"The [Margarito] insert was about the size of a business card. And about as stiff."

You actually believe what the **** you just posted?:crackhead Ok then substitute the "lotion" for plaster if that makes you happy and add sweat to it instead of water. And see how that goes since they are made out of the same "chemicals". Either way he cheated and should have been banned for life.

They would because ALL along Margarito has claimed he DID NOT KNOW and Capetillo TOOK ALL THE BLAME. So... with NO real proof that Margarito was in on it... he got off light with a year off. Wow, in believing that I think its safe to say your a ****in tard

This sounds like bull**** to me. Just saying

We need to talk about the Ephedra Margarito likes to drink for that 12 round energy... Liquid crack. And I don't for a minute think Margarito was suspended and his trainer BANNED for life for having a business card in his gloves.. The photo post fight shows a HARD object RIPPING through Margarito's wrap. Cut the BS son... YOU are full of shet in this thread. Ephedra? in front of the commissioners right? be real that **** was sweetener for the two cups of coffee he drank. And I dont think Texas and now NY would have given him a license to fight if those findings were indeed plaster paris, especially NY keep in mind Collins Resto

Even if it was "lotion" as Margarito's defenders claim, it is still illegal. The lotion would make the pad weight more and as a consequence making it feel harder. Get some tissue paper and put lotion and water over it and you will see how hard it gets. Add to it that it was "inserted" into his wraps and you would be dumb if you say he wasn't cheating. The punch would carry more weight doing more damage. You actually believe what the **** you just posted?:crackhead

Even if it was "lotion" as Margarito's defenders claim, it is still illegal. The lotion would make the pad weight more and as a consequence making it feel harder. Get some tissue paper and put lotion and water over it and you will see how hard it gets. Add to it that it was "inserted" into his wraps and you would be dumb if you say he wasn't cheating. The punch would carry more weight doing more damage.

Here is where it just gets funky with so many of you, in order for plaster paris to harden up you have to allow it to cure, meaning it has to dry, and answer this how the **** do you mix oxygen? it was not plaster paris, they found common elements that are found in lotions and also found in baking soda. Lets make this simple oxygen, also found in water (thats the O part) is a catalyst, it wasnt found because it evaporates. what more do you need besides all the testimony and actual people that witnessed the actual events? truth is for some reason there are a handful of people like you on here who simply refuse to accept reality. Pathetic dude, the outcome of the Cotto fight will not change these events and the past suspicions.

if you can read PrKing718 here is a PDF link http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/about_us/meetings/20090210_minutes.pdf

LMAOOOOO look at all these ******* in here pulling shades over their eyes. Dude, his trainer was banned for life. DA was never involved, get proof, period, Posted a few weeks back huh? Dejame verlo payaso. So here we go, I just beat Cotto fair and square then I go cheat with something that got my trainer banned for life, not old gauze because that is impossible, to fight the guy who lost to the guy I just destroyed fair and square. Then, I fight and have no pop in my punches. Here, my supporters say I lost to Mosley bc of the mental disadvantage of being caught with old gauze and Cotto supporters, and those people of honest objectivity, bring up the point that having a plaster of paris "like" substance, not exactly plaster of paris, gave me a mental advantage. So who is right? Let's find out on Dec. 3rd. Being that the fight was nearly three years ago this is what I could find at the moment I live in Los angeles this **** was on the news like crazy while you live in the bronx and probably didnt even follow the case.... all the other **** is either removed or buried but here is a quote and a link The California department of Justice was involved whats that tell you? "Outside of appeals and possible criminal charges from the embarrassed CSAC" http://www.badlefthook.com/event/WJFkMqB8

LMAOOOOO look at all these ******* in here pulling shades over their eyes. Dude, his trainer was banned for life. DA was never involved, get proof, period, Posted a few weeks back huh? Dejame verlo payaso. So here we go, I just beat Cotto fair and square then I go cheat with something that got my trainer banned for life, not old gauze because that is impossible, to fight the guy who lost to the guy I just destroyed fair and square. Then, I fight and have no pop in my punches. Here, my supporters say I lost to Mosley bc of the mental disadvantage of being caught with old gauze and Cotto supporters, and those people of honest objectivity, bring up the point that having a plaster of paris "like" substance, not exactly plaster of paris, gave me a mental advantage. So who is right? Let's find out on Dec. 3rd. They banned his trainer, why not Margarito who can apply for his license here and who has been given a license in NY and Texas. Do us a favor, stop being a Bitterican Dec 3rd has nothing to do with the beat down Cotto got in fight 1, it has nothing to do with the fact that he quit

LMAOOOOO look at all these ******* in here pulling shades over their eyes. Dude, his trainer was banned for life. DA was never involved, get proof, period, Posted a few weeks back huh? Dejame verlo payaso. So here we go, I just beat Cotto fair and square then I go cheat with something that got my trainer banned for life, not old gauze because that is impossible, to fight the guy who lost to the guy I just destroyed fair and square. Then, I fight and have no pop in my punches. Here, my supporters say I lost to Mosley bc of the mental disadvantage of being caught with old gauze and Cotto supporters, and those people of honest objectivity, bring up the point that having a plaster of paris "like" substance, not exactly plaster of paris, gave me a mental advantage. So who is right? Let's find out on Dec. 3rd. omg the boxing commision banned him for life they must be right! boxing commisions are the most corrupt organizations around. you shouldn't believe them just because they say something. their evidence was a cardboard like insert with sulfur residue on it? where were the actual brick like handwraps? they should have those right but i never saw them. they trumped up a trivial thing and made it into something it was not. i wouldn't be surprised if golden boy setup this whole farce. they've made it clear they want to take over boxing and look how they tried to destroy the reputation of top ranks biggest fighters margarito/pac. they probably thought mosley would lose to margarito and wanted him out of the picture so they started screaming plaster and hbo being their mouthpiece shouted plaster along with them.

LMAOOOOO look at all these ******* in here pulling shades over their eyes. Dude, his trainer was banned for life. DA was never involved, get proof, period, Posted a few weeks back huh? Dejame verlo payaso. So here we go, I just beat Cotto fair and square then I go cheat with something that got my trainer banned for life, not old gauze because that is impossible, to fight the guy who lost to the guy I just destroyed fair and square. Then, I fight and have no pop in my punches. Here, my supporters say I lost to Mosley bc of the mental disadvantage of being caught with old gauze and Cotto supporters, and those people of honest objectivity, bring up the point that having a plaster of paris "like" substance, not exactly plaster of paris, gave me a mental advantage. So who is right? Let's find out on Dec. 3rd.

Bro I've been saying the same thing, especially for the bold part. They go back to their pathetic weak attacks. its because its a hate thing, Margarito publicly punked Mayweather and thats whats going to happen in regards to the Floyalist. if Cotto should win they will then argue that as proof that Tony used plaster in that fight its ridiculous. but again some sit here and argue and trash talk the man and havent even followed the damn case themselves. most dont even understand what plaster paris is, and what you need to do to mix that and make it rock like. they just repeat what they read, and its bull****. you can google it, in fact they use that **** to track Sasquatch well for the footprints, and you have to let that **** dry you cant just mix it up in the dressing room put it in the wraps and expect it to dry that quickly, 1st you have to sneak it in the wraps while the commission is there, then you have to allow it time to dry they are saying there were trace elements found which is true but trace elements of calcium, not trace elements of plaster paris. now how is it going to dry when your gloved up and ready to go? your hands are constantly sweating while in the gloves so how does it even get a chance to dry and set?

i always believed this was a farce perpetrated by golden boy against top rank. yes he had something in his wraps but it wasn't plaster and deserved no more than a slap on the wrist since you can't really hurt someone with cardboard. I have no idea how many people even making comments in this thread actually followed the entire story from front to back. But I will say this at first I was furious with the idea that Tony would do that, and was glad to see Mosley starch him as a result. However the evidence and lab findings was good enough for me, I mean when the DA stated in the early going that they would seek a criminal case should the findings in the lab confirm it was plaster paris, the lab couldnt nail it down to plaster. What they did find in the lab were trace elements, and you need alot more than just trace elements to make a brick or a cast. you notice the pad is pre used, Margaritos trainer said he had used pre used pads, so my guess is they were firm and stiff because it was gauze that had dried out sweat in them much the way a kitchen sponge dries out after you use it. The rules call for clean fresh gauze so he did violate the rules, the dye thats found on the confiscated wrap is Dye from the inside of the gloves, if you look at most fighters after a fight you will every now and then notice that they do have a red spot from the glove on their knuckle area. The cotto fight so many people point back to, when in reality Nevada supplies all the gauze and tape and they did clear him of any wrong doing in that fight, but its funny how people argue the state of Miguels swelling for Margarito and claim Tony loaded his gloves when Manny made Miguel look much worse than that. lets be real Margarito has been hated on by the Floyalist, The Cotto fans hate on him because he took Miguels 0 and made him quit he isnt going to get any fair treatment from nobody in the boxing world simply because he was never one of the "Popular mainstream" fighters such as Cotto or Mayweather and I bet if it were either one of those guys in this situation they would be saying the same **** we are. Some people like to say well Mosley beat him and thats proof, how so? when you go through something like that in the dressing room before the fight its going to have a mental effect on you going in, But also if you did follow this the following friday on ESPNs FNFs it was reported that Margarito came into camp at 180 with six weeks to train for that fight.... i dont expect anybody to agree with what I am saying, but this is and has been all reported, he killed himself to make the weight for that fight, plaster or no plaster he was not going to win that night

Tony destroyed Cotto righteously, no skulduggery involved

i always believed this was a farce perpetrated by golden boy against top rank. yes he had something in his wraps but it wasn't plaster and deserved no more than a slap on the wrist since you can't really hurt someone with cardboard.

So Cotto got beat fair and square by Margarito. And Mosley beat the Margarito coming off that Cotto win. All dark clouds over the Mosley vs Margarito vs Cotto fights is now cleared. Well almost all, I still don't get how Mosley vs Cotto was not a Draw. But Margarito is a clean fighter if this is true. Let's move on.

So... Margarito got suspended for having his landscaper business card in his glove?? Man that is wrong... He was suspended for not using fresh gauze here is a picture of the Block that fell out.... looks like gauze to me http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/02/antonio-margari.html

So it was just a old peice of gauze the size of a business card? You can't even begin to compare that to what resto and lewis did.

DA= District Attorney? Were they even involved? My understanding is that the Commission was the only one involved in the investigation. Please post a link that stated that the DA was involved. do your own homework if you want to challenge my statement I have already posted it here a few weeks back, its true the DA was looking to go after both Tony and his trainer and decided not to once the results came back... you also need to research how to make plaster paris, its not as easy as mixing it up and putting it in the wrap that **** has to dry and it takes hours.... Nazim Richardson On The Day He Busted Margarito, according to him when they opened the wrap that was already done a block fell down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvQcHouzQE Funny how that Block never made it to the lab