When it comes to sports there isn't...

Another country like America. Alright, let me break down WHY there has been such a big decline in American boxing, especially in the HW division. A lot of people (Mostly Euro fans that know nothing about sports in America) and claim that it's just that Euro fighters are beating the up and coming fighters even though there haven't been any lol. There is a reason the American HW rankings look like this: 1. Eddie Chambers (Blown up Cruiserweight) 2. Tony Thompson (40 years old) 3. Lawrence (who? 36 Y.O) 4. Arreola, Once again a guy that could probably make 190 if he wasn't such a fat ass. 5. Holyfield (49 Y.O) 6. Boswell (42 Y.O) 7. Harris (25-15, 35 Y.O) 8. Grant (39 Y.O) 9. Barrett (40 Y.O) etc. As you see, the top Americans are a bunch of old guys that are WAAAAY past their prime and a few blown up out of shape cruisers. But what happened to all of the would be HW's? They're playing other sports, American football, soccer, basketball, baseball, swimming, track and field, the list goes on and on. When these Euro fans hear this they immediately dismiss it as false but it's 100% true and if you keep reading on you'll see why, no bullsh^t here just facts. Look at the guys in the NBA, or even in college, both in football and basketball. You'll find a bunch of HUGE genetic freaks, these guys are ATHLETES. What is an athlete? An athlete is someone that can adapt to pretty much any sport, an example would be one of boxing's ATG's-Roy Jones Jr. who was a very good basketball player. It's sort of natural ability, these people have certain genetics that allow them to excel in pretty much any sport. Look at guys like Lebron James, Ben Wallace, Wade, Tony Allen, etc. I can name thousands. Guys in the NFL as well. Here, go ahead and look at the college roster for basketball, click on any of them and look at how big these guys are: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/teams Sports and school: Alright PAY ATTENTION here. Here is how our school system works (For the majority of America): We have 3 different types of schools Elementary ages 5-11 Middle School ages 10-14 High School ages 14-18 Understand? Good. Americans start playing SCHOOL sports when they reach Middle School. If we don't want to play sports we have the option to take Physical Education, Choir, or Band some **** like that. The BIGGEST most ATHLETIC kids will play Football, Basketball, soccer, track and field etc. Do they have to pay? Not really, school sports are pretty much free, you might have to buy some cleats but it isn't a lot of money. I grew up in a poor area, so we had fundraisers for sports, rarely will you have to spend a lot of money on equipment. ANYONE can play sports. Just how big are Middle School football/basketball/baseball/soccer rosters? Basketball-Around 10 players American Football-Probably around 30+ on a roster? Baseball-around 16 Soccer-around 20? Not really sure These rosters are split up even more. They have separate teams, called the A team and the B team. The BEST players will play on the A team, the B team not so much. This is for each of those sports. So multiply those rosters by 2, as a matter of fact multiply that by 4 because they have it for two separate age groups. Middle school is comprised of the 6th grade, 7th grade, and 8th grade. High school is comprised of the 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade. So in a middle school there'll usually be 100+ of the school's best athletes playing sports. In America there are 27,000 public high schools. Nearly every single one of those high schools has these sports. And High school is a lot like middle school. The 9th grade has the A/B teams, the 10th-11th grade has something called Junior Varsity, and the BEST players play on Varsity. It sort of filters out the best of the best players. The Middle school teams that played against each other will later on combine with the other Middle school's roster once they reach high school, all these kids will go to the same school and continue to play the same sports. You do the math, we've got a BUNCH of people playing sports, these are our best athletes. Like I said, there isn't another country like America when it comes to sports. Basketball has always been around, you're making stuff up! Basketball has been around for sometime but it didn't really gain that much fame until Michael Jordan came along, this is the most FAMOUS athlete in all of sports. He forever changed the face of basketball in the 80's and made it one of the most popular sports in America. Sports salaries: Basketball players used to play for peanuts compared to today's salaries. Back then Jordan was awed that he was making 2 million per year. 20 years later that is the average salary for an NBA rookie is around a million dollars per year, a million dollars and they haven't played a SINGLE minute of pro ball! Players even sometime get 10 day contracts, these 10 day contracts are literally worth around 80k which is the bare minimum. One guy named Zach Randolph just got his contract extended for 4 years and $71 million dollars! Same thing for the NFL and MLB, salaries are pretty damn high. In the NFL for just being on the practice squad, not even playing, players can earn a minimum of $5,700 per week for just sitting on their asses. I can go on and on but I think I've made my point pretty clear. We Americans are given WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more opportunities than other countries when it comes to sports. Our best athletes playing these sports, understand?

Comments (20)

That was dumb Diggler. I'm starting to think you have a inferiority complex when it comes to americans. No offense but your posts are showing more and more of this. Great post by the TS. It's exactly the reason why. There are much more options and opportunities in America than other countries. Why get punched in the face for money, when I can kick a ball, catch one, or throw one instead and make much more money. :dunno:

14y ago

Dirk_Diggler_UK

Yep there isnt a country like America for sports. Where Fat Yanks play amoungst themselves whilst the rest of the world compete against each other.

14y ago

_Ram_Raid_

You missed a HUGE demographic in boxing history :davil2: rest of the post I agree with you though Apologies my friend. Of course the great Italians!

14y ago

Forza

The main difference is the money and the level of nationalism that is tied up in American sports. The latter is why some American's get tetchy over not dominating, it stings the national pride. Other sports are better invested in and attract the athletic talent? Of course. But what does that mean in a country with the population of 311 million? Lets throw this idea into this ring. They don't have to compete, they can all be a factor. Boxing in the US is bound up with the history of the movement of peoples and their literal fight to belong in a new land. From Irish ,Jewish, Black through to Latino. Each group fighting to be considered legitimate Americans has laced up the gloves and predominated in turn. As each is accepted to a greater or lesser degree so more of each demograph gain access to education at college and university level. There, if they are athletically minded, they gain access to sports that are instutionalised within the college system, like football and basketball. Boxing is largely the sport of the ghetto. The more options available the less chance you are to see that group taking up boxing. First the Irish, then the Jewish, and now Blacks. African Americans have fought long and hard to get where they are now, and I'll be damned if they don't deserve to make money in sport without being punched in the face. At the momont it's the Latinos, and it is their time. . . . . . . They're not known for their height though. You missed a HUGE demographic in boxing history :davil2: rest of the post I agree with you though

14y ago

_Ram_Raid_

14y ago

lest26

Americans always thinking that europe is inferior, its not a country its a collection of countries all with diffrent languages and cultures, how can you say that all the boxers from these countries are rubbish its nonsense like this thread.

14y ago

zcm

yeah in N.Ireland it was a bit over 2 hours minamum we had to do in our school. Then there was after school training if u wanted ye in england u had 2 do 2 hours but if u decided to take PE as a class u did like 5/6 hours a week plus after school classes, its pretty bad tht u r not required 2 do anythink in the usa

14y ago

Mikhnienko

I had to explain how sports relate to our schools here, because it isn't the same anywhere else. They have no idea how we join sports because our country isn't like theirs at all, they know nothing about it. I'll break down the "roster size" real quick for ya. I cant speak for all of Europe, but where i come from, everyone HAD to do sport in school. And it cost.......a pair of boots. is tht true in the usa u r not required to do sports if u dont want 2. In my school (England) u was required to do a minimum of 2 hours a week. yeah in N.Ireland it was a bit over 2 hours minamum we had to do in our school. Then there was after school training if u wanted lmao Sad thing is that this retard really thinks that kids joining sports and playing sports in school is some kind of unique American concept. Same way he thinks that America is the only country that has other sports that 'steal' boxing talent. It speaks to the education system in the US i suppose.

14y ago

Forza

American kids are so spoiled they don't have what it takes to put in the blood sweat and tears in the boxing gym from a young age. Besides even if they did, they have to fight GIANT hungry eastern europeans that have titanium jaws and huge knock out power. The klits are just the beginning, in the amateurs there are eastern europeans that are going to turn into monsters when they are fully grown.

14y ago

gingeralbino

is tht true in the usa u r not required to do sports if u dont want 2. In my school (England) u was required to do a minimum of 2 hours a week. yeah in N.Ireland it was a bit over 2 hours minamum we had to do in our school. Then there was after school training if u wanted

14y ago

zcm

is tht true in the usa u r not required to do sports if u dont want 2. In my school (England) u was required to do a minimum of 2 hours a week.

14y ago

gingeralbino

14y ago

Cutthroat

That is a horrible wall of text you got there mate. I had to explain how sports relate to our schools here, because it isn't the same anywhere else. They have no idea how we join sports because our country isn't like theirs at all, they know nothing about it.

14y ago

Cutthroat

Great, now stop the whine, just because boxing is HUGE in Europe. I mean, watch the World Championships in the amateurs, dominated by Europeans. Boxing is far from dead, just in America. So untill you bring some quality opponents, we'll never know who's better, only who is very jealous of what's going on ;-) No, we can CLEARLY see who's better. We can SEE that body punching in the HW division is almost completely gone, power punching, later movement, the ability to take a punch, endurance, speed etc. Where as I said before a bunch of OOOOOLLLLLD guys are dominating HW boxing, the only two good actual athletes are the Klit. brothers. if it weren't for them Holyfield would probably be HW champ lmao. Same old tired excuses for getting dominated by europeans The NBA and NFL have been around for ages Also a lot of Europe's super athletes go to soccer or rugby instead so that argument is failed. Learn how to read you stupid $hit, I just explained how salaries have increased A LOT over the years and how Jordan changed American basketball forever. Rugby and Soccer? So you're saying nearly EVERY SINGLE child in Europe is afforded those opportunities? Because nearly EVERY SINGLE child in America HAS to go to school and will be given these opportunities without even pursuing it. So many excuses, its like listening to Joshua Clottey after loosing. These aren't excuses, this is an explanation. You people don't even know how the American school system works and how it relates to sports, I just explained it to you. In somewhere like France they don't have basketball in school, instead you must join a club. :poke:.... true and by the way on the initial post he stated that the Biggest most Athletic kids paly Footbal, Basketball, and OMG SOCCER? LMAO. Add Baseball to that and I can agree. Most don't understand that the Klits are superior it's called "Klit power" most of us know the "klit" or "clit" is a powerful thing. The biggest most athletics kids do play those sports, my friend Ash is a 6'8 250lb pitcher on his High school baseball team. I had a friend in 8th grade that was already 6'1 200+ and could already bench over 250lbs lmao, he was massive and stuck to soccer instead of football. My brother tried out boxing but instead stuck to basketball, right now he's 6'5 220lbs and is 14 years old. I've been to a lot of my brother's middle school basketball games, you'll find a BUNCH of kids that aren't even 14 but can jump and touch a 10 foot rim as well as dunk it. And these are MEXICAN kids that I'm talking about as well, our people are generally small but we've got some big mofos playing sports. The bottom line is that our athletes are actually doing something, at once we've got HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of kids in just high school playing sports for free. How many kids in your country are actually playing sports? Go ahead and break down the roster size like I did.

14y ago

FJRod

America is a continent. End of the story. :poke:.... true and by the way on the initial post he stated that the Biggest most Athletic kids paly Footbal, Basketball, and OMG SOCCER? LMAO. Add Baseball to that and I can agree. Most don't understand that the Klits are superior it's called "Klit power" most of us know the "klit" or "clit" is a powerful thing.

14y ago

eul

America is a continent. End of the story.

14y ago

yuppie

So many excuses, its like listening to Joshua Clottey after loosing.

14y ago

Superflo777

Apparently it has. The United States has the highest obesity rates in the developed world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_obesity#United_States

14y ago

New_England

If the American school sports system is so great, how do you explain that the US has the highest obesity rates in the entire world? Just asking. it doesnt. lots of americans (especially certain states) are fat, but there are fatter countries. and american colleges are where you'll find concentrations of some of the fittest people on the planet. hot little numbers walking all over the place with big tits. the fat ones stay indoors, if they even exist. and yes, it is that great (compared to the talent pool in america in the HW division,) and generally caters to athletes who are almost exclusively HW the biggest college sports in the states are basketball and football. guys get full rides (meaning everything the entirety of the education is paid for) to damn good schools. and they are almost all HW, or would be if they boxed into their late 20's sure, there are a few european football players who would be bonafide HW, but there are not many the size of the men in the NFL and NBA is the key factor nba players average 6'9" ! and in the nfl they average over 250 lbs ! thats the argument and it holds water.

14y ago

Sage84

cuz we rich? Watch the news......you're not.

14y ago