A new expression has been born!!
"The Top Rank / Freddie Roach propaganda machine has been selling us Pacquiao p0rn!!!!"
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Over the last few days you’ve read and heard a mountain of opinions on Manny Pacquiao. His performance Saturday night versus arch rival Juan Manuel Marquez was certainly disappointing to his fans because they went into the fight believing that Marquez was finally ready to be taken. Decisively and by KO! All the pertinent factors were in their favor. Three years had passed making it practically a guarantee that Juan Manuel was past his prime and during that time he engaged in intense wars with the likes of Juan Diaz and Michael Katsidis. But perhaps the most telling event came when he was out technique’d in shut out fashion by Floyd Mayweather Jr fighting at a similar weight (over 140 lbs) in which Marquez looked slow, soft and with little zip on his punches. Oh, and let’s not forget that he was also 38 years old! Damn near every talking head wrote a variation of “he’s in BIG trouble” which increased the perception that Marquez was certain to fall. In fact, considering all the public pessimism any logical person would conclude that Marquez was every bit the 9-1 underdog that the Vegas intelligentsia made him out to be.
But, once again he didn’t fight like one..
The legacy of Juan Manuel Marquez is filled with him doing things he’s not supposed to be able to do and it’s quite clear that Team Pacquiao (Freddie Roach and Bob Arum) grossly underestimated Marquez and grossly overestimated Manny Pacquiao’s technical improvement over the years since their last meeting. We’ve heard nothing but a constant drone from damn near every mountain top from boxing “expert’s” singing the praises of Manny Pacquiao being a “complete fighter” yet, his performance against a massively handicapped (or thought to be) foe tends to refute that claim. So, what IS the issue? You’ve heard a small minority say that they have seen signs of slippage that began in the Mosley fight but those opinions were largely muted and were explained away by blaming Shane for fighting almost exclusively in survival mode. Not to mention, Manny had “leg cramps” which is again being cited for Saturday night’s lack luster performance. This after we’ve been told over and over again that “this camp was different”. According to Roach “there was a SPECIAL intensity to Manny for this one” and “this was personal”. Going in all indications were that Manny was 100% dedicated and prepared but now we’re being told “well, he might have been distracted”…..The truth of the matter is that he’s ALWAYS distracted with a 60 person entourage and going on talk shows the night before the fight so its not fair to Marquez to imply these things.
The reality is Manny Pacquiao does not have the technical capacity to beat Juan Manuel Marquez decisively and no one knows this better than Manny Pacquiao and Freddie Roach. This thing backfired in their face in the worst possible way because Marquez was supposed to be done just like Shane Mosley was done just like Antonio Margarito was done just like Joshua Clottey was “offensively passive” just like Miguel Cotto was “damaged goods” and so on. That’s why JMM got the fight. Remember there were a whole lot of people scoffing at this match up when it was initially made and the prevailing sentiment was this was going to be a slaughter, a tune up, a professional b1tch slap, etc….! Roach who has been exceptional in assessing how long it will take Manny to finish his opponent off is apparently losing his physic powers because this is the second fight in a row where he was way off! But, what we’ve really learned is that the Top Rank / Freddie Roach propaganda machine has been selling us Pacquiao P0rn and Manny is only slightly better technically than the fighter we saw Juan Manuel Marquez face back in 2008.
Works both ways. It was an easy fight to score if you are a Pachater.
Thank God the judges weren't blind. Their scorecard is what matters. (2-0-1 Pac vs. JMM)
Just stop already, going into the fight Saturday night more people loved Manny than hated Manny, even the biggest hater (Mayweather fans) wanted to see Pacquiao take care of business but he lost, a draw would be acceptable but no way did Pacquiao do anything to deserve a win. Though not dominating, Marquez was in total control of the action and with so many close rounds, he deserved the nod for his ring generalship on the cards. The only people who had Pac winning are bias Pac fans or in on the fix.
Last time I post something about this fight unless I make a thread of my own. There is no need to argue, too many people agree with me.
Marquez whooped that azz and there is no sugar coating it. I love how Marquez moved to the left and completely confused Pacquiao.
I learned something new by watching that, not just about Pac but about orthodox technique vs southpaw technique. Marquez really seemed to have used the first 4 rounds programming himself while analyzing Pac's movements.
thats not how i and Judge GlennTrowbridge saw it
jmm spent the first 4 rounds trying to back up his ko promise and instead got his face caved in by pacquiao.
he then spent the next 8 rounds going back to his counterpunching style because he didnt want to get laid out by pac yet again.
in close rounds, you favor the aggressor for good reason - they take the risks and you have to reward that risk.
if you're going to counter punch, then you have to at least clearly get the better of the aggrssor
i reitterate: if jmms punches were so clean, why did pacs face show no signs of damage at all....except for the heabutt.
Damn, this article is like kryptonite to all the remaining idiot pactards who are desperately trying in vain to sway public opinion towards their GOD winning.
to be fair...
marquez did not beat up or dominated pacquiao. he made pacquiao look bad. both fighter took damages, look at their faces.
the fight was close and the judges favored the aggressor.
most of the time the champion usually
gets the nod when a fight is close.
i am not impressed with pacquiao either.
in a way your right..
jmm made pac looked bad....
like shane did make pac looked bad..
compare the 3 fights of pac vs jmm...
jmm did a little better modified version of shane in 3...
i still think jmm did much better in fights 1 & 2...
unfortunately for juan, it is apparently not enough for the judges that pac looked bad...
I'm not a Pac hater and I thought Marquez won in all the 3 viewings I had of the fight.
There are plenty of Pac fans who thought so too. There's a reason why most people think Marquez won.
Just saying.
When you get a clean sweep of ex atg's all claiming a Marquez victory, that's when you know.
Works both ways. It was an easy fight to score if you are a Pachater.
Thank God the judges weren't blind. Their scorecard is what matters. (2-0-1 Pac vs. JMM)
I'm not a Pac hater and I thought Marquez won in all the 3 viewings I had of the fight.
There are plenty of Pac fans who thought so too. There's a reason why most people think Marquez won.
Just saying.
the only issues that i have with all of this:
1. a lot people are upset at pacquiao, it is not his fault that the judges gave him the decision.
2. Pactard makes lame excuses for his poor performance.
3. Marquez deserves at least a draw.
Well... in regards to 1. he did say something along the lines of "I clearly won everyone who thinks otherwise must be Mexican." That's pretty disrespectful to the real boxing fans who call it like they see it.
Works both ways. It was an easy fight to score if you are a Pachater.
Thank God the judges weren't blind. Their scorecard is what matters. (2-0-1 Pac vs. JMM)
its actually 3-0-0 for pacquiao.
when the judge admits to the whole world afterwards that he should have scored it 10-6 for pacquiao we all know it really means he won.
i also had pacquiao winning all 3
Damn, this article is like kryptonite to all the remaining idiot pactards who are desperately trying in vain to sway public opinion towards their GOD winning.
Just a little something to back up this article...............................................
Sugar Ray Leonard said Marquez won!
Marvin Hagler said Marquez won!
Bernard Hopkins said Marquez won!
Floyd Mayweather said Marquez won!
Oscar De La Hoya said Marquez won
Andre Direll said Marquez won!
Zab Judah said Marquez won!
Steve Cunningham said Marquez won!
Anthony Direll said Marquez won!
Matthew Macklin said Marquez won!
Andre Ward said Marquez won!
Terry Norris said Marquez won!
Andre Berto said Marquez won!
Omar Henry said Marquez won!
Chris Arreola said Marquez won!
Rashad Holloway said Marquez won!
Fernando Vargas said Marquez won!
Juan Diaz said Marquez won!
Amir Khan said Marquez won!
Anthony Mundine said Marquez won!
Erik Morales said Marquez won!
Jean Pascal said Marquez won!
Marco Antonio Barrera said Marquez won!
Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. said Marquez won!
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. said Marquez won!
Jorge Linares said Marquez won!
Peter Manfredo said Marquez won!
Michael Marley said Marquez won!
Darren Barker said Marquez won!
Marcos Maidana said Marquez won!
Raul Martinez said Marquez won!
J'Leon Love said Marquez won!
Lou DiBella said Marquez won!
Josesito Lopez said Marquez won!
Nazeem Richardson said Marquez won!
Sergio Martinez said Marquez won!
The people have spoken, the boxing fans have spoken, boxers, trainers, boxing writers, promoters, EVERYONE has spoken and they say that Marquez won the fight!
Now let me show you of the list of people who thought Pac won...........
Pactards say Pacquiao won!
Bob Arum said Pacquiao won!
And Harold Lederman!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!! !!!
^lol I guess all of those fighters and legends are "JEALOUS OF PACQUIAO" at least that is what some Pacquiao Fans would try to say lol
ive watched and listened to the British primetime version commentry which was Amir 'chin' Khan and HBO version primetime version i had Marquez winning and watching Pacquiao teams body language they knew it but then i watch and listen to HBO version and they bloody convinced me Pacquaio won. all in the production i say......Its all panto.......
Article is basically true. There are many examples of it. The most atrocious that immediately comes to mind is the Mayweather vs ODLH fight. The commentary during and after was abhorrent. I challenge any impartial boxing fan to watch this fight and not want to vomit at the commentary!!!!!!
that article is the TRUTH!!!....really nice read!!!...good looking out TS :fing02:
IMHO its not, specially when he mentioned it was an easy fight to score!
it was a close fight, almost all rounds were close ....
"You have to resort to trying to be 3 different people just to make it seem like Pac has that many supporters when in reality it is just one lonely sad excuse for a man sitting behind a computer at his mommas house in a room covered in Pac posters posting furiously on all 3 accounts like an obsessed teenage girl!"
LOL! that is HILARIOUS!
thumbs up.
lolz coming from an alt created in june ... he he
Maybe, but I dont think they (Arum, HBO and sanctioning bodies) care. As long as they're pockets are filling up with the lovely WONGA! Its all about how much cash they can kick out of boxing's rotting corpse.
(Bit graphic? Sorry :omfg: )
The truth.
that article is the TRUTH!!!....really nice read!!!...good looking out TS :fing02:
Anytime Bro. :boxing:
Do these clowns understand that they are killing the great sport of boxing and they are openning the door up wide for MMA to just walk on through!!!
Maybe, but I dont think they (Arum, HBO and sanctioning bodies) care. As long as they're pockets are filling up with the lovely WONGA! Its all about how much cash they can kick out of boxing's rotting corpse.
(Bit graphic? Sorry :omfg: )