for a reason.
Wasnt it you who stated both cintron fights? so now your saying after williams beat him? come on that means Manny stewart wasnt doing his job.
and the man who signed off the wrap for the Mosley fight why isnt he being questioned what made him decide the wrap was good enough to sign off? this is his job here its what he does and I doubt Margarito paid the man.
Mexican-style gauze used in professional bouts doesn't harden. I use it all the time in training, and even used gauze with dried sweat, etc. doesn't harden to the point of being substantially stiffer or harder than fresh gauze.
Also, the physical evidence isn't the only thing which points to loaded wraps. In-between rounds in Margarito's corner, you can plainly hear one of his team members ask him "How is the punch?," to which he responds by quickly trying to talk over because a camera is right next to him.
If he was being asked how Cotto's punch felt, he would have been asked in the first few rounds. He was clearly getting hit with plenty of shots and it would make sense to ask "how is the punch" at that time. Not in between the 9-10 rounds or whenever it was asked, when the fight was close to being over. He's asking Tony about his hand wraps and whether or not they're being effective. It seems obvious.
if you listen and understand spansih he was asking How Cottos power was
Look, the bottom line is we don't know what he's done in the past. Only God and his trainer know.
For me the bigger issue is the eye. At first I thought that it was only the broken orbital bone but since finding out he had to have a second procedure and that it was a cataract and blurred vision.....I hope he's not seriously hurt.
Has Nazim ever came out and flat out accused Margarito of loaded gloves?
Or did he just sit back and let the court of public opinions run a train on Margarito since they won that fight and Mosley looked impressive for the very last time.
Illegal wraps doesn't necessary means loaded gloves.
BTW, if they found plaster in Margarito's wraps, they wouldn't call it plaster-like substance. It wouldn't be a question, you'll know when you are touching plaster cast.
Oh it was only something like plaster? That makes itall ok then. It only resembled a brick? Thats fine then. Idiot.
Used wraps which also note alot of what he stated when this **** went down was mis translated as well, He stated he grabbed some pre used gauze pads out of his bag.
in other words they were used, from where I dont know but they were used pads that is a violation of the rules, However being that they were used anything could have been on them to be honest.
and again who is to say Mosleys team did not plant **** in those wraps? keep in mind Mosley stated Nazim took the pad from Margarito and brought it into their dressing room....
What I believe is that it was used pads either from the gym or from a previous fight, and like I said anybody who doubts this before talking **** go find out for your self.
go to a boxing club have your hands wrapped with surgical gauze with a knuckle pad made out of gauze, work out for two hours, remove the hand wrap but leave the pad in the form of a pad and grab it the next day see what it feels like.....
Anybody who really has been in the sport knows exactly what I am talkin about, it must be surgical gauze, not that bandage like **** which you do see in the gym not the everlast brand re usable wraps but the actual gauze that is used on fight night
Mexican-style gauze used in professional bouts doesn't harden. I use it all the time in training, and even used gauze with dried sweat, etc. doesn't harden to the point of being substantially stiffer or harder than fresh gauze.
Also, the physical evidence isn't the only thing which points to loaded wraps. In-between rounds in Margarito's corner, you can plainly hear one of his team members ask him "How is the punch?," to which he responds by quickly trying to talk over because a camera is right next to him.
If he was being asked how Cotto's punch felt, he would have been asked in the first few rounds. He was clearly getting hit with plenty of shots and it would make sense to ask "how is the punch" at that time. Not in between the 9-10 rounds or whenever it was asked, when the fight was close to being over. He's asking Tony about his hand wraps and whether or not they're being effective. It seems obvious.
What you mean by this punk? are you getting a bit racial here?
Not at all, i just know bulll**** when i smell it. For the resto fight actual bodily harm was caused, plus actual padding was removed from the glove, thats the difference here.
Now, give me one reasonable reason why those substances where anywhere near margs wraps huh?
Youre defending a cheat. Are you a man? Marg is a disgrace to our sport.
Has Nazim ever came out and flat out accused Margarito of loaded gloves?
Or did he just sit back and let the court of public opinions run a train on Margarito since they won that fight and Mosley looked impressive for the very last time.
Illegal wraps doesn't necessary means loaded gloves.
BTW, if they found plaster in Margarito's wraps, they wouldn't call it plaster-like substance. It wouldn't be a question, you'll know when you are touching plaster cast.
Ok they got suspended for no reason fuk outta here
Here is somethin else to ponder, lets say you are right for one moment here...
Whos fault is it really? you mean to tell me that 30 plus bouts fighting the fighters Margarito has fought with the experienced trainers in the opposite corner Not a single one caught Margarito?
that it was only Nazim who did his job? is that what your trying to tell me? cus ima be real even when my kid fights in the amateurs I inspect the **** out of those wraps so your going to tell me that all those trainers just didnt do their job?
I have a question.
Capetillo says he grabbed the wrong used Gauze/wraps. Since the used wraps were found with plaster like substance on them, where were they used previously??
Sparring?
Cotto fight?
Cintron fight?
Where?
Used wraps which also note alot of what he stated when this **** went down was mis translated as well, He stated he grabbed some pre used gauze pads out of his bag.
in other words they were used, from where I dont know but they were used pads that is a violation of the rules, However being that they were used anything could have been on them to be honest.
and again who is to say Mosleys team did not plant **** in those wraps? keep in mind Mosley stated Nazim took the pad from Margarito and brought it into their dressing room....
What I believe is that it was used pads either from the gym or from a previous fight, and like I said anybody who doubts this before talking **** go find out for your self.
go to a boxing club have your hands wrapped with surgical gauze with a knuckle pad made out of gauze, work out for two hours, remove the hand wrap but leave the pad in the form of a pad and grab it the next day see what it feels like.....
Anybody who really has been in the sport knows exactly what I am talkin about, it must be surgical gauze, not that bandage like **** which you do see in the gym not the everlast brand re usable wraps but the actual gauze that is used on fight night
they found 2 ingredients that are in plaster of paris, but it take alot more ingredients to make plaster of paris, what they found in on the wraps are found on common lotions and such, So it lends itself to the story that they werent cheating, that (what they found in margarito wraps) wouldent get hard when wet no matter what all these people say on the internet.
thread falls off and another clip shows part of the wrap basically chipped off like a scab. lets be real here ppl take your bias for either fighter away. why would marg only cheat against mosley. no he had been doing it for a while cotto was his biggest fight its irrational to think he didnt. watch the first then second cintron fights. marg didnt use them in the first used them in the second clear as day.
Actually Cintrons former conditioning coach who is on another forum stated when they were in Tonys dressing room that there was nothing extraordinary about his wraps.
He also stated that Cintron is just a big ****ing ***** and when he gets attacked thats the results you get.
The rematch with Cintron do you really believe Manny Steward is not going to notice something irregular? do you really think he isnt going to inspect the wraps for his fighter?
Be ****ing real....
That's easy, I thought you were going to have tough questions or something.
Resto - Committed an assault with a deadly weapon. He was arrested for his actions.
Margarito - Attempted, but was caught before any assault took place. In fact, the only assault that took place that night was Mosley on Margarito.
For someone who has done so much research, why don't you understand this Dr. Zooka?
NOTE: He's called Dr. Zooka for his scientific expertise regarding Calcium Sulfur/Sulfate.
Maybe because it was found that resto used it in the ring and vs mosley marg got exposed before he could use it. Let me put it in a more simple way for you marg didnt fight mosley with loaded wraps because they took them out before the fight.
You can still charge them with attempted assault with a deadly weapon or even attempted murder but you would have to prove he wanted to kill him however you can still charge both with Attempted assault with a deadly weapon.
thread falls off and another clip shows part of the wrap basically chipped off like a scab. lets be real here ppl take your bias for either fighter away. why would marg only cheat against mosley. no he had been doing it for a while cotto was his biggest fight its irrational to think he didnt. watch the first then second cintron fights. marg didnt use them in the first used them in the second clear as day.
Well what They found was enough to get his trainer banned you moron! What the **** are they doing with any of that stuff anyway? Wake up you greasy bull****ting bastard.
What you mean by this punk? are you getting a bit racial here?