I actually agree with Mora's decision 100%

*I respect for a lot of b-hop fans on this board like Streetbully, Secondzout, Walt Liquor, Cup, Ex, Phantom etc** With that said, Bernard showed no indication that he wanted to continue. I watched that part over and over and Hopkins can lie all he want, but Pat asked him if he is OK and does he want to fight and Bernard did was give the indication that he had no interest in continuing. Just like when the Doctors acts Devon Alexander if he wants to continue and by him constantly complaining that he "can't see", "It burns", and other whining tactics....the ref had no choice but to stop it. Nate Campbell did the same thing. So did Judah with his rolling on the ground when he fought Khan.....I mean there are countless examples of guys no saying they quit, but with their over exaggeration and loaded language, they give the ref every indication that they don't want to continue. And FWIW it's wasn't a foul. Hopkins jump on Dawson and what was Chad suppose to do.

Comments (20)

EasyE

Anyone have a video of this?

14y ago

Khalid_X

He had every right to stop it, but it should've been a NC, which you agree will be overturned. And you just indicated that you don't think he faked it. So what's the problem or disagreement again? I have no beef with Bernard...other than me losing my money. This thread is to those who are dogging Pat Russell. There are a million "fvkk b-hop", "b-hop was faking it" etc threads....but this isn't one of them. I don't see why people are blaming Pat when he had every right to do what he did.

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

sure buddy Do I really need to post the videos for you to see? They've been posted all day.

14y ago

rburgundy

Post the whole fight if you like. Hopkins ran into Chad, leaned over Chads body when Chad crouched, in effect, causing Hopkins legs to go past Chads arm. Chad stood up, as is his right, and Hopkins fell backwards. You can make paintings, airbrushed or water based, but it won't change the fact that it was Bernard who initiated the entire fiasco. It won't change the fact that Bernard has done this same exact thing for his entire career. sure buddy

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

so i guess max kellerman,,harold lederman,jim lampley and emmanuel steward are delusional as well lol.1 millisecond?you said his arm was never around his legs.would you like an animated gif because i can do to those also? Post the whole fight if you like. Hopkins ran into Chad, leaned over Chads body when Chad crouched, in effect, causing Hopkins legs to go past Chads arm. Chad stood up, as is his right, and Hopkins fell backwards. You can make paintings, airbrushed or water based, but it won't change the fact that it was Bernard who initiated the entire fiasco. It won't change the fact that Bernard has done this same exact thing for his entire career.

14y ago

rburgundy

You're taking one millisecond of action and saying that because Bernard ran into Chad, and Chads arm is next to Bernards leg, that Chad is picking him up by his legs? lol. Clearly you're delusional. Bernard hopped on the guys back and Chad is just supposed to wait until Bernard is good and ready to get off? **** outta here. Btw, commentators say lots of things that are wrong. Chad crouched down, is he not supposed to stand back up? so i guess max kellerman,,harold lederman,jim lampley and emmanuel steward are delusional as well lol.1 millisecond?you said his arm was never around his legs.would you like an animated gif because i can do to those also?

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

so all commentators are wrong when they say hopkins was picked up? http://i52.tinypic.com/alkxh4.jpg dawson arm isnt clearly wrapped around bernards legs as he is lifting??? its 1 thing not to like bernard,but its no sense whatsover in letting that skew the truth You're taking one millisecond of action and saying that because Bernard ran into Chad, and Chads arm is next to Bernards leg, that Chad is picking him up by his legs? lol. Clearly you're delusional. Bernard hopped on the guys back and Chad is just supposed to wait until Bernard is good and ready to get off? **** outta here. Btw, commentators say lots of things that are wrong. Chad crouched down, is he not supposed to stand back up?

14y ago

rburgundy

Irrelevant if he did or not. But no, he didn't wrap his arms around Bernards legs. so all commentators are wrong when they say hopkins was picked up? http://i52.tinypic.com/alkxh4.jpg dawson arm isnt clearly wrapped around bernards legs as he is lifting??? its 1 thing not to like bernard,but its no sense whatsover in letting that skew the truth

14y ago

x3_bazooka_x3

Russel Mora wasn't the Ref it was Pat Russell but I agree with what you're saying. Hopkins should have got up if he wanted to fight. Yup, and you can call Dawsons act a foul, but it was a foul by hopkins that lead to the foul by dawson, Hopkins shouldnt have been leaning on him. if a fighter gets hit low and can not continue after a 5 min rest period its a TKO loss, if the ref did not see the foul he can not call it, However the shoulder injury should not have in any way prevented Hopkins from getting up, he wasnt hurt to the head, didnt hurt his ankles or legs... just his shoulder and he choose to stay down... meaning he quit.

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

did dawson or did dawson not,wrap his arm around bernards legs? Irrelevant if he did or not. But no, he didn't wrap his arms around Bernards legs.

14y ago

rburgundy

Commentators say alot of things. You can post the whole fight if you like. The fact remains, Hopkins did his normal Hopkins routine and turned the fight ugly, only this time, his opponent returned the "craftiness". And no, he didn't "slam him down". He got someone who jumped on his back, off. If Hopkins didn't want to get shoved off, he shouldn't be resorting to tactics like jumping on peoples backs. We have an entire career of Bernard Hopkins pullling these stunts time and time again. From the blatant cheating to the acting jobs. It backfired on him for once. did dawson or did dawson not,wrap his arm around bernards legs?

14y ago

Shogunofharlem1

Not like that. Im not a fan of winning the belt like that. A rematch should have been on Chads mind to break his ass in. Not to take the belt and run.

14y ago

Hougigo

hopkins did say "can i fight with one arm?" except he said it like he was giving out when he was asked if he was ok He said "with one arm" I don't think he ever said I can fight with one arm, he just answered the ref by saying "with one arm" when asked if he could continue.

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlSucRezNSU so the commentators are wrong when they say "dawson just tackled hopkins.dawson picked hopkins up and slammed him down" at 1:23 you can clearly see dawson putting his arm arounds hopkins leg then lifting up.would you like a screen shot of this? Commentators say alot of things. You can post the whole fight if you like. The fact remains, Hopkins did his normal Hopkins routine and turned the fight ugly, only this time, his opponent returned the "craftiness". And no, he didn't "slam him down". He got someone who jumped on his back, off. If Hopkins didn't want to get shoved off, he shouldn't be resorting to tactics like jumping on peoples backs. We have an entire career of Bernard Hopkins pullling these stunts time and time again. From the blatant cheating to the acting jobs. It backfired on him for once.

14y ago

rburgundy

Pushing someone up off your back, isn't shoving him to the ground. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlSucRezNSU so the commentators are wrong when they say "dawson just tackled hopkins.dawson picked hopkins up and slammed him down" at 1:23 you can clearly see dawson putting his arm arounds hopkins leg then lifting up.would you like a screen shot of this?

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

he came in and chad ducked all the way down.he didnt throw himself up there Oh please, Hopkins has a history of doing these things. Hitting and holding, hitting and grabbing, hitting and pushing down. Hopkins purposefully threw himself on Chad, that much is clear. Its a part of his so called, "craftiness".

14y ago

rburgundy

Did you miss where Hopkins threw himself on Chads back for no reason at all? he came in and chad ducked all the way down.he didnt throw himself up there

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

he clearly grabs his leg from behind while he's bent down then pushes up Pushing someone up off your back, isn't shoving him to the ground.

14y ago

Kev

yes there are two motions in pushing (picking if you will) someone up and then dropping them to the ground. Or are you saying you can't shove someone when their feet is elevated from the ground? But first you said he picked him up and shoved him to the ground. Now you say he shoved him up and dropped him. Dawson did none of this. He simply forced Brando away from him with a shove, and Marlon Brando did the rest.

14y ago

Vasyls_dad

did you miss where dawson grabs his leg? Did you miss where Hopkins threw himself on Chads back for no reason at all?

14y ago