Juan Manuel Marquez sets conditions for a 4th bout with Manny Pacquiao
Ricardo Lois, Latino Boxing Examiner
November 15, 2011
Just days away from a majority decision defeat to Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez set conditions for a fourth bout with the Filipino boxing icon.
“Now I am the one who will put forth the conditions. I want to see if it is true that Manny Pacquiao fights for the people. First he has to accept that he lost, the WBO must not accept the decision they gave him, and give him a no-contest,” Marquez told Mexican news outlet Proceso.
In the days following Saturday nights bout between Marquez and Pacquiao, their third, promoter Bob Arum has made public comments about pursuing a fourth bout between the two boxers.
Marquez also noted he would want atleast 10 million dollars for a fourth fight with Manny Pacquiao, and would want the event to be housed in Mexico City’s Estadio Azteca.
Yet Marquez is not sure if he will retire or continue boxing, stating that a decision will be made within twenty days.
http://www.examiner.com/latino-boxing-in-national/juan-manuel-marquez-sets-conditions-for-a-4th-bout-with-manny-pacquiao
If Marquez sticks to his guns on these conditions, fight ain't happening. So everything should be cleared up in 3 weeks or so.
Marquez is putting up these crazy conditions as a negotiating tactic.
When he says 10mill, he's really aiming for 8mill.
The fight being in Mexico should not be a problem. That's not a crazy condition at all. It would be fun to watch/hear the crazy sold out crowd in Azteca Stadium or w/e is called.
The fight being turned to an NC is just him being rightfully angry and emotional and he knows it's not gonna happen.
I think he does want the re match but is just still understandably reeling with anger that he's been ripped off 3 times. It's disgusting.
Now it's not quite so clear cut, they were all close fights. But imagine if you were him, right now.
It's too early for him to make realistic, non emotional comments as to a 4th match without his anger and a reaction coming into it.
The changing the decision thing is not for Manny, take that out there may be a slight chance they can negotiate something.
I think JMM loses a 4th match though and it might leave us all with an empty feeling. It would make the records seem Pac finally stamped that he's better. But that's not the reality. JMM out of his weight class and at 38, just beat Pac. Asking anything more 6 months down the line, is surely too much.
Deep in me, I want Pac vs JMM 4 to happen immediately, like in January or something...
So both of them are still angry and the wounds are still fresh for them to prove they are the better fighter.
But Floyd is talking now, so I'd rather have Manny take that fight first... JMM can get it in November 2012.
This goes for both Pac and JMM, if neither can KO each other, then this quadrilogy is a draw on all counts.
i wouldn't blame pacquiao for not wanting to fight in mexico soon after what happened on saturday. if the drug cartels don't go after him once he steps off the plane then you can bet the entire country will. **** i'd rather see floyd vs pac next and then jmm right after.
Why would the mexican drug cartels care about a boxing match? If anything, it might even put a cease-fire when these two gets it on, similar to how crimes drops in the Philippines when Manny fights.
TBH, I don't think JMM will get Mexico venue for the 4th fight... demand more money, that's really all he can do. $10mm is a good figure to retire with.
I think he does want the re match but is just still understandably reeling with anger that he's been ripped off 3 times. It's disgusting.
Now it's not quite so clear cut, they were all close fights. But imagine if you were him, right now.
It's too early for him to make realistic, non emotional comments as to a 4th match without his anger and a reaction coming into it.
The changing the decision thing is not for Manny, take that out there may be a slight chance they can negotiate something.
I think JMM loses a 4th match though and it might leave us all with an empty feeling. It would make the records seem Pac finally stamped that he's better. But that's not the reality. JMM out of his weight class and at 38, just beat Pac. Asking anything more 6 months down the line, is surely too much.
Mmmm Pac is giving JMM a 4th shot at beating him and JMM is now acting like the queen of France? WTF man just take the fight you fool, it'll be the last shot you get.
OMG you guys just don't understand what JMM is really trying to do here, you really don't. SMH
Are you so dense that you can't see the hand forcing going on here? Let me lay it out for you in simple terms, even the most diehard nuthugger can understand.....
1.) Pacquiao is not going to accept these terms, right? I think everybody can agree on that. So with no Marquez bout on the table, he will be forced to look for a fight with someone else, correct?
Good, glad you're still following me. Now then...
2.) What's the biggest fight to be made in boxing right now? Mayweather/Pacquiao. So this becomes the obvious choice.
If Pacquiao ducks Mayweather, to fight Bradley or anybody other than Mayweather, he'll be crucified for it in the court of public opinion, and you pactards will start dropping off this forum like flies.
MAYWEATHER OR BUST.
Thanks for playing.
You just laweyed that guy. Well done.
Great stuff. Basically kills any chance of a fourth fight, which is exactly what I was hoping for. Make Pacquiao fight Mayweather.
Yes! Finally someone gets it.
marquez is being delusional,
I mean asking for 10 mills is ok, hell He should ask for 15mills, but ask for Pac to admit defeat(in a fight that could had gone either way) is ludacris, and to make the WBO change the desicion to a No Contest is ridiculous!!
Asking for the fight to be in Mexico is not unrealistic but is very very much imposible to happend.
Pacquiao will either fight, Mayweather, Bradley or Cotto, he dont really need JMM
That's the point numnuts! :D
Unfortunately all of these conditions are a fantasy in Marquez's head.
:pat: Of course they are, JMM is doing it on propose, he want's to stick it to Team Arum. Get it?!
In other words he doesn't want a 4th fight.
I don't understand why he would. Also, Arum wouldn't be there. He's mentioned that he couldn't go back to Mexico.
You're a damn fool if you think he's being literal. It's obvious such demands would never be met.
I agree with you 100%, people on here are idiots if they think Marquez was serious about all these demands.
The $10 Million minimum to fight him again is probably a demand he is 100% serious about. I also think he wants the fight in Mexico, but he probably could be persuaded otherwise. As for the other crap, no way he is just venting and trying to make his point.
People on here are gullible.
wow... this shít is getting out of hand... this is what happens when biased fans enable a fighter to continue being delusional... i was rooting for jmm, but i wouldnt cry robbery.
• nacho claiming the worst robbery in 52 years??? that statement alone proves how delusional their camp is.
• going into the 10th/11th round assuming victory when the unwritten rule is the champ gets benefit of close rounds.... big mistake
• do we automatically assume jmm won the round because pac didnt dominate the round? is this the same case when ortiz "won" rounds because floyd didnt completely shut him down?
• pactards complaining about the foot stomping technique should go choose another sport to ruin.
• marquez was NOT running.... but he wasnt exactly bringing it to pac either.... its hard to justify winning a title by sitting back and waiting for the counter and then easing off during the championship rounds (even floyd turns up the offense and walks his opponents down towards the end of the fight, so why couldnt jmm?)...
• pac showed frustration and impatience during the fight, clearly he expected a war... not a chess match (his fault for not forcing the action better). bad strategy....
• pac claiming "he clearly won" is pretty weak
• jmm whining it was a "robbery" is even weaker. the dude actually thinks he won BOTH previous bouts CLEARLY. even roach and pac admit it was close... why cant jmm?
BTW, i scored it a draw initially (leaning towards a jmm SD victory).... no way was it a "robbery".... but after watching the fight again numerous times, i noticed pac landing more than i thought. did he land the cleanest shots??? nope... but for every jmm counterpunch, pac landed 2-3 decent shots of his own during each exchange. i can honestly say, i can see why pac was gifted the decision... BUT for the sake of the trilogy and the importance of the fight, it shouldve been a draw... jmm deserved credit for putting the champ in check.
for jmm to consider retirement reminds me of hagler retiring after the leonard loss.... it would be a sad day if jmm retires.
Who do you think you are, bringing thought, rationale, and logic here?
OK, Marquez is just talking sht. He will take whatever Arum disses out because after all, its the highest payroll He can get right now. They are not going to accept they loss. (a little crazy there) but He might make the 10 millions He wants.
i wouldn't blame pacquiao for not wanting to fight in mexico soon after what happened on saturday. if the drug cartels don't go after him once he steps off the plane then you can bet the entire country will. **** i'd rather see floyd vs pac next and then jmm right after.
Man you all are going soft on JMM
I think that is a joke
wanting 10 mil is cool cause I think he got 6 for this last one
and having it in estadio azteca is awesome!
but changing the win to a NC and then for pac to admit he lost
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You're a damn fool if you think he's being literal. It's obvious such demands would never be met.
He can, but will he?
I doubt it.
I stated last year that the fight will not happen. Both fighters will stand their ground and nothing will come out of it.
Kudos to JMM for playing hardball. There is no way he gets this stuff, but I like the move. Ifr manny and bob are going to duck floyd again, make them pay. If not, let them fight tim and maybe JMM calls floyd out again.
Pac can say no to the demands and he will move on. Pac can go fight Mayweather. It don't matter if Pac losses, the money that he will earn will comfort him.
JM Marquez on the other hand can fight somebody else and make less money.
Man you all are going soft on JMM
I think that is a joke
wanting 10 mil is cool cause I think he got 6 for this last one
and having it in estadio azteca is awesome!
but changing the win to a NC and then for pac to admit he lost
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