Manny PACQUIAO'S Power at WelterWeight.

All weight drained isnt that coincidental its a wonder you didnt notice it . Bro, it is no ones fault but Oscar for looking like crap @147. Not Mannys fault whatsoever. I know Floyd is kicking himself for not taking that rematch. I'm done arguing about Cotto and Margs with you. You have your opinion about their weights, I have mine. And about Mosley earlier, I don't take Manny and Sugar's fight too seriously. Hell they didn't.

He overwhelms and does hurt with accumulation. He's not as ferocious the last few fights. But the way he hurt Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito - there bigger guys and his power was impressive enough. All weight drained isnt that coincidental its a wonder you didnt notice it .

Everyone questions his power at WW, Nobody questions Marquez's at WW. Marquez relies on boxing ability.

A lot of Pacquiao's power comes from his huge leg muscles and Ariza's upper body conditioning yea after he got whooped by jmm last weekend he blamed his "leg cramps" :lol1: that dude is a bum who can't fight for sh1t....bob arum is doing a smart thing by ducking mayweather...pac would get smashed then mr congressman no go to jimmy kimmel show to sing song and pretend to be very humble man.

He overwhelms and does hurt with accumulation. He's not as ferocious the last few fights. But the way he hurt Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito - there bigger guys and his power was impressive enough.

Reading comprehension is not your thing I guess. I know what the weights- pre-fight and fight nights were. Oscars fault for picking on LWs. Ok catchweights it is. Cotto was not drained. Fight night rds 1-5 proves Miguel was cool. If you cant see this... Marg, after his suspension (not long enough imo) fought 1 time above WW. Before that his career was in WW. That extra weight was Margs advantage not Manny. Floyd fought Hatton after Ricky struggled with Lazcano. I know. So what you saying? Floyd cherry picked a "fat" Hatton? If Manny is such a hype-job, why did it take 2 years for Floyd to demand a fight with him. Vacations and not thinking about boxing are much worse than trying to rematch a rival. Marg fought at 154 ,was out for 2 yrs and could not make 147 ever again , he couldnt make 150 good either , when you drain a fighter it hurts them . Floyd fought Hatton who was undefeated and Hatton weighed the exact same on fight night that he weighed when he beat KT and Castillo , againnst Floyd it was the best version of Hatton to ever set foot in a ring , and guess what kid Floyd was a pound lighter on the night , it was Jnr WWs fighting for a WW title . Cotto came of the career stopping beating , Roach said publicly he is ready for the taking because he is damaged goods , Cotto was still forced to a CW ,, why did they do that ? CW a WC WW inside your own division WTF . Do we need to go around again about Manny ducking Mosley and Cwing JMM ? Floyd demanded a fight 2 yrs ago , was left standing at the table while Duckman ran of to the in house paid to lose Clottey , Now Manny is doing the Duckman again trying to run away and fight a 4th JMM instead of Floyd , buddy pull your head out of you ass its fuken obvious who is ducking who , Manny is a WW fraud and a hype job and if he fights Floyd you will see why .

You are correct, I was thinking Collazo. at 147 for Hatton. OOPs. Hatton did get rocked late in that fight too. I wouldn't call it a struggle though.

Everyone questions his power at WW, Nobody questions Marquez's at WW.

there aren't to many people who have put those guys away either though, he hurt them the most. He might not hit like Hearns or Tito, but he's an A class banger for sure. Anything below WW though I'd say he's a devastating puncher. He never really connected on Marquez flush, but it looked like if he did it would have been good night. Pac was known for dropping guys with one punch in the lower weights, I remember when I first started watching him you would just bet on him dropping the guy at some point, thats what made him so exciting.

Hatton struggled with Lazcano AFTER fighting Floyd. Get your timeline right. You are correct, I was thinking Collazo. at 147 for Hatton. OOPs.

Let's see what happens when floyd falls down 4 times lol until it gets stopped. He shuts down fighters with his power he makes them backpedal thats why they dont go down. Manny is killer a close mid range but if you run Manny doesn't know how to corner you. That's the true.

Reading comprehension is not your thing I guess. I know what the weights- pre-fight and fight nights were. Oscars fault for picking on LWs. Ok catchweights it is. Cotto was not drained. Fight night rds 1-5 proves Miguel was cool. If you cant see this... Marg, after his suspension (not long enough imo) fought 1 time above WW. Before that his career was in WW. That extra weight was Margs advantage not Manny. Floyd fought Hatton after Ricky struggled with Lazcano. I know. So what you saying? Floyd cherry picked a "fat" Hatton? If Manny is such a hype-job, why did it take 2 years for Floyd to demand a fight with him. Vacations and not thinking about boxing are much worse than trying to rematch a rival. Hatton struggled with Lazcano AFTER fighting Floyd. Get your timeline right.

I'm trying to figure out how he hurt Margarito while Marquez was able to walk through his shots. Makes absolutely no sense.

Hey buddy what are you going on about steroids for , Im talking about CWs , you know the ones Manny forces on opponents , the ones that allow him to look good against a fighter that without the weight draining would beat Manny . Manny didnt weighin at 148 that was his fight night weight , Oscar weighed in at 145 and need IV fluids to gain 2 pounds , Freddie when he saw that said Oscar wont go 3 rounds ,,, OSCAR WAS DEAD MAN WALKING but you claim it as one of Mannys big wins , Oscar at 160 on the night would beat Manny and thats real . Cotto another CW , why force it if it dont mean nothing ,,, it means a lot and they know it . Margo another CW and a 26 ft ring and illegal 8oz gloves . All of Pacs biggest WW wins were cherry picked and CWed , they all come of of their biggest loses and were at the end of there careers , especially Mosley what a sham , ducked him like a chikensh!t when he was looking good and waited untill he lost twice and looked like sh!t , and then shot to sh!t .Mosley makes him look bad , now a CW on JMM ,,,,, buddy get real . Bottom line is without a CW Pac struggles , unless your a washed up face first Hatton that looked terrible against Lascano . Manny is being exposed for the hype job he is and if he fights Floyd the job will be complete . Reading comprehension is not your thing I guess. I know what the weights- pre-fight and fight nights were. Oscars fault for picking on LWs. Ok catchweights it is. Cotto was not drained. Fight night rds 1-5 proves Miguel was cool. If you cant see this... Marg, after his suspension (not long enough imo) fought 1 time above WW. Before that his career was in WW. That extra weight was Margs advantage not Manny. Floyd fought Hatton after Ricky struggled with Lazcano. I know. So what you saying? Floyd cherry picked a "fat" Hatton? If Manny is such a hype-job, why did it take 2 years for Floyd to demand a fight with him. Vacations and not thinking about boxing are much worse than trying to rematch a rival.

Bro, how many crackers you eat today. You keep parroting the same crap. Debate about what. You even know that Manny weighed in at 148 w/DLH. Same fight night weight w/Jmm 3 -many years later. Wheres all that bulk from the steroids/PEDs? He was always the same size. Stop imitating what Floyd and his yes men say. I know Floyds man-love keeps you biased towards him, its ok. Floyd will beat Jmm anytime, yeah so. He paid his fine, b/c he knew that was foul. Hey buddy what are you going on about steroids for , Im talking about CWs , you know the ones Manny forces on opponents , the ones that allow him to look good against a fighter that without the weight draining would beat Manny . Manny didnt weighin at 148 that was his fight night weight , Oscar weighed in at 145 and need IV fluids to gain 2 pounds , Freddie when he saw that said Oscar wont go 3 rounds ,,, OSCAR WAS DEAD MAN WALKING but you claim it as one of Mannys big wins , Oscar at 160 on the night would beat Manny and thats real . Cotto another CW , why force it if it dont mean nothing ,,, it means a lot and they know it . Margo another CW and a 26 ft ring and illegal 8oz gloves . All of Pacs biggest WW wins were cherry picked and CWed , they all come of of their biggest loses and were at the end of there careers , especially Mosley what a sham , ducked him like a chikensh!t when he was looking good and waited untill he lost twice and looked like sh!t , and then shot to sh!t .Mosley makes him look bad , now a CW on JMM ,,,,, buddy get real . Bottom line is without a CW Pac struggles , unless your a washed up face first Hatton that looked terrible against Lascano . Manny is being exposed for the hype job he is and if he fights Floyd the job will be complete .

MArg wasnt at WW

Maybe they should have a rematch so Floyd can own that ass again , you think 3 pounds will beat Floyd , how about Manny fight Oscar where Oscar is 160lbs like he was against Floyd lol , Oscar is a different animal when you have to give him a stone in weight like Floyd did , Manny 148 outweighed Oscar 147 who had not been that light in a ring since he was a LW , and Oscar needed IV fluids to gain 2 lbs lol , thats dead man walking . If you want to debate me about the weight game Manny is playing lets go ? Bro, how many crackers you eat today. You keep parroting the same crap. Debate about what. You even know that Manny weighed in at 148 w/DLH. Same fight night weight w/Jmm 3 -many years later. Wheres all that bulk from the steroids/PEDs? He was always the same size. Stop imitating what Floyd and his yes men say. I know Floyds man-love keeps you biased towards him, its ok. Floyd will beat Jmm anytime, yeah so. He paid his fine, b/c he knew that was foul.

the PED talk is not for his power is for his conditioning and having the stamina to jump around the ring for 12 rounds while throwing 1000+ punches, and his head getting bigger or so I heard He's always had that conditioning and stamina, so I've never bought that either. As far as his head, it looks no bigger to me. Fuller cheeks, that's about it. I'm not getting into this again though. I've had this argument too many times.

He has legit power at 147 but not 1 punch knockout power. As a poster highlighted that his pretty much been the case his whole career.

Manny pacquiao has plenty of 8oz power. Even at welterweight. He just couldn't hurt Marquez because he couldn't catch him cleanly. Now 10 oz? I don't know I think he is too small to cause real damage to a strong fighter with 10 ouncers.